Positive Range Report: 1000+ miles @ 280 miles average range, 440Wh/mi consumption - Houston, TX

[Gigahorse]

Good point! The range results posted in this thread are from a Houston Cybertruck owner, and here was Houston's temperatures for the last 7 days -- pretty cold for Houston.

Definitely winter time!
A good chunk of tests are coming from TX and CA though so lets be honest, for those of us who have lived up north that is not really winter

Most recent tow test was between 48-58f which is not summer weather but pretty warm for this time of year.

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[drrjv]

Outside temperature and wind play just as much as speed through. So many variables.

True but it averages out over the year and probably less of an issue of those in sunny California ?

Here are my stats over the last 12 months with average energy used and temps plotted.

 

[GhostAndSkater]

 

[drrjv]

Good point! The range results posted in this thread are from a Houston Cybertruck owner, and here was Houston's temperatures for the last 7 days -- pretty cold for Houston.

January 2024 has been a cold month ?

So far, this month with my 2018 M3P, I'm getting 346 Wh/Mile, 72% Efficiency with Avg Temp of 37. My overall averages for the year (last 12 full months) are 316 Wh/Mile, 79% Efficiency and Avg Temp 62. Would love to see stats from a CT on TeslaFi for comparison please.

 

[Bkb13]

Let’s say you drive 25 miles and it takes you 40 minutes. Let’s say that 20 of those 25 miles is on the freeway. And let’s say you are at a perfect 65mph the whole time. This is going to take you 19 minutes. Now let’s say you do 30 mph on the surface streets for the remaining 5 miles. That’s going to take you 10 minutes. So you have spent 29 minutes on the road, and gone 25 miles. Now add in 10 red stoplights at an average of 1 minute each (and in any big city, there is a stoplight an average of every 1/4 mi for 20 stoplights in this distance), which gives you 10 minutes of delay, added to the 32 minutes of moving, and you get 39 minutes to drive 25 miles, with an average (constant) freeway speed of 65mph. Believe it or not, it is not that easy to average even 60mph. Stop for one minute, and you have to get a far faster speed between stops. Add in the accel/decel and you are easily at 40 minutes. And for context, jumping the speed up to 75 on the freeway cuts less than 3 minutes off the time.

I don’t see any embellishment, except that they could do ”most of the drive” at 65 probably wishful thinking, if anything!

This is a perfect explanation. Thanks @PilotPete

 

[Bkb13]

Based on how the titles of all these other threads work, the title of this thread should be something like, "Real World Test Proves Average Range of 376 Miles." No matter what all the other supplemental data shows, stay with the most extreme result as the title. That's what the other threads do. ?

to that extent….

Cybertruck has 1,892 miles of range!

 

[Bkb13]

honestly, this has to be a known “cost” of the roll-out timing for Tesla

anyone who’s been on EV forums knows that this time of year is when there’s a spike of new members joining to say “I just got my first EV” or “I just got my first [model EV],” combined with “I think I got a lemon!?”


between preconditioning, HVAC use, and air density/drag, the winter is when the efficiency differences between BEV and ICE are most pronounced.

especially amongst those least familiar with BEVs, or in this case - people who only know BEV sedans and are not yet aware that BEV trucks have further / unique considerations

So what you’re saying is I need a buddy heater for the winters. It’s like a deer blind!

 

[Bkb13]

Agree. I posted this on the other range thread that seemed to have died out.

70 mph(out of spec test)
42 deg
490 wh/mi
250 miles

75 mph (guess)
42 deg
520 wh/mi
236 miles

80 - 85 mph. (latest What’s inside family youtube)
42 deg
590 wh/mi
207 miles

It looks like ~380 wh/mi is needed to hit the target EPA range of 320 miles. Maybe in 70 degree weather going about 70?

@cvalue13 has done a ton of education on the topic of EPA. My biggest takeaway was it’s a mix of city and highway driving and very specific speeds and conditions.

