My only 2 cars are EVs. is that OK?

[CyberGus]

I can't enjoy the trip without some vrooom-vrooom, horses have no soul.

At least a horse has FSD

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[Tony2times]

I live in wildfire country and we have 2 EVs only. Fossil fuels kill people while they ruin the environment and will eventually go the way of the Dodo bird. In the future this will seem a silly question. If more people don’t do what you and I and others have done, there won’t be people around on this planet to wonder. In my mind, there is less and less legitimate argument to causing harm to others by purchasing ICE vehicles in personal use cases as there are now plenty of options for BEV alternatives. Clearly the industry is still working on range issues but inconviencing me for an extra charge or two vs “inconveniencing” someone else by harming them with a potentially lethal asthma attack is a no-brainer unless you are extraordinarily selfish. May sound harsh, but I think the oil industry has normalized not stopping to think about it this way and people should absolutely think about it this way. I work in the emergency department and have done so for 20 years. The incidence of potentially fatal respiratory attacks has absolutely been on a notable rise over the course of just my own career and it should scare pretty much everyone who enjoys breathing.

My two cents

I have 2 Teslas but not for the reasons mentioned above. I only own Teslas for the technology, speed and the fact that I don’t have to deal with the traditional dealer model. I don’t care about the politics.

 

[TickTock]

My wife had similar concerns about being all-EV. The final argument that begrudgingly won her over was "we can always rent an ICE for any long-distance road trips (if we want)." We have never actually done it - it is almost impossible to get her out of her S now she loves it so much.

 

[CtGA]

I get range anxiety with a horse. Can a horse "fill up" in 15 minutes? And a horse can't go 80 mph, which is a necessity for me, because everyone else does. Plus I drive 800 miles per day and need to tow a trailer that weighs 7 tons.

I also need it seat 6 people that are all over 6 feet tall and are allergic to horses. Plus horses don't make that vrooom-vrooom sound. I can't enjoy the trip without some vrooom-vrooom, horses have no soul.

You don’t need a horse. You need an ox or 4. They pull literal tons of weight, go forever on charge, but you’ll sacrifice speed. Check out Oregon trail if you want a test drive.

 

[TeslaFANa]

I've heard a statement that I dont want my only two cars to be EVs. while generally it is smart for safety and reliability to have diversity (not political). For example an airplane can measure altitude by both air pressure and radar to the ground. My opinion is that if the grid goes down you will not have electricity to pump the gas. And furthermore in Hurricane situations gas stations run out of gas before the grid goes down.

I think it's completely fine to have only EVs, for the past 7 years we've had a model X, a model S and now the Cyber truck, We have three kids, we often travel places that are 3 to 6 hours away, we live in a part of South Carolina where power outages do occur (twice per year maybe?). And I can sincerely tell you we have never had any problems. We even kept a Land Cruiser thinking we would need it at some point when we first bought our electric cars and the Land Cruiser rotted in the driveway. I think you do have to be a little bit more prepared; Plan ahead, especially during trips, hurricane situations, etc.

 

[TeslaFANa]

My wife had similar concerns about being all-EV. The final argument that begrudgingly won her over was "we can always rent an ICE for any long-distance road trips (if we want)." We have never actually done it - it is almost impossible to get her out of her S now she loves it so much.

100% this

 

[L3it3R]

We have only had EVs for years now. It’s perfectly fine. I don’t ever want a petrol vehicle again

 

[Outdoors]

Remove the grid. When it goes down you won't know.
2 EV's work the same.

My small local community needed to do line work that would make the town dark for 5 hours in the night a couple years ago. I stayed up to watch from the top of the mountain. It was awesome.

I stick with what can carry vs ride. I like burros and llamas. Those tend to have personality and compassion.

 

[roadrunner32]

I’m a 2 EV home also, no ICE vehicles. I live in a state where the grid gets whacked by tornadoes, hurricanes, and annual freezes. The only solution for the paranoid prepper is solar + batteries. My only generator is the CT. The longest outage I’ve experienced is 9 hours after Beryl, but some Houstonians were without power for a week. Unless your state has all power generation underground, you’ll likely suffer a grid outage at some point. In California we had rolling blackouts, wildfires, and earthquakes that took out power ever year. Having lived through all that, and I’m older than most folks on this forum, I‘m confident that 100% electric is the way to go for energy independence. Whether or not you’re able to get solar is the big question. Do it for independence and piece of mind, not to save money or save the world from climate variability.

