Let's all let Tesla know we want option to set FSD max speed on the scroll wheel made available.

[Kamin]

Using the new FSD14 I appreciate that the sloth mode will stick to the speed limit. The problem is that what FSD thinks the speed limit is does not match reality. On my country road in the neigborhood the speed limit is 35 mph and 15 in school zones when flashing. My Cybertruck thinks the speed limit is 55 mph so my only option now is to disengage FSD. Traveling through school zones I want the truck to keep up with only going 15 mph while I watch the road closely. Without FSD maintaining the speed where I set it to 15 max, I have to take my focus off the road to constantly check that I haven't crept up over 15. Sloth mode very quickly decides to hit it up to 55 mph in that school zone. I cannot think of a time I will want to change modes on the fly from sloth, to chill or higher. I set it at one mode and leave it there for most all driving. Give us an option to change the function of the scroll wheel back to max speed or to choose modes.

I'm not sure who thought sloth was less aggressive than chill but it is way more agressive than the old chill mode. My wife would freak out sometimes on what the truck would do on chill before. I am not looking forward to what she will think even using sloth mode now. Fantom breaking is also back in situations where I have the right of way and the truck sees a vehicle waiting on me to go and mid intersection it decides slamming on breaks is called for. It has been about 6 months or more since FSD was doing that but seems to be a feature of sloth mode.

For those who think the cutoff for being pulled over for speeding is 8-9 mph over don't take into account that depending on an officer's bias with Tesla, a Cybertruck can elicit a response different than other more generic vehicles get to slide by with.

A positive note on the new FSD is that in the dark the only way I could keep FSD from telling me to watch the road was to remove my glasses. Now it works fine with my glasses on in the dark.

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[SlegMD]

Dear Tesla- If I tell the CT not to merge by canceling with turn signals, please do not have the truck attempt again 3 seconds later. Please reroute or wait for further prompts. Fighting FSD is not fun.

 

[jimbobb23]

Dear Tesla- If I tell the CT not to merge by canceling with turn signals, please do not have the truck attempt again 3 seconds later. Please reroute or wait for further prompts. Fighting FSD is not fun.

I would love a "stay in this lane for the next mile" button. Run into this all the time when I know the flow of the traffic and the lane changes it wants to make are all slower/pointless.

I am the only person with a Tesla who doesnt want speed options back. I think the profiles are the right path. But I am painfully aware that is a minority position. I have never had sloth go more than 1-2 miles over the limit. I use in neighborhoods and other places to be extra safe.

 

[georgek43]

Using the new FSD14 I appreciate that the sloth mode will stick to the speed limit. The problem is that what FSD thinks the speed limit is does not match reality. On my country road in the neigborhood the speed limit is 35 mph and 15 in school zones when flashing. My Cybertruck thinks the speed limit is 55 mph so my only option now is to disengage FSD. Traveling through school zones I want the truck to keep up with only going 15 mph while I watch the road closely. Without FSD maintaining the speed where I set it to 15 max, I have to take my focus off the road to constantly check that I haven't crept up over 15. Sloth mode very quickly decides to hit it up to 55 mph in that school zone. I cannot think of a time I will want to change modes on the fly from sloth, to chill or higher. I set it at one mode and leave it there for most all driving. Give us an option to change the function of the scroll wheel back to max speed or to choose modes.

I'm not sure who thought sloth was less aggressive than chill but it is way more agressive than the old chill mode. My wife would freak out sometimes on what the truck would do on chill before. I am not looking forward to what she will think even using sloth mode now. Fantom breaking is also back in situations where I have the right of way and the truck sees a vehicle waiting on me to go and mid intersection it decides slamming on breaks is called for. It has been about 6 months or more since FSD was doing that but seems to be a feature of sloth mode.

For those who think the cutoff for being pulled over for speeding is 8-9 mph over don't take into account that depending on an officer's bias with Tesla, a Cybertruck can elicit a response different than other more generic vehicles get to slide by with.

A positive note on the new FSD is that in the dark the only way I could keep FSD from telling me to watch the road was to remove my glasses. Now it works fine with my glasses on in the dark.

I also hear all the hype about how the autonomous speed selection is better- but it’s definitely not. It might be OK if the speed limit data in navigation were correct- but it’s not. I was using FSD almost 100% of the time- I can no longer do that in good conscience- the vehicle drives dangerously, going way too fast even in sloth mode (what a stupid name btw for a mode that drives full speed limit)



‘’sloth“ is supposed to go the speed limit- it does, ‘from a certain point of view’ as Obi Wan said- but it goes what the navigation system thinks the limit is, not the posted real speed limits. Sometimes it appears the system will read a speed limit sign, but not often. Certainly not often enough.



