Major mistake not including charge cables with all new vehicles!

[SAVFPV]

It should just be free to any first-time Tesla owner, too.

Yes, Exactly this.

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[SwampNut]

Tech person here, I have SO.DAMN.MANY cables and adapters and "free" trash trash trash. Everything comes with a cable just in case. Trash. My 32" 4k monitor came with a damn HDMI cable, it's 2022, nothing uses that any more. Trash. I have a drawer of USB cables that I have to clean out regularly because it's too full to close. Trash.

 

[SwampNut]

I have a friend who works in e-waste and data destruction. He has pallets of brand new unusable cables with zero value. Pallets of various chargers that are worth less than the cost of shipping, so...trash. Yeah, the more we talk, the more I prefer to minimize "free" stuff and make people choose to produce potential waste. I'm a nut about waste though, I really hate non-recyclable/reusable waste and the impact it has.

 

[John K]

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[Ogre]

A guy a worked with did a lot of wiring and he would recycle the cat5 and other cables for copper value. A nice little side gig. But the copper recycling places wouldn’t take the wire with the housing, they just wanted raw metals so he would have a little cable bon fire to prep the cables for recycling.

I wonder what kind of toxins burning cat 5 cable housing releases into the atmosphere.

 

[John K]

A guy a worked with did a lot of wiring and he would recycle the cat5 and other cables for copper value. A nice little side gig. But the copper recycling places wouldn’t take the wire with the housing, they just wanted raw metals so he would have a little cable bon fire to prep the cables for recycling.

I wonder what kind of toxins burning cat 5 cable housing releases into the atmosphere.

Supposed to pull/strip the wires! Angry at the “guys you worked with.

Reminds me of a $1000 copper spool stolen from storage at a neighbors shop. (From my father‘s machine shop) The thief maybe got $20 recycling at the time. (And they probably burned the casing too)

 

[SwampNut]

Well, if they were plenum cables, supposedly nothing harmful to humans.

 

[John K]

Well, if they were plenum cables, supposedly nothing harmful to humans.

Some people have said smoking tobacco is good for one’s health. Maybe this was around 60 years ago.

 

[SSonnentag]

Gosh, seven pages in and nobody has made the suggestion that Tesla should have made this a deletable option, saving $200 if you uncheck the box. Psychologically, saving $200 is so much more attractive than having to pay an extra $200 for something we considered included. Considering how much they’ve increased prices, they could easily have absorbed this…or just slightly accelerated the next $1000 price hike!

Rivian’s debacle should have made this the obvious marketing move: “All Teslas now cheaper if you don’t need…”

That's pretty much what they did, only it's unchecked by default.

 

[Deleted member 859]

The OP is obviously targeting and trying to scare those who are just beginning research, are not as familiar, or have not owned or thoroughly researched Tesla charging yet. The full answers to their crafted sound byte is a no brain-er for most of us.

I have to own (or eat) something here, as I apparently read the original post too quickly and didn't get the main point (I could say it's because I'm very limited on time, have a job and full plate, yada, yada - but that goes for probably most all of us so I'll digress with that). I simply overlooked the main point, reading it too quickly, and had not fathomed the idea Tesla was excluding the UMC bag with each car. I thought the original poster was talking about an accessory adapter cable rather, than the originally included mobile connector which as what the OP was referring to. Possibly because of the OP's wording of charging cable or the picture of the CCS connector in the video thumbnail - but really I should have perceived the point correctly. There is so much FUD pushing out there being attempted, and I guess I was overly expected FUD. For that to the OP I apologize.​

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Now my thoughts on it specifically are that Tesla possibly has data that shows Mobile Connector charging adapters were not being used extensively by many owners. I'm not sure about that though, because I've seen many videos where users have charged mostly at home using the UMC. Yet a few videos may not be representative of all Tesla owners. I do know that wall connectors are widely used by many owners as well. But, Mobile Connectors are also useful on the road at locations or campgrounds while away from areas with supercharger locations. ​

