Naysayer Superthread

[CyberGus]

Another day, another article. This time, it's Business Insider's "Side-by-side photos show how much Tesla's Cybertruck has changed from Elon Musk's original designs".

We got another mention! Woo-hoo!

• Zero to 60 in 2.9 seconds. 3500 payload. 500 mile range. I must have missed it, but what automotive publication reported those results? Or are these the claims of Elon, who claimed the ugly thing would be on the market 3 years ago
• Electric vehicles are not "zero emission" in any way, they just move the emissions to different times and sources.
• People don't generally buy pickups for their 0 to 60 acceleration.
• The wraps definitely improve the look.
• Just a Reminder that Elon doesn’t have a workable, sellable truck despite lying for years that it was always next year.
• how could anyone think a wrap job on a tesla truck could make it look like a Ford F150 ? Or a Tundra.
• 500 mile range? Right. As long as you don’t tow anything, carry a load, or use the heater or ac. If you do, you can halve that number if you’re lucky.
• I got a c-note that says no deliveries will be made to the general public until next year. And it's 500 mile range is a figment of Elon's imagination. I recently moved 3200lbs in my ecodiesel 90 miles. I got 23mpg, made the round trip without fueling or stopping, except to load.
• They could sell those for $10k and it could get 5000 miles on one charge, I wouldn’t buy one because it’s UGLY
• Pretty much the most unsightly vehicle I've ever seen.
• It could corner the market? As it turns the corner make sure it's not flooding, too hot or freezing. E-cars don't do well in those conditions.
• Wow, those cybertrucks are not good looking vehicles.
• Looks like a bloated Aztec.
• It's still one of the ugliest vehicles on the rd and not practical at all
• I think it would be wise to discuss and set parameters of what a pickup truck is? This is a vehicle that is not available, and with appearances indicating it cannot carry a meaningful payload, or get out of town and return if loaded.
• Pickup trucks traditionally are designed for and used by working people, to get them where they need to be on time, without lolly gagging at a charging station. Yes there are some with comfort options but the core is still a truck.
• This vehicle is pure and simple a poser mobile and not a truck, yes I'm sure some will think they look studley in their loafers drinking a soy latte at a charging station, lol
• Can a CyperTruck tow 5,000 Lbs. for as great a distance as a Tundra? Thought not. Not even close.
• Looks nothing like a Tundra, but it is ugly.
• Not impressed!!
• In 25 years we are going to have a huge and devastating battery waste issue that will diminish any EV “eco savings”.
• With the weight [because of the batteries] already near the maximum for a pick up truck, I wonder just how much weight the kyber truq can carry?
• You can wrap that ugly thing with anything, but just like leopard, you can't change it's spots. As usual, much ado about nothing.
• If every single American was forced to scrap their gas cars, trucks, and SUVs and replace them with EVs the world's CO2 emissions would drop by only 1%. ONE percent! This would come at the environmental cost of the huge amount of mining and processing needed to make EV batteries.
• The absolute most gawdy lines ever produced on a vehicle. Horrible. The wrap doesn't look half bad. It hides that hideous profile.
• Can’t trust any of their claims on mileage anymore. Their reputation continues its slump downward.
• Not a vehicle for areas with a lot of snow. The back window would be impossible to see out of.
• One of the ugliest and useless "truck" I've ever seen.
• This thing looks horrible no matter how they wrap it.
• As much as I want one of the new Rivian trucks I am not convinced we don't have an electric grid issue in trying to produce the electricity in the first place to charge all them AND run society at the same time.
• That is one UGLY creation
• Yes you can reach 60 mph in 2.9 seconds and then you get stuck behind a car that goes the speed limit for 1 hour in a two-lane highway with solid lines.
• I guess people can never race, this truck or other teslas on a salt flat if it's a little wet, Because a couple days later it will be burned to the ground. That's when you say so...much for the environment.
• The tesla truck is the ugliest piece of junk ever. No wonder they dress it up to look like something else. I bet it almost has enough room to carry a few bags of groceries.
• That thing is just ugly
• Those things are so ugly. It's like driving a washing machine all boxy and square
• Yeeeeeeah, about the tailpipe, C02 is not pollution, it's literally plant food that is making the world greener. Inconvenient fact.
• Cars driving around dressed up like other cars. Not your fathers drag race.
• Can't wait to see result on the crash test, when you create teaser videos and does not show the actual damage, something is not right...
• without the wrap they are only worth half price . you can put lipstick on a pig but it will still be a pig .
• The fact that there's already an owners club for a vehicle not released yet tells you all you need to know?
• The cybertruck reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Homer's brother gives him carte blanche to design a new vehicle. It looked just about as ridiculous!
• Promises , Promises! I will believe them when I see them. Is the price even firmed up? There are a lot of unknowns, still.
• I think a windshield that slanted would have ripples looking through it, but then I drive a Model T.
• I'll believe it when i see it, what is the range when towing?
• The move to electric vehicles has little to do with pollution and everything to do with control. No different than covid masks.
• Tesla introduces the Ugly truck.
• Put 3,500 pounds in the back and it can probably go only 100 miles. Except there isn't enough room to put that much in the back.
• The Cybertruck looks like a DeLorean had a one night stand with a dumpster.
• lol, we farm, if we used that truck it'd be destroyed in like 1 hour. hahaha
• headline has the word tesla therefore you get tesla comments just give me the golden shovel with my truck, and don't park these things where it might flood, house fires and neighbors house won't stand a chance, florida 8/ 27/2023
• At the end of the day... the cyber truck "trolling" other trucks. Meanwhile, the cybertruck looks like something a 4th grader drew, is plagued with problems, is twice as expensive as all other trucks, poorly designed..... yeah. Great job trolling, tesla
• What's the troll? The cybertruck looks terrible. Putting those stickers on just underlines how hideous it actually is.
• People will not buy an EV if they look drastically different from other vehicles.
• Yeah, they'll probably have to discount the price of this one too once the fan bois stop buying.
• Hot acceleration is no big deal, 500 mile range? Let’s load one up and drive it around a city for a day
• 500 miles no chance maybe 200 maybe
• I key Tesla Douchemobiles.
• lets put 3500# behind that cyberchunk and see how far we can go.
• What's the point in disguising it with a wrap YEARS after you've revealed to the public what it looks like, lol.
• this has got to be one of the ugliest trucks ever designed, so what if it's electric, how do you charge it in the winter when the power goes out, good luck.
• If it's half as cheap as a Ford, I'd probably buy it and keep the wrap and pretend I am in a Ford.
• Oh, and here I was, thinking it was hauling cargo better or something actually useful. But no, they are talking about the color of wraps.
• All these wraps do is to remind people that the F-150 Lightning and Tundra are both better looking vehicles than the Cybertruck. Tesla is only trolling itself with wraps that remind potential customers how ugly the Cybertruck really is.
• We don’t even know the price yet on each model.
• Musk is afraid
• It's a novelty item, nothing more nothing less. It's not practical for a truck as what's the purpose for a truck? To be able to haul things in the bed of it, over the top of it on a lumber rack and to be able to pull dump trailers, car trailers, rv's etc. I don't remember EVER hearing that this thing has a 3500 lb pay load, a 500 mile range and seriously, why would anyone want to go from zero to 60 in 2.9 seconds. For what reason, the thrill? Just the fact that you can? Stupid, plus I still haven't heard what the cost of this "truck" is. There will be THOSE people who gotta have it, to be the first fools on the block to own one but I can guarantee you one thing, you won't find any of them on a work site because that's where the REAL TRUCKS will be.
• "Well .. we're waiting." Judge Smails.
• If they say a range of 500 miles, the real range is probably about half that, and then cut it in half again if you live up North
• I'm taking bets on the 500 mile range, I'm on the never gonna happen side.
• Maybe Tesla should focus on launching the Cybertruck on time time instead of trolling epic brands.
• When will Elon Musk finally resign or the board kick him out (just like he was kicked out of PayPal) so an actual adult can run the company?
• So basically it’s trying to take the crown as most annoying vehicle on the road. It’s going to take a lot to dethrone those ram trucks.
• Hideous
• Probably the worse looking truck ever made in the history of mankind.
• he could flat out give me one and i'd sell it.. i can't drive something that ugly..
• Typical Barbie Pick'em up Marketing Ploy taking the place of real industrial design.
• As the guy at Ford noted, it's a pick up for Silicon Valley Techies.
• Please stop calling it a truck. Such a joke.
• They can keep it. All over hyped Bull. Good luck on your charging at the job site.
• Looks interesting, but would not want to try to clean the windshield..
• Its stupid looking even without the wrap but I'm sure some dill weed will buy one.
• anybody want to race theirs against a R1T? i think the rivian would edge out a win... and it probably won't leak inside during a rainstorm...
• what did they name the thing? By the looks, Hideosity would be a good one.
• WAY too ugly for me! Even my old beater, '96 Mazda P/U looks better!
• Stop calling that abomination a pickup truck. It's nothing more than an upscaled Tonka truck.
• If I designed something that ugly, I'd be trying to wrap it with something good looking too.
• It's still just like putting lipstick on a swine.
• it's ugly.
• Trolling? How many have Tesla sold? Get back to me in 50 years when you catch up.
• Never been a fan of the Ford Fhaag 150 or the people who drive this Chinese made vehicle.
• That is the ugliest truck I have ever seen. I would be embarrassed to be seen in it!
• It's still ugly.
• I have illegal emissions delete kit on my power stroke. I enjoy rolling coal on all tesla drivers. It irks the heck out of them but I don't give a darn.
• Should hire an Ferrari designer for a better looking truck.
• Lipstick on a pig.....
• Still a lame vehicle.
• from i can see in that picture it looks like it might hold a suit case and i bet it wont get 500 miles on a charge musk likes to lie a little any way i would have the goofy looking piece of junk
• Just plane ugly,...useless as a truck,...for someone that wants attention
• Useless as a truck,...a fade for someone desperate for attention...
• Dear Soon-To-Be CyberTruck Drivers, please know that when you drive your truck down the street, 50% of people look at you will think you are "compensating" for a small... you know what; 50% think you have some weird attention-seeking complex, and probably 90% overall think you are just a silly jerk...
• still a garbage company with trash vehicles. i guarantee that trash heap cant even go make it over the rockies.
• Forkin argly
• That is one ugly looking truck, I don't care what it can do.
• Still ugly and useless.
• Worst looking truck l have ever seen
• This is one very, very, very ugly vehicle
• Just get rid of the black wheel fad. It looks like a stolen car when returned. Junk.
• That is a shame
• Now do a wrap trolling Lamborghini
• That guy is such a db
• Those "trucks" look so goofy.
• If you like ugly, this is it.
• Butt ugly
• Looks like a tree fell on a gay green goblin