I’ve asked Tesla to revert my CT to FSD13- they will not. They keep telling me FSD14 is better- it is not. I have taken lots of local trips, and 200+ mile trips on highways and interstates- I do not see a significant improvement in driving behavior over FSD13. On local streets I’m disengaging FSD14 dozens of times during each drive. and it has reverted to rapidly decelerating for vehicles at perpendicular roads as described for no good reason, but still ignores emergency vehicles. On the highway it requires far far more driver intervention on the scroll wheel to keep anywhere close to a legal or even safe speed, and often requires disengaging. Click up, click down over and over and over to toggle between modes to attempt a safe speed. On the interstates, instead of relaxing at a set speed, one must constantly monitor the car speed creeping up into ‘moving violation; territory while keeping a sharp eye out for the State Troopers to avoid a speeding ticket. How is that an improvement?



And even by toggling the drive mode, the control is imprecise, with the vehicle speed oscillating from too fast to too slow instead of a steady set speed. It’s really aggravating. A couple weeks ago my drives, whether neighborhood streets or interstates were almost stress free. I love my CT, was one of Tesla’s biggest supporters and best salesmen. That has all changed with this one removal of allowing the driver to set maximum speed. It’s really upsetting to lose a cherished part of my day. I’m looking for a workaround that does not involve trading the vehicle.



As it is now, FSD14 is dangerous, drives illegally fast and instead of increasing FSD use, it’s going to decrease it. I can no longer use FSD on 90% of my local drives because it speeds way over the limit due to incorrect speed limit data. The autonomous drive is doing what it’s supposed to do, but it’s operating on bad speed data, and the developers have taken away the ability for the driver- who is legally responsible for the vehicle- to correct the critical error of incorrect speed data. It might be doing things better behind the scenes, but in reality it goes too fast in many settings.



I don’t care that much about E2E- I can pull into my garage myself and enter and exit parking lots myself. Before FSD14 I might have used FSD in a parking lot or driveway a few times, but I could at least have set the vehicle to drive at a safe slow speed. Not anymore- it tries to do 45 in most parking lots before I frantically hit the brake.



oh, and now the car tries to stop and flashes ‘stop’ just as I begin to pull into my garage, thinking incorrectly that there is an obstacle. Never did that before.



FSD14 has only been out a short time, but I don’t think the decision to prevent the driver from setting maximum speed is going to age well. I don’t like it all. I’m hoping for an update that corrects this decision. Maybe an option to “manually set max speed” like ManMax in addition to MadMax.



Tesla sales are hurting. My primary reason to own a Tesla is the ability for the vehicle to self drive in neighborhoods and local drives, which most manufacturers do not offer. It seems Tesla has effectively withdrawn that ability from their cars and trucks. I do not think this decision is going to help sell Teslas. I hope the devs come to their senses and it’s a temporary decision.

I messaged Tesla service about these issues and was told to take it up with the Tesla Customer Support line at 877-798-3752. After an infuriating loop conversation with their bot, I was finally put in a queue to speak to a human. One hour and six minutes of horrid ‘on hold’ music later I hung up, never speaking to any one. When I messaged service again, here’s the response I got: ‘“Greetings. We regret to inform you that unfortunately this is the only source of information we have at this time…thank you for your understanding..” Actually, after paying six figures for a ‘self driving’ vehicle that’s now too dangerous to allow it to self drive, I do not understand this kind of customer service at all.

 

[Gaximus]

I also don’t like not being able to control speed. In my neighborhood I like to drive 15. Speed limit is 25. But way too fast for the amount of kids playing in the street (my CT brings all the kids to the yard, that’s right, it’s better than yours). But I also live MadMax, not the speed but the decisiveness, it actually reflects my turn signal on the highway, turn it in and it changes lane. In that not, who is taking FSD to drive in the middle or left lane when there is no one in the right lane!?!?

Anyway my point being, attitude and speed should not be rolled into one profile. I could be in sloth, ok with going 40 over, as long as it stays in its lane, or in MadMax and go 5 under.

 

[Edphonse]

I also cannot use FSD 14 on a regular basis anymore due to the max speed limit issue. Routinely it thinks the speed limit is 10-30 mph higher than it actually is on over half of my commuting route, none of which is freeway driving so those speeds would easily be put into reckless driving territory. It steers a lot better than fsd 13 but I could use fsd 13 everywhere and just nudge the steering wheel to correct its lane placement. I am not sure why they didn't just make the profile adjust the left and right click on the wheel and leave the wheel to setting max speed.

 

[devdrone6]

The more I drive on 14, the more it annoys me regarding speed. I keep switching between the modes to not end up with a ticket. There are lots of improvements but the lack of speed control and the random indecision points when it hesitates are big issues. 13 never did this hesitation, and seemingly random sometimes.

 

[devdrone6]

I realize we are just generating articles for the anti tesla journalists (all of them pretty much) but we need to vent.

 

[pricedm]

I'm mostly using "Chill", but wish set speed on a 55 mph interstate was 58, not 57, and wish set speed on a 65 mph interstate was 68, not 67.

When speed limit signs are ignored, like speed limit changing from 35 to 45 mph, but FSD only recognizes the outdated 35, I use Standard to get up to speed.

Exceeding 9 mph over posted highway speeds is a recipe for a speeding ticket in Colorado. WTF is with Standard going 69 in a 55 mph interstate; that's nuts.

