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I wasn’t saying that they would or should; only that they haven’t. As a result, and as per always, we run amok with our own wishes, needs, and predictions.
Yea, go read some of the last 4 years of dribble in this site. It's quite funny listening to the definitive statements that never happened.

That's why I didn't join the site until recently. I just didn't feel like reading so much fantasy.
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Yeah, it never made much sense to me.

I could be wrong, but I suspect it's just a placeholder for battery improvements in the pipeline. When Tesla has a battery that has an EPA range over 420 or 450 miles, I bet they say the extender no longer makes sense.
Yea, keep dreaming. There's a new battery solution developed every day. I've seen 1,000 km batteries and charge to 80% in 5 minutes. 90% chance that it's the last we'll ever hear from the company. 9% chance that it can't be manufactured , 0.99% chance that it won't make it into quantity production and 0.01% chance that we'll see it in 10 years.
And notice that the price is already flattening out.
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Feel free to sit back and wait.

There's a LOT higher probability that people start understanding hoe EVs actually work and realize that the range extender isn't needed for the vast majority of situations.
 

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Is the 14-50 in the bed allowed to charge the truck?
 

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Is the 14-50 in the bed allowed to charge the truck?
It's a "power goes out of" socket not capable of two-way power transfer.

Putting power on a NEMA 14-50 plug is against code and deadly.
 

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Yeah, it never made much sense to me.

I could be wrong, but I suspect it's just a placeholder for battery improvements in the pipeline. When Tesla has a battery that has an EPA range over 420 or 450 miles, I bet they say the extender no longer makes sense.
We can be certain that Tesla is working to improve battery performance in every possible dimension, but they have been known to improve performance and reduce the pack size rather than to increase range per se, so who knows. If they did, it certainly would be moot to have a range extender, but that wouldn't help any of the people that have ordered/received Cybertrucks up to that point.
 


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Yea, go read some of the last 4 years of dribble in this site. It's quite funny listening to the definitive statements that never happened.

That's why I didn't join the site until recently. I just didn't feel like reading so much fantasy.
I am guilty of some of that drivel.
 

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Yea, keep dreaming. There's a new battery solution developed every day. I've seen 1,000 km batteries and charge to 80% in 5 minutes. 90% chance that it's the last we'll ever hear from the company. 9% chance that it can't be manufactured , 0.99% chance that it won't make it into quantity production and 0.01% chance that we'll see it in 10 years.
And notice that the price is already flattening out.
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Feel free to sit back and wait.

There's a LOT higher probability that people start understanding hoe EVs actually work and realize that the range extender isn't needed for the vast majority of situations.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I'm not talking about a big battery breakthrough that would have 1000 km of range and charge in 5 minutes. Where did you get that? Sometimes I think you should spend more time reading and less time typing.

I'm talking about the natural, incremental energy density improvements in the 4680-form factor that Tesla disclosed was on their 6-year battery plan back in 2020. An 18% improvement in energy density of the current packs gets them over 400 miles of EPA range. Somewhere between there and 450 miles of EPA range they could claim the battery extender no longer makes sense.

My take is that Tesla was never very serious about the range extender, they just threw it out there as something that they could do. Time will tell.

Also, I never said that most people need it. But there is little doubt that it would increase the utility for people who tow and also to people who want to camp in remote places. And plenty of people think they need it.

I'm not saying anything controversial or that isn't supported by the evidence.
 

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My question is… where are the “hookups” for the range extender? Is it where the extra storage space is, near the back of the bed, underneath that? I don’t see where they’re going to hook up the extender. Can someone who already has a Cybertruck see any place where it’s possible? Just curious, thanks.
 

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Interesting idea. Unfortunately it looks at this time that it will be installed at the service center. Also it weighs about 500-600 lbs, and would likely have coolant connections.
I would also worry about the high voltage connections too. Not something a DYI er would casually attempt.
 

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My question is… where are the “hookups” for the range extender? Is it where the extra storage space is, near the back of the bed, underneath that? I don’t see where they’re going to hook up the extender. Can someone who already has a Cybertruck see any place where it’s possible? Just curious, thanks.
It will (if it ever comes) hook up above the inverter in the service port above the rear motor. It will not be something people install at home. Imagine the insane liability involved.
 


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Yea, keep dreaming. There's a new battery solution developed every day. I've seen 1,000 km batteries and charge to 80% in 5 minutes. 90% chance that it's the last we'll ever hear from the company. 9% chance that it can't be manufactured , 0.99% chance that it won't make it into quantity production and 0.01% chance that we'll see it in 10 years.
And notice that the price is already flattening out.
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Feel free to sit back and wait.

There's a LOT higher probability that people start understanding hoe EVs actually work and realize that the range extender isn't needed for the vast majority of situations.
I don’t think @HaulingAss eas suggesting that people wait to buy, only that, in the timeframe Tesla said the range extender will be available, they may very well make a 10%-20% improvement in range just from efforts that have already been reported.
 

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Battery density and software improvements will see a greater range out of the same space.

In addition, every day, more and faster chargers throughout the country, and more pull-throughs.

Whilst there will always be a use case, all these combined lessen the odds of needing to spend $16,000 bloody dollars on a range extender.
 

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I would also worry about the high voltage connections too. Not something a DYI er would casually attempt.
if they had made a plug it could totally be something a owner could do, but since it nesds parts to be removed and replaced with different parts and who knows what kinds of modification and the 600 pound weight its not DIY friendly thats for sure, but they COULD of made it that way if they wanted to and it wasnt a last minute thought.
 

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if they had made a plug it could totally be something a owner could do, but since it nesds parts to be removed and replaced with different parts and who knows what kinds of modification and the 600 pound weight its not DIY friendly thats for sure, but they COULD of made it that way if they wanted to and it wasnt a last minute thought.
Even if they made a special plug, only certified techs with special HV gear are allowed to even touch the HV lines. Another cut-off switch plus coolant and sensing electronics connections would have to be made and installed and make things even more complicated. More connections means more points of possible failure. I don’t believe they even made all the necessary extra connections in the CT for this Range Extender, otherwise we would see access ports, anchoring points, etc in the bed, so it’s going to be a major undertaking. The way I see it due to high voltages, liability/warranty issues this Range Extender feature can only be removed/installed by a Service Center.
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