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[greggertruck]

I've decided to start collecting all the naysayers' snark, so that we can revisit this annually for a good laugh.

Today's material comes from "TheDrive" article "Tesla Cybertruck Wrapped Like a Toyota Tundra Is Really Beating a Dead Horse" (we got a mention! LOL!):

• It's almost like the engineers took it as a challenge when someone jokingly said, "Hey, do you think it's possible to make a vehicle even uglier and less appealing than, say, a Pontiac Aztek??"
• And, I used to think the Pontiac Aztek about the ugliest thing on wheels.
• The truck is hideous. The only person who would even consider buying this is a collector, because this thing is going to go bust.
• Reminds me of another stainless steel vehicle that didn’t work out.
• The only reason it is on anyone's mind is because of the movies.
• Looks like a 4 year old's drawing of a car. And what's up with the raised slanted sides of the bed? Those are going to make it harder to load/unload.
• Pretentious people will buy it because they think they’re cool being the first out the gate, but after that dies down it’s going to fall by the wayside. Too many competitors coming up with way better design.
• It just looks dumb to me and I'm sure my opinion isn't popular but why does it look like something a 5 year old designed. Outside of the hype, of owning one because its so unique, it seems like another poorly built tesla.
• What do they want me to see? The fact that it's not as good as other offerings on the truck market? That their sloped side is too tall for side bed access?
• If anything, these wraps show all the ways in which this shape doesn't work for a truck.
• If Musk gave me one for free I would sell and get a Tundra, unless that little storage area was full of 50 dollar bills. Then I would drive it all over the states.
• Cybertruck Owner's Club... I guess there are zero members since no one owns one?
• What's the point of buying a pickup truck that has restricted cargo space and no headroom for rear passengers?
• So this is the modern day Pontiac Aztek?
• Stainless steel body panels are fantastic!! Until of course they get the tiniest ding, then you have to replace the whole panel because you can't just straighten out stainless. I really don't feel sorry for whoever buys one of those, they get what they deserve.
• Interesting. A vehicle pretending to be a truck dressed up like another vehicle pretending to be a truck.
• Remember the Simpsons episode where Homer's long lost half brother Herb finds him, and gets him to create a new car for the everyman, and Homer's design is so awful it puts Herb out of business? Yea, I'd take Homer's car over this piece of junk.
• People thought they were buying a hot new Tesla. Instead they got an ugly version of the old "Brat". This hidious thing is useless as a pickup truck. Used car dealers don't want them because the resale value will be a loss sale.
• Owners are going to love those blindspots.
• The tundra will drive for years with little to no issues long after the stainless steel panels are the only thing left of value on that tesla.
• They should release that hunk of junk already instead of dickering around that way it can get "properly" panned once people really get a load of it.
• The cybertruck looks like the third place winner at a middle school science fair.
• I think the Tesla designers and engineers need to go back to the drawing board for this "truck".
• Worst design ever. Makes the Aztec look amazing and normal
• The cybertruck is going to be the biggest flop product of the century. And i want to be a fan, i really do. But this design is just bogus.
• this tells you why proportion is so important. you put any good looking truck design into cybertruck it looks bad
• Are people ever going to wake up and realize EV's are the latest gimmick and does absolutely zero for the environment ?
• Is it a trans truck? Trying to identify as something it is not?
• My Tesla Model 3 is the best car ever built. I'm pretty sure the Cybertruck will carry on the tradition. No gas tank, no tail pipe. What's not to love?
• No matter how you wrapt it, it looks better than it did. What a design strike out. Sometimes Elon is too smart by 1/2.
• The wrap is because they trying to make it look like an ICE truck that people actually want. And there is another thing. If you buy an EV, you are sending money to Russia. EVs are funding their side of the War going on right now.
• This is Musk's sense of humor; He must have said, "I'll make anything and the public will buy it". The Cyber truck is proof that we'll buy anything Musk sells.
• Sorry Tesla, this truck is ugly. I don't design cars, but I approve designs for a clothing line. When I see a design that bothers my eyes I know it's wrong. This truck is one of those. If they want truck buyers, go back and redesign. Sometimes "different" is just weird not better.
• Ugly doesn't even cover it, I would be embarrassed to be seen driving it, did the engineer's get together and plan making the ugliest ever????
• Adding color make this design seem even more absurd than before.
• This THING is nothing but the newest incarnation of the Hummer and other such vehicles. Once the newness wears off, people will quickly realize this thing is as useless as it looks
• That is beyond ugly. It’s so incredibly ugly that I don’t understand.
• The Cyber Truck will evolve ..Tesla will make a Pick Up truck, In Texas.. most likely steel or aluminum ( lighter anyway ).. dropping the bullet proof windows, and of course a more “ conventional “ design .. Right now the Cyber Truck has over 1 million pre order interest .. let the market work…..
• So they are spending time creating and wrapping vehicles without having solved their own problems and sold one vehicle yet?
• Doesn't matter the wrap, the cybertruck still looks bad.
• one look at those tires and you know its not a "real" truck
• Why do the keep doing these wraps? Are just basically trying to subliminally convince us of what we already know? And that is not to buy the cyber Aztec or should i say Frankenstein DeLorean?
• My Toyota Tundra feels terribly insulted.
• Keep beating the Tesla cyber truck with an ugly stick is like trying to polish a turd.
• you can not just "band aid" ugly and not trying to be funny or sarcastic but I would not own that ugly creation even if "Musket" gave it to me for free! I would be embarrassed to be seen drive the ugly electric toy anywhere!
• Wow thats ugly
• i'd uber before i drove something that UGLY..
• i guess that's all the CT is good for, jokes.
• this doesn't look very nice.... just saying
• 100% hate this truck and hope it fails big time
• Putting lipstick on a pig.
• They have to keep doing this because its so dam ugly.
• These things are getting uglier by the day!
• Cartoonish and ridiculous, how many people are going to bang their heads getting into that back seat?
• Not very good looking
• you see that windshield, man it's huge
• The joke is on the Tesla buyer. I doubt Musk would even drive one.
• Wouldn't take a free one ??
• Does the wrap help contain the flames from the battery fire?
• Nah, the cybertruck wish it was the Tundra, you know one of those shoes at Walmart that wants to look like a Nike, but just isn't. Yeah that is the one.
• Well, why not, it couldn't get any fuglier.
• I'm shocked that they somehow managed to make that goofy Cybertruck look even worse...
• come on commoner! you know i am rich when i drive one.
• The cyber truck looks like the cars in Total Recall. Congrats Tesla, welcome to 1990’s vision of the future. Lol
• This is the Pontiac Aztek 2.0. Fuhhhgggllly.
• Anyone remember the Delorean? I didn't think so. Space Karen has 'jumped the shark.'
• So whoever wrapped it concedes that it is likely the ugliest vehicle ever made. Even the people who have made a deposit and tell us it is a great truck know better.
• Alright kids, Can you say Cyber Junk?
• I like the truck with color on it. The bare metal ones look like appliances. LOL
• They should sell them with that wrap. It makes them look a lot better.
• The performance of the Ford Lightening has taken all the wind out of CyberTruck potential.
• The huge front windshield + a giant wiper are beautiful design right?
• I’m not going to lie: this is the stupidest s. i have ever seen in my entire life.
• Good grief! Looks like something I might have drawn in third grade...and I can't draw a straight line with a ruler!!!
• Lame
• Still the ugliest vehicle ever
• Good luck fixing one in a wreck, and insuring one later
• It is Ugly Truck
• Of course they want it to look like any other truck so it is not so hideous.
• That windshield looks like a major headache to replace.
• And given it's layout, one can only image the debris that get kicked up into it
• WHAT were they thinking with that design?
• I don't care how aerodynamic it supposedly is. Its just bigger version of a Pontiac Aztek! Seriously, look it up!
• That sold HORRIBLY cause it was UGLY, and IMO so is this usless waste from Tesla.
• The ONLY thing it resembles is a Movie Prop???
• Cybertruck is Fug.ly
• Please stop calling that thing a truck. It has nothing in common with a truck in any way, shape, or form.
• I would not take one for free unless I could upsell it
• Wrap 4,000 lbs of garbage in a pink wrapper, it's still 4,000 lbs of garbage. Same thing with this ugly piece of junk.
• You wrap poop in in green plastic...It's still poop.
• He is trying to hide it when it goes dead on the road and he cant find a charge station.
• Ugly and not practical with the angled side bed panels,makes for blind spots and hard to tie down your tiny load ,..in its small bed .Terrible design...The Hot Wheels toy version might sell to children...no serious builder would ever buy one to use in construction..
• It's hideous. I would not call that a truck, looks more like a suv.
• That is the ugliest vehicle I've ever seen.
• Lol so ugly. Can’t believe people bought it. Hahahaha
• My Tundra would pull that cybertruck down the street!
• Is the second row only for Hobbits?
• What a huge Robocop SUX-2000 piece of junk looking thing.
• The design of the Cluster-Truck® is bigly ... ... ... !
• thats a truck? what will it haul a suit case
• Really doesn't look very useful as a truck
• LOL with how rich Musk is you would think he would have good designers, but this so-called truck is nothing but an ugly abomination. I wouldn't be caught dead in one.
• What a HORRIBLE looking car - It WILL Flop! I can't imagine WHO would purchase this Piece of - - - -...
• The ugliest truck ever designed and built.
• it just plain ugly and useless
• Wrap it anyway you want it's still a hideous beast....Only appeals to the "Look at me!" buyer
• Doesn’t matter how you dress it up, it is and always will be ugly.
• A joke and I just ??????
• I can't believe people were putting down payments on this hideous looking truck years ago and still waiting for it. Ridiculous!
• They are trying anything they can to make that Pile not look ugly