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Tesla has obviously had to make a business decision, because inflation pressures are at historical record highs putting pressure on Tesla's costs to source or manufacture these Mobile Connector bundles. Tesla did the same thing back in 2019 or around there, with the Homelink garage door opener module, changing it to a separate option purchase instead of being included, after their data showed that a majority of owners were not even using their included one. That was a $300 difference.​

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I now see the Gen2 Mobile Connector Bundle on Teslas website (currently out of stock) for $275, which comes with one 110VAC adapter. Mine came with maybe one or two more adapters, but those are still on the website for approximately $35 each. I had bought one more NEMA 50 adapter to used in case I needed. So the rough cost overall cost difference for all this at the end of the day is effectively about $350, for what most people might need (just hope Tesla gets some more back in stock). Even if paying $450 for a later bundle, it's not the end of the world. So ultimately, owners need to be mindful (which they already should be when purchasing a car of any type), to get the needed charging accessory ordered (in this case the Mobile Connector Bundle with appropriate adapter if needed).​

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Honestly I'm mystified that I got a couple 'likes' on this post originally without getting some more clarification or critical feedback instead of having to find it out myself. We are in difficult times. I think Tesla is doing their best to avoid excess costs, and this may be something that was data or usage driven - not totally sure but Tesla has usually had good reasons before.​

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The rest pertains to road trips and supercharger use with adapters, which I had originally (and mistakenly) thought the focus of the original post was about. Again, my apologies to the OP.​

Anyone can be negligent enough to run out of gas, or drive out of charging range if they let themselves get distracted or are that inept to neglect planning their route. But, this is never the manufacturers fault, no matter what any FUD pusher attempts to say.

Tesla with their onscreen charger displays and navigation, has done very well to prevent range anxiety. Sometimes I've thought they could also include a feature via a Software Update, to alert drivers to "points of no supercharger return", if out on a road trip approaching a point with less range than it would take to return or reach a next supercharger. This might be a good idea, just to alert someone if they're getting out of range for a nearest TESLA supercharger.

But, their are also other level 2 charger options, and destination chargers out all over the place too. Of course if an Electrify America charger had only CCS and Chademo connections, and an almost empty SOC Model 3 pulled up without having either adapter, then they would be in a tow-truck summoning situation. So maybe some additional warnings could alert drivers to prevent that. But, TESLA has no way of knowing if drivers intend to charge at a house or hotel either. So it goes. Ultimately it is the driver's responsibility to plan their route.

Good news is the number Tesla superchargers keeps growing everyday. I'm actually interested in a CCS adapter in case I'm in a situation that would ever require it, but I've not been in that situation in the last four years, and again supercharges are becoming more and more available. I'm not sure all cars can automatically use a CCS adapter either, as on the info screen some models show CCS adapter support as No or Not Installed. I think those possibly would require Tesla Service upgrade if not too early of a VIN or in the worst case they'd be an unsupported model.

But, 'the sky is falling' narratives against Tesla will likely be attempted by many as Tesla continues to ramp up.

I really want the CCS adapter for my Model S because I feel other car manufacturers are going to be using that system, therefore we will see more charging stations with CCS. Having the ability to use a Supercharger or CCS will greatly expand our charging options.

 

[Ogre]

Supposed to pull/strip the wires! Angry at the “guys you worked with.

Reminds me of a $1000 copper spool stoled from storage at a neighbors shop. (From my father‘s machine shop) The thief maybe got $20 recycling at the time. (And they probably burned the casing too)

Your linked video made me think of it.

In the California Central Valley they had to stop most copper recycling because people would destroy $5000 wells to steal the copper so they could get… $50 or something stupid.

They wound up making it a lot more difficult to recycle, requiring ID and some other things.

 

[SwampNut]

On occasion, you hear about a crackhead stealing live copper wiring and being crisped. This makes me giggle. Good riddance.

 

[CTBags]

Cheap? Sure. Will it stop anyone from buying a Tesla? No.

Maybe not right now. Bad moves aggregate over time, especially as competitors close the distance. I rent so I use MC exclusively at home. This is a kick in the junk to renters or those who cannot otherwise install hardware at home.

 

[SwampNut]

A 0.05% cost is a kick in the junk? What do you think of the recent 6% increases?

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