Everything else is a big improvement over FSD 13.x

 

[Edphonse]

I realize we are just generating articles for the anti tesla journalists (all of them pretty much) but we need to vent.

Sometimes you need the loudness of the negativity to have real issues fixed. It makes it far worse to stick your head in the sand and pretend like everything is perfect, because, in reality, nothing is perfect since everything is designed by people which are inherently imperfect.

Assessments and critiques are the only way to make the product better.

There will always be the FUD believers, 100 years ago or so those same type of people were saying things like "it will take a million years for people to fly" (which the Wright Brothers took personally) or "why would I buy a car? My horse doesnt need to change it's tires every 500 miles, can run faster, and is fueled on grass."

 

[PungoteagueDave]

Tesla does have a lot of work to do here. In Virginia we have thousand sof sign saying “End 35 MPH Limit” or “End 45 MPH Limit”. FSD cannot understand these signs, which mean “Resume normal maximum speed”, which in Virginia is 55 MPH on rural roads. These signs are found at the town limits when exiting most any small or medium sized town in the state. Yet FSD reads the signs as meaning “45” or “35”, instead of “Resume 55”. There is no workaround solution.

I agree that we need to be able to set a “cap” on speed based on the driver’s observation of local conditions, policing and his/her propensity for risk - not necessarily acceding all of this to the machine. For now, these things are not at the point that we can allow them to be HAL - making all decisions about which bay door to open.

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[Coolhandz]

I'm glad they got rid of the scroll speed settings. One less thing for me to worry about.

There are a few county roads I take to work and they don't have signs. Old fsd I'd have to scroll up to 55 and then nudge it because it thinks those roads are 35. Now, I just keep it in Mad Max and it cruises along at 62.

Things change, especially fsd. It'll continue to get better.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

I'm glad they got rid of the scroll speed settings. One less thing for me to worry about.

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Until you get pulled over for 15 over. My sense is that Tesla’s willingness to drive 20 over under the car’s control, eliminating a speed-specific over-ride (which the driving-style substitution is not) is the company ASKING for a nanny-state regulatory solution, is therefore irresponsible.

While we are in pure Supervised FSD mode, we are either supervising or we’re not - cannot have it both ways, regardless of fanboi rationalization supporting every change, even the ones marked in the version notes as needing improvement in further updates.

 

[STx Cybertruck]

On a 100 mile trip yesterday my CT would not let me control the speed either no matter how much I scrolled. Very annoying. Also very annoying, my CT avoided about ten white splotches, (assuringly bird poop) on the highway by swerving to avoid them. Swerving at 75 mph puts the swerve into the violent category. I wonder what my blood pressure was right after each of the swerves. I know that Tesla will get everything fixed but the claims that v. 14.1.7 is perfect is not quite accurate. We will get closer to perfect very soon I'm sure.

 

[georgek43]

I also don’t like not being able to control speed. In my neighborhood I like to drive 15. Speed limit is 25. But way too fast for the amount of kids playing in the street (my CT brings all the kids to the yard, that’s right, it’s better than yours). But I also live MadMax, not the speed but the decisiveness, it actually reflects my turn signal on the highway, turn it in and it changes lane. In that not, who is taking FSD to drive in the middle or left lane when there is no one in the right lane!?!?

Anyway my point being, attitude and speed should not be rolled into one profile. I could be in sloth, ok with going 40 over, as long as it stays in its lane, or in MadMax and go 5 under.

I agree 100%. There are likely many improvements, but i am not experiencing most of them because I’m repeatedly disengaging FSD as when pushes the CT way over the speed limit. I do hope someone with sense at Tesla reads these comments and returns driver control of max speed in FSD.

I'm glad they got rid of the scroll speed settings. One less thing for me to worry about.

There are a few county roads I take to work and they don't have signs. Old fsd I'd have to scroll up to 55 and then nudge it because it thinks those roads are 35. Now, I just keep it in Mad Max and it cruises along at 62.

Things change, especially fsd. It'll continue to get better.

seems different drivers at different locations have different needs. I’m glad it’s working better for you, it’s definitely not better for me. I’m extremely unhappy. It would be nice to have the ability to set the option for manual max speed or use the new profiles, to satisfy everyone.

Until you get pulled over for 15 over. My sense is that Tesla’s willingness to drive 20 over under the car’s control, eliminating a speed-specific over-ride (which the driving-style substitution is not) is the company ASKING for a nanny-state regulatory solution, is therefore irresponsible.

While we are in pure Supervised FSD mode, we are either supervising or we’re not - cannot have it both ways, regardless of fanboi rationalization supporting every change, even the ones marked in the version notes as needing improvement in further updates.

you have a point with Tesla taking a big risk poking the bear for nanny state regulations. (The conspiracy theory part of my brain wonders if the decision to take away manual maximum speed control is intentional industrial sabotage, but couldn’t be, right?).

and you have a good point about the confusion of either supervised or not. the vehicle will no longer allow me to control speed for safety or to avoid legal consequences but it keeps telling me to ‘pay attention to the road’ every time I linger too long looking at the display showing that I’m going too fast. WTA?

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