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[ÆCIII]

Another day, another article. This time, it's Business Insider's "Side-by-side photos show how much Tesla's Cybertruck has changed from Elon Musk's original designs".

We got another mention! Woo-hoo!

• Zero to 60 in 2.9 seconds. 3500 payload. 500 mile range. I must have missed it, but what automotive publication reported those results? Or are these the claims of Elon, who claimed the ugly thing would be on the market 3 years ago
• Electric vehicles are not "zero emission" in any way, they just move the emissions to different times and sources.
• People don't generally buy pickups for their 0 to 60 acceleration.
• The wraps definitely improve the look.
• Just a Reminder that Elon doesn’t have a workable, sellable truck despite lying for years that it was always next year.
• how could anyone think a wrap job on a tesla truck could make it look like a Ford F150 ? Or a Tundra.
• 500 mile range? Right. As long as you don’t tow anything, carry a load, or use the heater or ac. If you do, you can halve that number if you’re lucky.
• I got a c-note that says no deliveries will be made to the general public until next year. And it's 500 mile range is a figment of Elon's imagination. I recently moved 3200lbs in my ecodiesel 90 miles. I got 23mpg, made the round trip without fueling or stopping, except to load.
• They could sell those for $10k and it could get 5000 miles on one charge, I wouldn’t buy one because it’s UGLY
• Pretty much the most unsightly vehicle I've ever seen.
• It could corner the market? As it turns the corner make sure it's not flooding, too hot or freezing. E-cars don't do well in those conditions.
• Wow, those cybertrucks are not good looking vehicles.
• Looks like a bloated Aztec.
• It's still one of the ugliest vehicles on the rd and not practical at all
• I think it would be wise to discuss and set parameters of what a pickup truck is? This is a vehicle that is not available, and with appearances indicating it cannot carry a meaningful payload, or get out of town and return if loaded.
• Pickup trucks traditionally are designed for and used by working people, to get them where they need to be on time, without lolly gagging at a charging station. Yes there are some with comfort options but the core is still a truck.
• This vehicle is pure and simple a poser mobile and not a truck, yes I'm sure some will think they look studley in their loafers drinking a soy latte at a charging station, lol
• Can a CyperTruck tow 5,000 Lbs. for as great a distance as a Tundra? Thought not. Not even close.
• Looks nothing like a Tundra, but it is ugly.
• Not impressed!!
• In 25 years we are going to have a huge and devastating battery waste issue that will diminish any EV “eco savings”.
• With the weight [because of the batteries] already near the maximum for a pick up truck, I wonder just how much weight the kyber truq can carry?
• You can wrap that ugly thing with anything, but just like leopard, you can't change it's spots. As usual, much ado about nothing.
• If every single American was forced to scrap their gas cars, trucks, and SUVs and replace them with EVs the world's CO2 emissions would drop by only 1%. ONE percent! This would come at the environmental cost of the huge amount of mining and processing needed to make EV batteries.
• The absolute most gawdy lines ever produced on a vehicle. Horrible. The wrap doesn't look half bad. It hides that hideous profile.
• Can’t trust any of their claims on mileage anymore. Their reputation continues its slump downward.
• Not a vehicle for areas with a lot of snow. The back window would be impossible to see out of.
• One of the ugliest and useless "truck" I've ever seen.
• This thing looks horrible no matter how they wrap it.
• As much as I want one of the new Rivian trucks I am not convinced we don't have an electric grid issue in trying to produce the electricity in the first place to charge all them AND run society at the same time.
• That is one UGLY creation
• Yes you can reach 60 mph in 2.9 seconds and then you get stuck behind a car that goes the speed limit for 1 hour in a two-lane highway with solid lines.
• I guess people can never race, this truck or other teslas on a salt flat if it's a little wet, Because a couple days later it will be burned to the ground. That's when you say so...much for the environment.
• The tesla truck is the ugliest piece of junk ever. No wonder they dress it up to look like something else. I bet it almost has enough room to carry a few bags of groceries.
• That thing is just ugly
• Those things are so ugly. It's like driving a washing machine all boxy and square
• Yeeeeeeah, about the tailpipe, C02 is not pollution, it's literally plant food that is making the world greener. Inconvenient fact.
• Cars driving around dressed up like other cars. Not your fathers drag race.
• Can't wait to see result on the crash test, when you create teaser videos and does not show the actual damage, something is not right...
• without the wrap they are only worth half price . you can put lipstick on a pig but it will still be a pig .
• The fact that there's already an owners club for a vehicle not released yet tells you all you need to know?
• The cybertruck reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Homer's brother gives him carte blanche to design a new vehicle. It looked just about as ridiculous!
• Promises , Promises! I will believe them when I see them. Is the price even firmed up? There are a lot of unknowns, still.
• I think a windshield that slanted would have ripples looking through it, but then I drive a Model T.
• I'll believe it when i see it, what is the range when towing?
• The move to electric vehicles has little to do with pollution and everything to do with control. No different than covid masks.
• Tesla introduces the Ugly truck.
• Put 3,500 pounds in the back and it can probably go only 100 miles. Except there isn't enough room to put that much in the back.
• The Cybertruck looks like a DeLorean had a one night stand with a dumpster.
• lol, we farm, if we used that truck it'd be destroyed in like 1 hour. hahaha
• headline has the word tesla therefore you get tesla comments just give me the golden shovel with my truck, and don't park these things where it might flood, house fires and neighbors house won't stand a chance, florida 8/ 27/2023
• At the end of the day... the cyber truck "trolling" other trucks. Meanwhile, the cybertruck looks like something a 4th grader drew, is plagued with problems, is twice as expensive as all other trucks, poorly designed..... yeah. Great job trolling, tesla
• What's the troll? The cybertruck looks terrible. Putting those stickers on just underlines how hideous it actually is.
• People will not buy an EV if they look drastically different from other vehicles.
• Yeah, they'll probably have to discount the price of this one too once the fan bois stop buying.
• Hot acceleration is no big deal, 500 mile range? Let’s load one up and drive it around a city for a day
• 500 miles no chance maybe 200 maybe
• I key Tesla Douchemobiles.
• lets put 3500# behind that cyberchunk and see how far we can go.
• What's the point in disguising it with a wrap YEARS after you've revealed to the public what it looks like, lol.
• this has got to be one of the ugliest trucks ever designed, so what if it's electric, how do you charge it in the winter when the power goes out, good luck.
• If it's half as cheap as a Ford, I'd probably buy it and keep the wrap and pretend I am in a Ford.
• Oh, and here I was, thinking it was hauling cargo better or something actually useful. But no, they are talking about the color of wraps.
• All these wraps do is to remind people that the F-150 Lightning and Tundra are both better looking vehicles than the Cybertruck. Tesla is only trolling itself with wraps that remind potential customers how ugly the Cybertruck really is.
• We don’t even know the price yet on each model.
• Musk is afraid
• It's a novelty item, nothing more nothing less. It's not practical for a truck as what's the purpose for a truck? To be able to haul things in the bed of it, over the top of it on a lumber rack and to be able to pull dump trailers, car trailers, rv's etc. I don't remember EVER hearing that this thing has a 3500 lb pay load, a 500 mile range and seriously, why would anyone want to go from zero to 60 in 2.9 seconds. For what reason, the thrill? Just the fact that you can? Stupid, plus I still haven't heard what the cost of this "truck" is. There will be THOSE people who gotta have it, to be the first fools on the block to own one but I can guarantee you one thing, you won't find any of them on a work site because that's where the REAL TRUCKS will be.
• "Well .. we're waiting." Judge Smails.
• If they say a range of 500 miles, the real range is probably about half that, and then cut it in half again if you live up North
• I'm taking bets on the 500 mile range, I'm on the never gonna happen side.
• Maybe Tesla should focus on launching the Cybertruck on time time instead of trolling epic brands.
• When will Elon Musk finally resign or the board kick him out (just like he was kicked out of PayPal) so an actual adult can run the company?
• So basically it’s trying to take the crown as most annoying vehicle on the road. It’s going to take a lot to dethrone those ram trucks.
• Hideous
• Probably the worse looking truck ever made in the history of mankind.
• he could flat out give me one and i'd sell it.. i can't drive something that ugly..
• Typical Barbie Pick'em up Marketing Ploy taking the place of real industrial design.
• As the guy at Ford noted, it's a pick up for Silicon Valley Techies.
• Please stop calling it a truck. Such a joke.
• They can keep it. All over hyped Bull. Good luck on your charging at the job site.
• Looks interesting, but would not want to try to clean the windshield..
• Its stupid looking even without the wrap but I'm sure some dill weed will buy one.
• anybody want to race theirs against a R1T? i think the rivian would edge out a win... and it probably won't leak inside during a rainstorm...
• what did they name the thing? By the looks, Hideosity would be a good one.
• WAY too ugly for me! Even my old beater, '96 Mazda P/U looks better!
• Stop calling that abomination a pickup truck. It's nothing more than an upscaled Tonka truck.
• If I designed something that ugly, I'd be trying to wrap it with something good looking too.
• It's still just like putting lipstick on a swine.
• it's ugly.
• Trolling? How many have Tesla sold? Get back to me in 50 years when you catch up.
• Never been a fan of the Ford Fhaag 150 or the people who drive this Chinese made vehicle.
• That is the ugliest truck I have ever seen. I would be embarrassed to be seen in it!
• It's still ugly.
• I have illegal emissions delete kit on my power stroke. I enjoy rolling coal on all tesla drivers. It irks the heck out of them but I don't give a darn.
• Should hire an Ferrari designer for a better looking truck.
• Lipstick on a pig.....
• Still a lame vehicle.
• from i can see in that picture it looks like it might hold a suit case and i bet it wont get 500 miles on a charge musk likes to lie a little any way i would have the goofy looking piece of junk
• Just plane ugly,...useless as a truck,...for someone that wants attention
• Useless as a truck,...a fade for someone desperate for attention...
• Dear Soon-To-Be CyberTruck Drivers, please know that when you drive your truck down the street, 50% of people look at you will think you are "compensating" for a small... you know what; 50% think you have some weird attention-seeking complex, and probably 90% overall think you are just a silly jerk...
• still a garbage company with trash vehicles. i guarantee that trash heap cant even go make it over the rockies.
• Forkin argly
• That is one ugly looking truck, I don't care what it can do.
• Still ugly and useless.
• Worst looking truck l have ever seen
• This is one very, very, very ugly vehicle
• Just get rid of the black wheel fad. It looks like a stolen car when returned. Junk.
• That is a shame
• Now do a wrap trolling Lamborghini
• That guy is such a db
• Those "trucks" look so goofy.
• If you like ugly, this is it.
• Butt ugly
• Looks like a tree fell on a gay green goblin