 

[Bkb13]

I agree lets take the emotion out ofbit and use math. A positive range test > EPA*. A negative range test < EPA*. What does it take to beat the EPA* range estimate? Has anyone done better than -13%?

I don’t think that’s the case. Positive to me is within the average usage. No one I’ve seen has beat the EPA numbers. I don’t think that’s necessary to be positive. I think these ridiculous out of the bell curve extreme limits tests are “negative” and clouding everyone’s expectations.

 

[Bkb13]

January 2024 has been a cold month ?

So far, this month with my 2018 M3P, I'm getting 346 Wh/Mile, 72% Efficiency with Avg Temp of 37. My overall averages for the year (last 12 full months) are 316 Wh/Mile, 79% Efficiency and Avg Temp 62. Would love to see stats from a CT on TeslaFi for comparison please.

So 9.5% less Wh/mi (30/316). It would be interesting to see if these Cybertruck numbers go up by 9% also…

 

[Baldyloxx]

Have you actually driven from 100%SOC down to 20%SOC?

Keep your “0-60 in 4.1 second ant every stoplight” and your “I’m towing a parachute” range reports out of this thread. Let’s see some reasonable range reports.

Interesting 1000 miles report from Houston.

“
After 1,000 miles, our range has been much better than what some viral content has shown. We just did a typical daily commute test and averaged 376 miles range. The drive was 25 miles, took 40 minutes, and we consumed 327 Wh/mi. The truck was on chill mode and most of the drive was around 65mph on the freeway.

After 1,000 miles our average range has been about 280 miles with a consumption rate of 440Wh/mi. That has been mostly on standard acceleration mode.

The cost in electricity to go over 1,000 miles has been less than $100. We charge mostly at home with a rate of $0.15/kWh. A small 10% of our charging was free at a local movie theatre.

Just like any car, how you drive effects your energy consumption.
“

Source:

 

[Bkb13]

Another decent range report from @c18zyxt

range from 262 miles to 292 miles.

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...ant-and-my-consumption-is-not-599wh-mi.11640/

Note: I park the truck outside all the time. And I drove 50 freeway (80mph)/50 local (55mph)for the past few days.

 

[cvalue13]

I think these ridiculous out of the bell curve extreme limits tests are “negative” and clouding everyone’s expectations.

thing is, it’s not exactly that they’re “out of the bell curve”

if a person is going to eg tow a hummer on a flatbed in 50° weather, without over inflating tires, and aspires to travel at 70mph whenever possible, THAT result will be well within THAT bell curve

if instead a person aspires to do a freeway run in “chill” soft wear mode, averaging 65mph, in 70° weather, and zero payload. THAT result will be well within THAT bell curve.


But at the level of the entire population and all miles considered, agree these sorts of use cases are instead in the tails of the overall bell curve. Because THAT bell curve is VASTLY comprised of daily in-town driving with nightly refills, where range is essentially irrelevant - if not markedly superior in a BEV.



I continue to the think the analogy of a long distance runner is apt. The EPA figures are analogous to timed competitions in an indoor long distance track meet. Conversely, these “real world” results we see are actual average times from real runners. It’s just that they range, at an individual level, from a 23yo getting 9hrs of sleep a/ proper nutrition on a flat course, to a 45yo running on 5hrs of sleep eating whatever on a hilly course.

If a person in the sidelines is also a runner or thinking about running, andlooks at one of these runners and says, “I’m also 45yo, I also have poor sleep hygiene, and I also want to eat whatever I want - then they’re looking at “real world” results they should also expect.

But looking at the general population? Shit, we all just try to get in 10K steps a day a best, ain’t no thang.

 

[cvalue13]

Another decent range report from @c18zyxt

range from 262 miles to 292 miles.

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...ant-and-my-consumption-is-not-599wh-mi.11640/

@c18zyxt can you show the time metric for those trips? Helps to have average speed info.

 

[Macgreiner]

I think one of the learning pieces of all this for Tesla is time your next product launch for summer.

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