Before the Generac crowd chimes in, during the Big Freeze of 2021 in Texas most power generation plants lost plumbing, and there was no flow of natural gas. If you’re into storing fuel on your premises, then more power to you (hehe). After Beryl so many homes had Generac failures it made headlines. The beauty of Solar + batteries is the low or no maintenance. Generacs need lots of maintenance, like any other ICE solution. Compare the cost of a Generac to a 20 year Solar + batteries ROI, and be sure to include the cost of maintenance and fuel based on some expected outage frequency. I’m sure a Ben Sullins type out there has done this analysis.

title to my post was misleading, meant it to be something like "what would be wrong about having 2 EVs". In my opinion, Replacing my short bed truck with a truck with one that can take a load of gravel, dirt, Sod, lumber, plywood or whatever. It could power the house during these many outages that we have. It can go through high water on the roads that locked us in during Alberto and Francine. I think people will get over its looks especially when we could go on the beach and pull out vehicles that got caught in the rising tide. Now that, THAT thing to do. "look at those old farts (78) with that high falutin' thing doing something others could not do".
Your comment on Generac is right on. We considered getting a generac plus large propane tank but the cost and reliability put it out of the question. Solar is a problem due to high winds salt air. we are 2 miles from beach and 20 ft from the bay.

 

[deltaflyboy]

I've heard a statement that I dont want my only two cars to be EVs. while generally it is smart for safety and reliability to have diversity (not political). For example an airplane can measure altitude by both air pressure and radar to the ground. My opinion is that if the grid goes down you will not have electricity to pump the gas. And furthermore in Hurricane situations gas stations run out of gas before the grid goes down.

I live in Florida and can tell you first hand that if we lose electricity the pumps will go down also. Case and point I believe it was Irma. We evacuated out of St Petersburg to Gainesville. On way home electricity was out just about everywhere . Only one Tesla supercharger was out and on the App we can see everything as you know. Most gas stations were closed as couldn't pump gas. Those that were open the lines were so long (hours). We had no problems charging and no wait on way home.

The comparison to flying is apples and oranges. The 2 different ways to tell altitude are for 2 totally different reasons in flight. You could never use radar altimeter to fly at a specified altitude its sole used for ground clearance.

 

[Paul Scott]

we are an all EV household, have 9 kw of solar on the roof, 40kw of battery backup on the house and a CT with Powershare. I could go quiet a while without power from the grid and still be just fine. I would like to add more solar and put in more efficient AC.

 

[REM]

There are many ways to make your own electricity. But under no circumstances can you make your own gasoline.

If you really need a disaster-proof solution, get a horse.

Better off with a couple mules

 

[Cerberus]

Living Tesla only since 2018

Zero issues

And now I can plug my house into my truck

It got even better lol

 

[XCeilidhX]

I have 2 Teslas but not for the reasons mentioned above. I only own Teslas for the technology, speed and the fact that I don’t have to deal with the traditional dealer model. I don’t care about the politics.

It’s funny to me that you said politics. It’s politicians that convinced people that science is political. In reality, science that strives to be unbiased could never by definition be political in and of itself.

I don’t see my job as political. I help people. If helping people is now political, there is something wrong with politics. I have issues with deniers of truth regardless of their political leanings or lack thereof. As the old saying goes, we are all entitled to our own opinions, but not our own facts. Anyone that tries to turn actual unbiased scientific data into something political can only ever have a motivation to distract you from paying attention to facts that would endanger that individual’s politcal aspirations. I mean to state this conceptually rather than politically, by the way. We aren’t supposed to discuss politics on this forum, which I try to comply with. It is sad to me that in this day and age even discussing how pollution has clearly increased the incidence of respiratory ailments is “politics” rather than simply a statement of fact, or at least the strongest sort of observed correlation. I suppose one could argue that stating something about the oil industry is political, although I really don’t think so when clearly the oil industry is actually responsible for the majority of the pollution. We have data and figures on these things.

The way the public has been programmed to respond to scientific data at this point is appalling to me. If we don’t have a neutral starting point we can all agree on (facts/unbiased raw data) then there is no way to come to compromises or understand one another when we differ in opinion or interpretation. Science and math were meant to be the ultimate standard in that regard but from my opinionated perspective this has been methodically and intentionally undone to get the public to a point where they cannot use these things as an agreed-upon standard and medical facts are now just “politics.” I would think any serious physician with the best interest of their patients in mind would have to have a respect for science in order to assist the population properly. Pity that other professions apparently do not have the same requirement.

All those features you mentioned are icing on the cake for me. What I like best is sleeping well at night.

My two cents.

Cheers.

 

[mbrockus]

I have been petrol free since 2018 in the PNW.

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