The above looks like a List of Desperation from Business Insider to me. If they were not worried about a growing Cybertruck market, then they wouldn't bother to mention it in the first place. But, because the interest and anticipation is real, they are pushing desperate negativity instead of positive or substance focused messages of their own - of course that's familiar behavior by now isn't it? ...

Not saying there isn't anything wrong with the Cybertruck, as nothing is perfect especially when first produced. I'm sure there are tweaks, improvements or add-ons that can be made as people experience the Cybertruck more over time. But I'm betting overall people will realize it's an awesome vehicle with a lot of thoughtful engineering integrated into it.

- ÆCIII

 

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[jerhenderson]

I would be nice to see how long it takes for these naysayers to admit they were wrong.

they never will.... they'll go from 'vaporware' to 'demand issues' in the blink of a prostitutes eye.

 

[PilotPete]

Ok, the elephant in the room time.

The CT has unique styling. It is a polarizing design. It’s not going to please or attract everyone. Some people aren’t going to like the looks. That’s ok. I am far past the stage where I spend money to please other people! (Ended that when I got divorced, but that;s another story) And when I for saw the CT at the reveal, I wasn’t convinced. But at the time, I had never driven a BEV and knew nothing about Tesla, other than they somehow got a couple cars into a store upstairs at the mall. As the word gets out, and people experience the difference, more and more people will buy a BEV for either the economy and/or the performance, and for no other reason, and that’s ok! Some people are attached to seeing a front grille and a car/truck without one just looks wrong, and that’s ok. Because the styling of the CT is polarizing, some people are going to absolutely hate it, and that’s ok. As they say, there’s a butt for every seat.

Jay Leno was once asked about the future of EVs. He said that gas vehicles will always be around, Just like the horse. But that the car freed the horse from a needed tool, to a pet and part of the family status. Before, they were treated as transportation, now they are prized. One day, gas cars will be prized and treated like pets. And that’s ok.

I think that as the CT gets out on the road, more and more people will like it. It will become more of the “norm” and the tide will change. In the 1960’s Lucy and Ricky had to sleep in separate beds on TV. Now, well, two married people in bed is not even an event, we passed that up long ago. The CT will one day be just like that. No one will look twice and something even more radical will come. And people will say “Dang, that’s ugly…”

 

[FarAway]

One has to admit, some of those comments are VERY clever and funny. I enjoyed reading them. LOL.
(AS a Pontiac driver, I never saw the CT as a Pontiac Aztec but more as a Honda Ridgeline.)

An older article and not as much hate, but this always cracked me up, too.
Tesla vs. Zombies

 

[bjewell2006]

Did everyone see those hideous panel gaps and seams on the latest rollover test?! I mean, there was at least 1-2 cyber chicken toe width gap differences on the frunk and doors. The quality control issues are astounding.
source: somewhere in the interwebs
/s

 

[CYBRSMTH]

I've decided to start collecting all the naysayers' snark, so that we can revisit this annually for a good laugh.

Today's material comes from "TheDrive" article "Tesla Cybertruck Wrapped Like a Toyota Tundra Is Really Beating a Dead Horse" (we got a mention! LOL!):

