Range Extender now costs $2000 to reserve for Non Foundation Series Cybertruck

[VAF84]

Maybe.

the 16k is estimated.

It already has less range than the original. I suppose that's because the Non-FS has less range than the FS.

Also, I saw it moved from early 2025 to mid-2025. Knowing Tesla, mid-2025 means December release and rollout in 2026.

Basically the same assumptions I've made.

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[mongo]

Yet they apparently expect the buyer to make a firm commitment, with a $2,000 non-refundable deposit. Does this mean that anyone placing that deposit is committed to purchase whatever Tesla delivers -- regardless of the final price, specifications, delivery date, or installation fee?

No, it means Tesla gets to keep your reservation payment even if you choose to not buy the range extender.
Non-refundable helps to show what true demand is, versus a refundable "maybe I'll get it, maybe not" level of commitment.

 

[Tinker71]

Whaaat? The non FS AWD has less range than the FS AWD? Is there a difference or did they just derate the non FS a little? Or was someone misinformed?

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Wasn’t it always $2000? I was one of the rare people who wasn’t able to reserve it because they turned it off for some reason in July when I ordered and took delivery.

It was $500 non refundable.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

From the Order page=

Seems like there are no firm commitments from the seller here as to the price, the range, or the availability date. It's also not clear whether installation is included in the price.

Yet they apparently expect the buyer to make a firm commitment, with a $2,000 non-refundable deposit. Does this mean that anyone placing that deposit is committed to purchase whatever Tesla delivers -- regardless of the final price, specifications, delivery date, or installation fee?

No, it just means that if you don’t buy it say goodbye to that deposit.

 

[Crissa]

Whaaat? The non FS AWD has less range than the FS AWD? Is there a difference or did they just derate the non FS a little? Or was someone misinformed?

One is 'estimated' the other is 'epa range'. It's probably just that they didn't update the web page they were going to retire soon.

-Crissa

 

[Sjohnson20]

I just did a 600 mile trip yesterday and stopped at 3 superchargers. I didn't even need to charge 3 times but I had to take a pee so just decided to plug in. I was getting about 400 Whs on the highway using the auto max speed. I'm pretty happy with the trucks efficiency considering it's size.

 

[Crissa]

I just did a 600 mile trip yesterday and stopped at 3 superchargers. I didn't even need to charge 3 times but I had to take a pee a couple times so just decided to plug in. I was getting about 400 Whs on the highway using the auto max speed. I'm pretty happy with the trucks efficiency considering it's size.

If someone is towing, or powering a worksite, it may make sense to carry all that extra battery around.

-Crissa

 

[YDR37]

No, it means Tesla gets to keep your reservation payment even if you choose to not buy the range extender.
Non-refundable helps to show what true demand is, versus a refundable "maybe I'll get it, maybe not" level of commitment.

You can't measure the "true demand" for a product, if you can't even define what the product is.

Here is what Tesla says about the Range Extender: "Maybe it will cost $16,000, or maybe not; maybe it will deliver 445+ miles of range, or maybe not; maybe it will be available in mid-2025, or maybe not; maybe there will be an installation charge, or maybe not."

Given this uncertainty, "maybe I'll get it, or maybe not" seems like the most rational customer response.

Look, if a manufacturer wants a large non-refundable deposit for an expensive, specialized piece of equipment, that's perfectly reasonable -- as long as the customers understand what they are getting, what it will ultimately cost, and when it will be delivered.

But with the Range Extender, customers are supposed to provide large non-refundable deposits without any clear definition of price, added range, or availability. That seems less reasonable, especially given that Tesla's past history at forecasting Cybertruck prices, ranges, and availability has been ... less than perfect.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

I just did a 600 mile trip yesterday and stopped at 3 superchargers. I didn't even need to charge 3 times but I had to take a pee so just decided to plug in. I was getting about 400 Whs on the highway using the auto max speed. I'm pretty happy with the trucks efficiency considering it's size.

You meant to type 400 Wh/mile, right? That doesn't sound great. My lifetime average, so far, is 365 Wh/mile.

 

[YDR37]

No, it just means that if you don’t buy it say goodbye to that deposit.

OK, I stand corrected. So if you place a deposit on a Range Extender, you will actually have two options in the future:

(1) go through with the purchase of whatever Tesla delivers -- regardless of the final price, specifications, delivery date, or installation fee, none of which are clearly defined at this time; or

(2) don't go through with the purchase, and forfeit $2,000.

Is there a downside to not placing a deposit now, and waiting for more details before making a financial commitment?

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

OK, so if you place a deposit on a Range Extender, you will actually have two options:

(1) go through with the purchase of whatever Tesla delivers -- regardless of the final price, specifications, delivery date, or installation fee, none of which are clearly defined at this time; or

(2) don't go through with the purchase, and forfeit $2,000.

Is there a downside to not placing a deposit, and waiting for more details?

Yes, if you actually have a need for it, because those with FS deposits ($500) will be fulfilled first, followed by non-FS deposits, and then Tesla will open up orders to others. So you could add that additional unknown delay to the existing unknown production ramp.

I wonder what will happen to our deposits if Tesla decides not to build the range extender.

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