• It's almost like the engineers took it as a challenge when someone jokingly said, "Hey, do you think it's possible to make a vehicle even uglier and less appealing than, say, a Pontiac Aztek??"
• And, I used to think the Pontiac Aztek about the ugliest thing on wheels.
• The truck is hideous. The only person who would even consider buying this is a collector, because this thing is going to go bust.
• Reminds me of another stainless steel vehicle that didn’t work out.
• The only reason it is on anyone's mind is because of the movies.
• Looks like a 4 year old's drawing of a car. And what's up with the raised slanted sides of the bed? Those are going to make it harder to load/unload.
• Pretentious people will buy it because they think they’re cool being the first out the gate, but after that dies down it’s going to fall by the wayside. Too many competitors coming up with way better design.
• It just looks dumb to me and I'm sure my opinion isn't popular but why does it look like something a 5 year old designed. Outside of the hype, of owning one because its so unique, it seems like another poorly built tesla.
• What do they want me to see? The fact that it's not as good as other offerings on the truck market? That their sloped side is too tall for side bed access?
• If anything, these wraps show all the ways in which this shape doesn't work for a truck.
• If Musk gave me one for free I would sell and get a Tundra, unless that little storage area was full of 50 dollar bills. Then I would drive it all over the states.
• Cybertruck Owner's Club... I guess there are zero members since no one owns one?
• What's the point of buying a pickup truck that has restricted cargo space and no headroom for rear passengers?
• So this is the modern day Pontiac Aztek?
• Stainless steel body panels are fantastic!! Until of course they get the tiniest ding, then you have to replace the whole panel because you can't just straighten out stainless. I really don't feel sorry for whoever buys one of those, they get what they deserve.
• Interesting. A vehicle pretending to be a truck dressed up like another vehicle pretending to be a truck.
• Remember the Simpsons episode where Homer's long lost half brother Herb finds him, and gets him to create a new car for the everyman, and Homer's design is so awful it puts Herb out of business? Yea, I'd take Homer's car over this piece of junk.
• People thought they were buying a hot new Tesla. Instead they got an ugly version of the old "Brat". This hidious thing is useless as a pickup truck. Used car dealers don't want them because the resale value will be a loss sale.
• Owners are going to love those blindspots.
• The tundra will drive for years with little to no issues long after the stainless steel panels are the only thing left of value on that tesla.
• They should release that hunk of junk already instead of dickering around that way it can get "properly" panned once people really get a load of it.
• The cybertruck looks like the third place winner at a middle school science fair.
• I think the Tesla designers and engineers need to go back to the drawing board for this "truck".
• Worst design ever. Makes the Aztec look amazing and normal
• The cybertruck is going to be the biggest flop product of the century. And i want to be a fan, i really do. But this design is just bogus.
• this tells you why proportion is so important. you put any good looking truck design into cybertruck it looks bad
• Are people ever going to wake up and realize EV's are the latest gimmick and does absolutely zero for the environment ?
• Is it a trans truck? Trying to identify as something it is not?
• My Tesla Model 3 is the best car ever built. I'm pretty sure the Cybertruck will carry on the tradition. No gas tank, no tail pipe. What's not to love?
• No matter how you wrapt it, it looks better than it did. What a design strike out. Sometimes Elon is too smart by 1/2.
• The wrap is because they trying to make it look like an ICE truck that people actually want. And there is another thing. If you buy an EV, you are sending money to Russia. EVs are funding their side of the War going on right now.
• This is Musk's sense of humor; He must have said, "I'll make anything and the public will buy it". The Cyber truck is proof that we'll buy anything Musk sells.
• Sorry Tesla, this truck is ugly. I don't design cars, but I approve designs for a clothing line. When I see a design that bothers my eyes I know it's wrong. This truck is one of those. If they want truck buyers, go back and redesign. Sometimes "different" is just weird not better.
• Ugly doesn't even cover it, I would be embarrassed to be seen driving it, did the engineer's get together and plan making the ugliest ever????
• Adding color make this design seem even more absurd than before.
• This THING is nothing but the newest incarnation of the Hummer and other such vehicles. Once the newness wears off, people will quickly realize this thing is as useless as it looks
• That is beyond ugly. It’s so incredibly ugly that I don’t understand.
• The Cyber Truck will evolve ..Tesla will make a Pick Up truck, In Texas.. most likely steel or aluminum ( lighter anyway ).. dropping the bullet proof windows, and of course a more “ conventional “ design .. Right now the Cyber Truck has over 1 million pre order interest .. let the market work…..
• So they are spending time creating and wrapping vehicles without having solved their own problems and sold one vehicle yet?
• Doesn't matter the wrap, the cybertruck still looks bad.
• one look at those tires and you know its not a "real" truck
• Why do the keep doing these wraps? Are just basically trying to subliminally convince us of what we already know? And that is not to buy the cyber Aztec or should i say Frankenstein DeLorean?
• My Toyota Tundra feels terribly insulted.
• Keep beating the Tesla cyber truck with an ugly stick is like trying to polish a turd.
• you can not just "band aid" ugly and not trying to be funny or sarcastic but I would not own that ugly creation even if "Musket" gave it to me for free! I would be embarrassed to be seen drive the ugly electric toy anywhere!
• Wow thats ugly
• i'd uber before i drove something that UGLY..
• i guess that's all the CT is good for, jokes.
• this doesn't look very nice.... just saying
• 100% hate this truck and hope it fails big time
• Putting lipstick on a pig.
• They have to keep doing this because its so dam ugly.
• These things are getting uglier by the day!
• Cartoonish and ridiculous, how many people are going to bang their heads getting into that back seat?
• Not very good looking
• you see that windshield, man it's huge
• The joke is on the Tesla buyer. I doubt Musk would even drive one.
• Wouldn't take a free one ??
• Does the wrap help contain the flames from the battery fire?
• Nah, the cybertruck wish it was the Tundra, you know one of those shoes at Walmart that wants to look like a Nike, but just isn't. Yeah that is the one.
• Well, why not, it couldn't get any fuglier.
• I'm shocked that they somehow managed to make that goofy Cybertruck look even worse...
• come on commoner! you know i am rich when i drive one.
• The cyber truck looks like the cars in Total Recall. Congrats Tesla, welcome to 1990’s vision of the future. Lol
• This is the Pontiac Aztek 2.0. Fuhhhgggllly.
• Anyone remember the Delorean? I didn't think so. Space Karen has 'jumped the shark.'
• So whoever wrapped it concedes that it is likely the ugliest vehicle ever made. Even the people who have made a deposit and tell us it is a great truck know better.
• Alright kids, Can you say Cyber Junk?
• I like the truck with color on it. The bare metal ones look like appliances. LOL
• They should sell them with that wrap. It makes them look a lot better.
• The performance of the Ford Lightening has taken all the wind out of CyberTruck potential.
• The huge front windshield + a giant wiper are beautiful design right?
• I’m not going to lie: this is the stupidest s. i have ever seen in my entire life.
• Good grief! Looks like something I might have drawn in third grade...and I can't draw a straight line with a ruler!!!
• Lame
• Still the ugliest vehicle ever
• Good luck fixing one in a wreck, and insuring one later
• It is Ugly Truck
• Of course they want it to look like any other truck so it is not so hideous.
• That windshield looks like a major headache to replace.
• And given it's layout, one can only image the debris that get kicked up into it
• WHAT were they thinking with that design?
• I don't care how aerodynamic it supposedly is. Its just bigger version of a Pontiac Aztek! Seriously, look it up!
• That sold HORRIBLY cause it was UGLY, and IMO so is this usless waste from Tesla.
• The ONLY thing it resembles is a Movie Prop???
• Cybertruck is Fug.ly
• Please stop calling that thing a truck. It has nothing in common with a truck in any way, shape, or form.
• I would not take one for free unless I could upsell it
• Wrap 4,000 lbs of garbage in a pink wrapper, it's still 4,000 lbs of garbage. Same thing with this ugly piece of junk.
• You wrap poop in in green plastic...It's still poop.
• He is trying to hide it when it goes dead on the road and he cant find a charge station.
• Ugly and not practical with the angled side bed panels,makes for blind spots and hard to tie down your tiny load ,..in its small bed .Terrible design...The Hot Wheels toy version might sell to children...no serious builder would ever buy one to use in construction..
• It's hideous. I would not call that a truck, looks more like a suv.
• That is the ugliest vehicle I've ever seen.
• Lol so ugly. Can’t believe people bought it. Hahahaha
• My Tundra would pull that cybertruck down the street!
• Is the second row only for Hobbits?
• What a huge Robocop SUX-2000 piece of junk looking thing.
• The design of the Cluster-Truck® is bigly ... ... ... !
• thats a truck? what will it haul a suit case
• Really doesn't look very useful as a truck
• LOL with how rich Musk is you would think he would have good designers, but this so-called truck is nothing but an ugly abomination. I wouldn't be caught dead in one.
• What a HORRIBLE looking car - It WILL Flop! I can't imagine WHO would purchase this Piece of - - - -...
• The ugliest truck ever designed and built.
• it just plain ugly and useless
• Wrap it anyway you want it's still a hideous beast....Only appeals to the "Look at me!" buyer
• Doesn’t matter how you dress it up, it is and always will be ugly.
• A joke and I just ??????
• I can't believe people were putting down payments on this hideous looking truck years ago and still waiting for it. Ridiculous!
• They are trying anything they can to make that Pile not look ugly

Not to be a naysayer (more of a potential hard truth), but there is a vibe going around the internet that the CyberTruck may be delayed again to meet Elon’s exacting standards mentioned in his latest email.

The last thing Elon’s wants is for the CyberTruck to be criticized for its poor build quality. This is something that Tesla has struggled with in the US, especially when ramping up the production of a vehicle.

The CTs that we’re seeing drive around are NOT production models. They’re production candidates, which means they’re still in the testing phase.

 

[ÆCIII]

I may understand why some try to call the Cybertruck "Ugly" in various vernaculars. It's a stark change compared to established automobile body styles. But I'm certainly 'all in' on the "futuristic" look of it, especially if the toughness of stainless and Armour glass demonstrated in the original reveal make it to final production.

Many of us also perceived the Cybertruck as "Ugly" shortly after the first reveal, but then it 'grew' on many of us as we embraced the overall futuristic look with the substance of strength and tech that the Cybertruck will offer.

But a lot of the public has still not paid much attention to the Cybertruck prototypes or candidates up to now, and they still won't really be noticing it until higher numbers of production samples delivered are seen on the road. When production samples start being delivered, much of the public will be just beginning to assimilate the new style and form their rationalizations or opinions, just as many of us did in 2019 and shortly after.

If I step outside of my thirst for the Cybertruck a moment, and pretend that I'm seeing the Cybertruck again for the very first time, I recall the parts of the Cybertruck which I thought were more "Ugly", versus the parts that looked futuristic. Basically I perceived that the vault sides and back tailgate having some trapezoid shapes that really jump out at you, with an appearance similar to a large dumpster bin or dust pan:

But, I think Tesla has significantly improved this in their newer Cybertruck design:

These design characteristics are also seen a lot by the public when approaching Cybertrucks from behind being hauled on a car carrier high up in their face, as video recorded with many of the recent sightings.

I was thinking of alternative design ideas for only the vault sides, that would break up the trapezoid shapes appearance a little with added surfaces and creases. These ideas would be a minimal alteration to the vault sides only. I'm fairly certain it could be done even with aftermarket add-ons, and to me might make the Cybertruck appear "less Ugly" to some. But if Tesla did it there would be the benefit of more internal space in the vault side walls for things like power or compressed air outlets.

The three renderings I've made below show some subtle creases and surfaces with added triangles at the rear of the vault sides. I think such an alteration 'breaks up' the appearance of trapezoid shape outlines some while adding definitive futuristic elements, but keeping with the Cybertruck design. Thoughts are welcome:

The renderings are based on the original prototypes as I didn't have 3D Model geometry for the latest release candidates, but I think they still illustrate the ideas adequately.

I'm not echoing any naysayer chorus crying for a 'total redesign' or anything as again, it's only a minor change idea for just the vault sides only.

I hope the Cybertruck is well received and I would like to see the Cybertruck scale successfully, with continual surges in demand. That's why I post such ideas which I think could possibly help support that outcome.

- ÆCIII

 

[wtibbit]

Another day, another article. This time, it's Business Insider's "Side-by-side photos show how much Tesla's Cybertruck has changed from Elon Musk's original designs".

We got another mention! Woo-hoo!

• Zero to 60 in 2.9 seconds. 3500 payload. 500 mile range. I must have missed it, but what automotive publication reported those results? Or are these the claims of Elon, who claimed the ugly thing would be on the market 3 years ago
• Electric vehicles are not "zero emission" in any way, they just move the emissions to different times and sources.
• People don't generally buy pickups for their 0 to 60 acceleration.
• The wraps definitely improve the look.
• Just a Reminder that Elon doesn’t have a workable, sellable truck despite lying for years that it was always next year.
• how could anyone think a wrap job on a tesla truck could make it look like a Ford F150 ? Or a Tundra.
• 500 mile range? Right. As long as you don’t tow anything, carry a load, or use the heater or ac. If you do, you can halve that number if you’re lucky.
• I got a c-note that says no deliveries will be made to the general public until next year. And it's 500 mile range is a figment of Elon's imagination. I recently moved 3200lbs in my ecodiesel 90 miles. I got 23mpg, made the round trip without fueling or stopping, except to load.
• They could sell those for $10k and it could get 5000 miles on one charge, I wouldn’t buy one because it’s UGLY
• Pretty much the most unsightly vehicle I've ever seen.
• It could corner the market? As it turns the corner make sure it's not flooding, too hot or freezing. E-cars don't do well in those conditions.
• Wow, those cybertrucks are not good looking vehicles.
• Looks like a bloated Aztec.
• It's still one of the ugliest vehicles on the rd and not practical at all
• I think it would be wise to discuss and set parameters of what a pickup truck is? This is a vehicle that is not available, and with appearances indicating it cannot carry a meaningful payload, or get out of town and return if loaded.
• Pickup trucks traditionally are designed for and used by working people, to get them where they need to be on time, without lolly gagging at a charging station. Yes there are some with comfort options but the core is still a truck.
• This vehicle is pure and simple a poser mobile and not a truck, yes I'm sure some will think they look studley in their loafers drinking a soy latte at a charging station, lol
• Can a CyperTruck tow 5,000 Lbs. for as great a distance as a Tundra? Thought not. Not even close.
• Looks nothing like a Tundra, but it is ugly.
• Not impressed!!
• In 25 years we are going to have a huge and devastating battery waste issue that will diminish any EV “eco savings”.
• With the weight [because of the batteries] already near the maximum for a pick up truck, I wonder just how much weight the kyber truq can carry?
• You can wrap that ugly thing with anything, but just like leopard, you can't change it's spots. As usual, much ado about nothing.
• If every single American was forced to scrap their gas cars, trucks, and SUVs and replace them with EVs the world's CO2 emissions would drop by only 1%. ONE percent! This would come at the environmental cost of the huge amount of mining and processing needed to make EV batteries.
• The absolute most gawdy lines ever produced on a vehicle. Horrible. The wrap doesn't look half bad. It hides that hideous profile.
• Can’t trust any of their claims on mileage anymore. Their reputation continues its slump downward.
• Not a vehicle for areas with a lot of snow. The back window would be impossible to see out of.
• One of the ugliest and useless "truck" I've ever seen.
• This thing looks horrible no matter how they wrap it.
• As much as I want one of the new Rivian trucks I am not convinced we don't have an electric grid issue in trying to produce the electricity in the first place to charge all them AND run society at the same time.
• That is one UGLY creation
• Yes you can reach 60 mph in 2.9 seconds and then you get stuck behind a car that goes the speed limit for 1 hour in a two-lane highway with solid lines.
• I guess people can never race, this truck or other teslas on a salt flat if it's a little wet, Because a couple days later it will be burned to the ground. That's when you say so...much for the environment.
• The tesla truck is the ugliest piece of junk ever. No wonder they dress it up to look like something else. I bet it almost has enough room to carry a few bags of groceries.
• That thing is just ugly
• Those things are so ugly. It's like driving a washing machine all boxy and square
• Yeeeeeeah, about the tailpipe, C02 is not pollution, it's literally plant food that is making the world greener. Inconvenient fact.
• Cars driving around dressed up like other cars. Not your fathers drag race.
• Can't wait to see result on the crash test, when you create teaser videos and does not show the actual damage, something is not right...
• without the wrap they are only worth half price . you can put lipstick on a pig but it will still be a pig .
• The fact that there's already an owners club for a vehicle not released yet tells you all you need to know?
• The cybertruck reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Homer's brother gives him carte blanche to design a new vehicle. It looked just about as ridiculous!
• Promises , Promises! I will believe them when I see them. Is the price even firmed up? There are a lot of unknowns, still.
• I think a windshield that slanted would have ripples looking through it, but then I drive a Model T.
• I'll believe it when i see it, what is the range when towing?
• The move to electric vehicles has little to do with pollution and everything to do with control. No different than covid masks.
• Tesla introduces the Ugly truck.
• Put 3,500 pounds in the back and it can probably go only 100 miles. Except there isn't enough room to put that much in the back.
• The Cybertruck looks like a DeLorean had a one night stand with a dumpster.
• lol, we farm, if we used that truck it'd be destroyed in like 1 hour. hahaha
• headline has the word tesla therefore you get tesla comments just give me the golden shovel with my truck, and don't park these things where it might flood, house fires and neighbors house won't stand a chance, florida 8/ 27/2023
• At the end of the day... the cyber truck "trolling" other trucks. Meanwhile, the cybertruck looks like something a 4th grader drew, is plagued with problems, is twice as expensive as all other trucks, poorly designed..... yeah. Great job trolling, tesla
• What's the troll? The cybertruck looks terrible. Putting those stickers on just underlines how hideous it actually is.
• People will not buy an EV if they look drastically different from other vehicles.
• Yeah, they'll probably have to discount the price of this one too once the fan bois stop buying.
• Hot acceleration is no big deal, 500 mile range? Let’s load one up and drive it around a city for a day
• 500 miles no chance maybe 200 maybe
• I key Tesla Douchemobiles.
• lets put 3500# behind that cyberchunk and see how far we can go.
• What's the point in disguising it with a wrap YEARS after you've revealed to the public what it looks like, lol.
• this has got to be one of the ugliest trucks ever designed, so what if it's electric, how do you charge it in the winter when the power goes out, good luck.
• If it's half as cheap as a Ford, I'd probably buy it and keep the wrap and pretend I am in a Ford.
• Oh, and here I was, thinking it was hauling cargo better or something actually useful. But no, they are talking about the color of wraps.
• All these wraps do is to remind people that the F-150 Lightning and Tundra are both better looking vehicles than the Cybertruck. Tesla is only trolling itself with wraps that remind potential customers how ugly the Cybertruck really is.
• We don’t even know the price yet on each model.
• Musk is afraid
• It's a novelty item, nothing more nothing less. It's not practical for a truck as what's the purpose for a truck? To be able to haul things in the bed of it, over the top of it on a lumber rack and to be able to pull dump trailers, car trailers, rv's etc. I don't remember EVER hearing that this thing has a 3500 lb pay load, a 500 mile range and seriously, why would anyone want to go from zero to 60 in 2.9 seconds. For what reason, the thrill? Just the fact that you can? Stupid, plus I still haven't heard what the cost of this "truck" is. There will be THOSE people who gotta have it, to be the first fools on the block to own one but I can guarantee you one thing, you won't find any of them on a work site because that's where the REAL TRUCKS will be.
• "Well .. we're waiting." Judge Smails.
• If they say a range of 500 miles, the real range is probably about half that, and then cut it in half again if you live up North
• I'm taking bets on the 500 mile range, I'm on the never gonna happen side.
• Maybe Tesla should focus on launching the Cybertruck on time time instead of trolling epic brands.
• When will Elon Musk finally resign or the board kick him out (just like he was kicked out of PayPal) so an actual adult can run the company?
• So basically it’s trying to take the crown as most annoying vehicle on the road. It’s going to take a lot to dethrone those ram trucks.
• Hideous
• Probably the worse looking truck ever made in the history of mankind.
• he could flat out give me one and i'd sell it.. i can't drive something that ugly..
• Typical Barbie Pick'em up Marketing Ploy taking the place of real industrial design.
• As the guy at Ford noted, it's a pick up for Silicon Valley Techies.
• Please stop calling it a truck. Such a joke.
• They can keep it. All over hyped Bull. Good luck on your charging at the job site.
• Looks interesting, but would not want to try to clean the windshield..
• Its stupid looking even without the wrap but I'm sure some dill weed will buy one.
• anybody want to race theirs against a R1T? i think the rivian would edge out a win... and it probably won't leak inside during a rainstorm...
• what did they name the thing? By the looks, Hideosity would be a good one.
• WAY too ugly for me! Even my old beater, '96 Mazda P/U looks better!
• Stop calling that abomination a pickup truck. It's nothing more than an upscaled Tonka truck.
• If I designed something that ugly, I'd be trying to wrap it with something good looking too.
• It's still just like putting lipstick on a swine.
• it's ugly.
• Trolling? How many have Tesla sold? Get back to me in 50 years when you catch up.
• Never been a fan of the Ford Fhaag 150 or the people who drive this Chinese made vehicle.
• That is the ugliest truck I have ever seen. I would be embarrassed to be seen in it!
• It's still ugly.
• I have illegal emissions delete kit on my power stroke. I enjoy rolling coal on all tesla drivers. It irks the heck out of them but I don't give a darn.
• Should hire an Ferrari designer for a better looking truck.
• Lipstick on a pig.....
• Still a lame vehicle.
• from i can see in that picture it looks like it might hold a suit case and i bet it wont get 500 miles on a charge musk likes to lie a little any way i would have the goofy looking piece of junk
• Just plane ugly,...useless as a truck,...for someone that wants attention
• Useless as a truck,...a fade for someone desperate for attention...
• Dear Soon-To-Be CyberTruck Drivers, please know that when you drive your truck down the street, 50% of people look at you will think you are "compensating" for a small... you know what; 50% think you have some weird attention-seeking complex, and probably 90% overall think you are just a silly jerk...
• still a garbage company with trash vehicles. i guarantee that trash heap cant even go make it over the rockies.
• Forkin argly
• That is one ugly looking truck, I don't care what it can do.
• Still ugly and useless.
• Worst looking truck l have ever seen
• This is one very, very, very ugly vehicle
• Just get rid of the black wheel fad. It looks like a stolen car when returned. Junk.
• That is a shame
• Now do a wrap trolling Lamborghini
• That guy is such a db
• Those "trucks" look so goofy.
• If you like ugly, this is it.
• Butt ugly
• Looks like a tree fell on a gay green goblin

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Not to be a naysayer (more of a potential hard truth), but there is a vibe going around the internet that the CyberTruck may be delayed again to meet Elon’s exacting standards mentioned in his latest email.

The last thing Elon’s wants is for the CyberTruck to be criticized for its poor build quality. This is something that Tesla has struggled with in the US, especially when ramping up the production of a vehicle.

The CTs that we’re seeing drive around are NOT production models. They’re production candidates, which means they’re still in the testing phase.

When you mention Tesla having ‘struggled’ with build quality and not saying that that was with early vehicles, or not providing proof (the build quality issues were gone by 2019 on Model 3) that this is a current problem, then you are being a naysayer. Own it.

 

[Crissa]

I may understand why some try to call the Cybertruck "Ugly" in various vernaculars. It's a stark change compared to established automobile body styles. But I'm certainly 'all in' on the "futuristic" look of it, especially if the toughness of stainless and Armour glass demonstrated in the original reveal make it final production.

Many of us also perceived the Cybertruck as "Ugly" shortly after the first reveal, but then it 'grew' on many of us as we embraced the overall futuristic look with the substance of strength and tech that the Cybertruck will offer.

But much of the public has still not paid much attention to the Cybertruck prototypes or candidates up to now, and they still won't really be noticing it until higher numbers of production samples delivered are seen on the road. When production samples start being delivered, much of the public will be just beginning to assimilate the new style and form their rationalizations or opinions, just as many of us did in 2019 and shortly after.

If I step outside of my thirst for the Cybertruck a moment, and pretend that I'm seeing the Cybertruck again for the very first time, I recall the parts of the Cybertruck which I thought were more "Ugly", versus the parts that looked futuristic. Basically I perceived that the vault sides and back tailgate having some trapezoid shapes that really jump out at you, with an appearance similar to a large dumpster bin or dust pan:

But, I think Tesla has significantly improved this in their newer Cybertruck design:

These design characteristics are also seen a lot by the public when approaching Cybertrucks from behind being hauled on a car carrier high up in their face, as video recorded with many of the recent sightings.

I was thinking of alternative design ideas for only the vault sides, that would break up the trapezoid shapes appearance a little with added surfaces and creases. These ideas would be a minimal alteration to the vault sides only. I'm fairly certain it could be done even with aftermarket add-ons, and to me might make the Cybertruck appear "less Ugly" to some. But if Tesla did it there would be the benefit of more internal space in the vault side walls for things like power or compressed air outlets.

The three renderings I've made below show some subtle creases and surfaces with added triangles at the rear of the vault sides. I think such an alteration 'breaks up' the appearance of trapezoid shape outlines some while adding definitive futuristic elements, but keeping with the Cybertruck design. Thoughts are welcome:

The renderings are based on the original prototypes as I didn't have 3D Model geometry for the latest release candidates, but I think they still illustrate the ideas adequately.

I'm not echoing any naysayer chorus crying for a 'total redesign' or anything as again, it's only a minor change idea for just the vault sides only.

I hope the Cybertruck is well received and I would like to see the Cybertruck scale successfully, with continual surges in demand. That's why I post such ideas which I think could possibly help support that outcome.

- ÆCIII

The original prototype had some straight lines across it the release candidate doesn't have. By tucking in the bottom rear and creating a hexagonal shape - nature's bestagon - you've leaned into that and made something more natural feeling without violating the 'fewer creases' rule.

-Crissa

 

[ÆCIII]

Another day, another article. This time, it's Business Insider's "Side-by-side photos show how much Tesla's Cybertruck has changed from Elon Musk's original designs".

We got another mention! Woo-hoo!

• Zero to 60 in 2.9 seconds. 3500 payload. 500 mile range. I must have missed it, but what automotive publication reported those results? Or are these the claims of Elon, who claimed the ugly thing would be on the market 3 years ago
• Electric vehicles are not "zero emission" in any way, they just move the emissions to different times and sources.
• People don't generally buy pickups for their 0 to 60 acceleration.
• The wraps definitely improve the look.
• Just a Reminder that Elon doesn’t have a workable, sellable truck despite lying for years that it was always next year.
• how could anyone think a wrap job on a tesla truck could make it look like a Ford F150 ? Or a Tundra.
• 500 mile range? Right. As long as you don’t tow anything, carry a load, or use the heater or ac. If you do, you can halve that number if you’re lucky.
• I got a c-note that says no deliveries will be made to the general public until next year. And it's 500 mile range is a figment of Elon's imagination. I recently moved 3200lbs in my ecodiesel 90 miles. I got 23mpg, made the round trip without fueling or stopping, except to load.
• They could sell those for $10k and it could get 5000 miles on one charge, I wouldn’t buy one because it’s UGLY
• Pretty much the most unsightly vehicle I've ever seen.
• It could corner the market? As it turns the corner make sure it's not flooding, too hot or freezing. E-cars don't do well in those conditions.
• Wow, those cybertrucks are not good looking vehicles.
• Looks like a bloated Aztec.
• It's still one of the ugliest vehicles on the rd and not practical at all
• I think it would be wise to discuss and set parameters of what a pickup truck is? This is a vehicle that is not available, and with appearances indicating it cannot carry a meaningful payload, or get out of town and return if loaded.
• Pickup trucks traditionally are designed for and used by working people, to get them where they need to be on time, without lolly gagging at a charging station. Yes there are some with comfort options but the core is still a truck.
• This vehicle is pure and simple a poser mobile and not a truck, yes I'm sure some will think they look studley in their loafers drinking a soy latte at a charging station, lol
• Can a CyperTruck tow 5,000 Lbs. for as great a distance as a Tundra? Thought not. Not even close.
• Looks nothing like a Tundra, but it is ugly.
• Not impressed!!
• In 25 years we are going to have a huge and devastating battery waste issue that will diminish any EV “eco savings”.
• With the weight [because of the batteries] already near the maximum for a pick up truck, I wonder just how much weight the kyber truq can carry?
• You can wrap that ugly thing with anything, but just like leopard, you can't change it's spots. As usual, much ado about nothing.
• If every single American was forced to scrap their gas cars, trucks, and SUVs and replace them with EVs the world's CO2 emissions would drop by only 1%. ONE percent! This would come at the environmental cost of the huge amount of mining and processing needed to make EV batteries.
• The absolute most gawdy lines ever produced on a vehicle. Horrible. The wrap doesn't look half bad. It hides that hideous profile.
• Can’t trust any of their claims on mileage anymore. Their reputation continues its slump downward.
• Not a vehicle for areas with a lot of snow. The back window would be impossible to see out of.
• One of the ugliest and useless "truck" I've ever seen.
• This thing looks horrible no matter how they wrap it.
• As much as I want one of the new Rivian trucks I am not convinced we don't have an electric grid issue in trying to produce the electricity in the first place to charge all them AND run society at the same time.
• That is one UGLY creation
• Yes you can reach 60 mph in 2.9 seconds and then you get stuck behind a car that goes the speed limit for 1 hour in a two-lane highway with solid lines.
• I guess people can never race, this truck or other teslas on a salt flat if it's a little wet, Because a couple days later it will be burned to the ground. That's when you say so...much for the environment.
• The tesla truck is the ugliest piece of junk ever. No wonder they dress it up to look like something else. I bet it almost has enough room to carry a few bags of groceries.
• That thing is just ugly
• Those things are so ugly. It's like driving a washing machine all boxy and square
• Yeeeeeeah, about the tailpipe, C02 is not pollution, it's literally plant food that is making the world greener. Inconvenient fact.
• Cars driving around dressed up like other cars. Not your fathers drag race.
• Can't wait to see result on the crash test, when you create teaser videos and does not show the actual damage, something is not right...
• without the wrap they are only worth half price . you can put lipstick on a pig but it will still be a pig .
• The fact that there's already an owners club for a vehicle not released yet tells you all you need to know?
• The cybertruck reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Homer's brother gives him carte blanche to design a new vehicle. It looked just about as ridiculous!
• Promises , Promises! I will believe them when I see them. Is the price even firmed up? There are a lot of unknowns, still.
• I think a windshield that slanted would have ripples looking through it, but then I drive a Model T.
• I'll believe it when i see it, what is the range when towing?
• The move to electric vehicles has little to do with pollution and everything to do with control. No different than covid masks.
• Tesla introduces the Ugly truck.
• Put 3,500 pounds in the back and it can probably go only 100 miles. Except there isn't enough room to put that much in the back.
• The Cybertruck looks like a DeLorean had a one night stand with a dumpster.
• lol, we farm, if we used that truck it'd be destroyed in like 1 hour. hahaha
• headline has the word tesla therefore you get tesla comments just give me the golden shovel with my truck, and don't park these things where it might flood, house fires and neighbors house won't stand a chance, florida 8/ 27/2023
• At the end of the day... the cyber truck "trolling" other trucks. Meanwhile, the cybertruck looks like something a 4th grader drew, is plagued with problems, is twice as expensive as all other trucks, poorly designed..... yeah. Great job trolling, tesla
• What's the troll? The cybertruck looks terrible. Putting those stickers on just underlines how hideous it actually is.
• People will not buy an EV if they look drastically different from other vehicles.
• Yeah, they'll probably have to discount the price of this one too once the fan bois stop buying.
• Hot acceleration is no big deal, 500 mile range? Let’s load one up and drive it around a city for a day
• 500 miles no chance maybe 200 maybe
• I key Tesla Douchemobiles.
• lets put 3500# behind that cyberchunk and see how far we can go.
• What's the point in disguising it with a wrap YEARS after you've revealed to the public what it looks like, lol.
• this has got to be one of the ugliest trucks ever designed, so what if it's electric, how do you charge it in the winter when the power goes out, good luck.
• If it's half as cheap as a Ford, I'd probably buy it and keep the wrap and pretend I am in a Ford.
• Oh, and here I was, thinking it was hauling cargo better or something actually useful. But no, they are talking about the color of wraps.
• All these wraps do is to remind people that the F-150 Lightning and Tundra are both better looking vehicles than the Cybertruck. Tesla is only trolling itself with wraps that remind potential customers how ugly the Cybertruck really is.
• We don’t even know the price yet on each model.
• Musk is afraid
• It's a novelty item, nothing more nothing less. It's not practical for a truck as what's the purpose for a truck? To be able to haul things in the bed of it, over the top of it on a lumber rack and to be able to pull dump trailers, car trailers, rv's etc. I don't remember EVER hearing that this thing has a 3500 lb pay load, a 500 mile range and seriously, why would anyone want to go from zero to 60 in 2.9 seconds. For what reason, the thrill? Just the fact that you can? Stupid, plus I still haven't heard what the cost of this "truck" is. There will be THOSE people who gotta have it, to be the first fools on the block to own one but I can guarantee you one thing, you won't find any of them on a work site because that's where the REAL TRUCKS will be.
• "Well .. we're waiting." Judge Smails.
• If they say a range of 500 miles, the real range is probably about half that, and then cut it in half again if you live up North
• I'm taking bets on the 500 mile range, I'm on the never gonna happen side.
• Maybe Tesla should focus on launching the Cybertruck on time time instead of trolling epic brands.
• When will Elon Musk finally resign or the board kick him out (just like he was kicked out of PayPal) so an actual adult can run the company?
• So basically it’s trying to take the crown as most annoying vehicle on the road. It’s going to take a lot to dethrone those ram trucks.
• Hideous
• Probably the worse looking truck ever made in the history of mankind.
• he could flat out give me one and i'd sell it.. i can't drive something that ugly..
• Typical Barbie Pick'em up Marketing Ploy taking the place of real industrial design.
• As the guy at Ford noted, it's a pick up for Silicon Valley Techies.
• Please stop calling it a truck. Such a joke.
• They can keep it. All over hyped Bull. Good luck on your charging at the job site.
• Looks interesting, but would not want to try to clean the windshield..
• Its stupid looking even without the wrap but I'm sure some dill weed will buy one.
• anybody want to race theirs against a R1T? i think the rivian would edge out a win... and it probably won't leak inside during a rainstorm...
• what did they name the thing? By the looks, Hideosity would be a good one.
• WAY too ugly for me! Even my old beater, '96 Mazda P/U looks better!
• Stop calling that abomination a pickup truck. It's nothing more than an upscaled Tonka truck.
• If I designed something that ugly, I'd be trying to wrap it with something good looking too.
• It's still just like putting lipstick on a swine.
• it's ugly.
• Trolling? How many have Tesla sold? Get back to me in 50 years when you catch up.
• Never been a fan of the Ford Fhaag 150 or the people who drive this Chinese made vehicle.
• That is the ugliest truck I have ever seen. I would be embarrassed to be seen in it!
• It's still ugly.
• I have illegal emissions delete kit on my power stroke. I enjoy rolling coal on all tesla drivers. It irks the heck out of them but I don't give a darn.
• Should hire an Ferrari designer for a better looking truck.
• Lipstick on a pig.....
• Still a lame vehicle.
• from i can see in that picture it looks like it might hold a suit case and i bet it wont get 500 miles on a charge musk likes to lie a little any way i would have the goofy looking piece of junk
• Just plane ugly,...useless as a truck,...for someone that wants attention
• Useless as a truck,...a fade for someone desperate for attention...
• Dear Soon-To-Be CyberTruck Drivers, please know that when you drive your truck down the street, 50% of people look at you will think you are "compensating" for a small... you know what; 50% think you have some weird attention-seeking complex, and probably 90% overall think you are just a silly jerk...
• still a garbage company with trash vehicles. i guarantee that trash heap cant even go make it over the rockies.
• Forkin argly
• That is one ugly looking truck, I don't care what it can do.
• Still ugly and useless.
• Worst looking truck l have ever seen
• This is one very, very, very ugly vehicle
• Just get rid of the black wheel fad. It looks like a stolen car when returned. Junk.
• That is a shame
• Now do a wrap trolling Lamborghini
• That guy is such a db
• Those "trucks" look so goofy.
• If you like ugly, this is it.
• Butt ugly
• Looks like a tree fell on a gay green goblin

For 'humor', I actually took time to read through all these instead of just scan or glimpse over them as I had earlier.

I must say there is a lot of legacy auto shill desperation in there!

It's really a variant of a known mental condition and can be aptly referred to as
Cybertruck Derangement Syndrome (CDS) .

- ÆCIII

 

[PilotPete]

It's really a variant of a known mental condition and can be aptly referred to as
Cybertruck Derangement Syndrome (CDS) .

- ÆCIII

According to the DSM-V, the condition is properly caused by a self-induced belief that the CT has some bizarre connection with the legacy market. It is a self-induced confusion brought about by a mental deficiency where the patient is unable to think outside a box given to him by the media and the “big 3”.

As a result, the DSM-V calls it CyberTruck Confusion Syndrome or (wait for It)…

CCS
​

And the curative treatment is known as Naysayers Anti-Confusion Surgery or…

NACS
​

According to recent press releases, NACS won’t be widely used outside the Tesla community until 2025, so I’m afraid this condition is going to last for a while.

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