Screen Mounted Phone Charger - Power Cable Routing?

[Cyber_95]

For those that have purchased one of the many screen mounted phone chargers, how are you routing the cable back to power? Has anyone found a way to get the power cord down to the floor from underneath the screen without completely disassembling the dash?

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[batlag]

Watching thread. I’m tired of my cable running down the front of the lower dash area.

 

[ÆCIII]

Tesla provides hands-free connectivity for voice calls, and even audio interfaces for texting so that drivers can keep their eyes on the road for safety. Tesla has also optimized it's screen U/I to be minimally distracting from attention to the road (speed indication at upper left corner requiring minimal eye movement, integration of voice commands, etc.).

Once FSD autonomy has reached level 4½ or 5, I could care less - but right now Tesla has clearly stated that drivers are fully responsible for taking over at any time to assure car is avoiding all pedestrians and obstacles.

What is so emotionally important on a phone screen requiring that eyes and attention must be diverted away from road and driving immediately at a given instant? Why can't a phone be kept in pocket or out of sight until the destination is reached, especially after all Tesla has done to integrate hands free functionality to promote safety?

What is so critically important requiring a phone to be directly next to a screen? Focusing to try and see small U/I icons or words on a phone is also going to cause even more delays in attention to the road. Tesla has also made it clear with later versions of FSD, that even staring at the Tesla U/I screen for too long is not acceptable, as many drivers using FSD have received the beep and that infamous "Pay Attention to the Road" prompt on screen. Texting and driving is also illegal in most U.S. states for all drivers:

https://www.carinsurance.com/Articles/cellphone-laws-and-penalties-by-state.aspx​

Clip 14 of this video by Wham Bam TeslaCam shows how someone attempted to fiddle with navigation on their phone while driving a rented Tesla, ironically when the Tesla already has navigation that's far superior to anything provided on a small screen of a phone (time index 1:14 if the link doesn't start at that point):

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- ÆCIII

 

[Pops]

Tesla provides hands-free connectivity for voice calls, and even audio interfaces for texting so that drivers can keep their eyes on the road for safety. Tesla has also optimized it's screen U/I to be minimally distracting from attention to the road (speed indication at upper left corner requiring minimal eye movement, integration of voice commands, etc.).

What is the difference between a phone and the using the Tesla navigation?

Assuming you have a phone mount, both:

• Use capacitive screens
• Can be used purely with voice commands (hands free)
• Users should have muscle memory for both devices
• Give verbal directions

Using a phone for navigating while driving with a mount is no more dangerous than using the OEM car screen. It might even be safer if you mount it closer to your line of sight of the road.

But you might have a point in that using the car's screen is also dangerous. A Euro safety agency says car touch screens are unsafe, and recommends buttons for controls. There might even be regulation around this in the future.

The contradiction is that you can't use a phone for safety reasons, but if the screen is attached to the dashboard it's suddenly safe?

 

[ÆCIII]

What is the difference between a phone and the using the Tesla navigation?

Assuming you have a phone mount, both:

• Use capacitive screens
• Can be used purely with voice commands (hands free)
• Users should have muscle memory for both devices
• Give verbal directions

Using a phone for navigating while driving with a mount is no more dangerous than using the OEM car screen. It might even be safer if you mount it closer to your line of sight of the road.

But you might have a point in that using the car's screen is also dangerous. A Euro safety agency says car touch screens are unsafe, and recommends buttons for controls. There might even be regulation around this in the future.

The contradiction is that you can't use a phone for safety reasons, but if the screen is attached to the dashboard it's suddenly safe?

Phone screen is much smaller thus has smaller fonts, icons, details, and information requiring more close in focus with the eyes and concentration delays of attention, but I pointed this out in the reply. Car's screen is much easier to read and has only car functions with a U/I designed specific for safety, with no distracting unnecessary functions available while driving.

A phone has a myriad of apps which can dangerously distract and still operate while in motion. Hands free audio for calls is available without needing to mount the phone anywhere, as it can be in one's pocket, in the console, or out of sight. So there is no benefit to mounting a phone when voice commands can reach it via blue tooth connectivity, and information is relayed back to the Tesla screen in a larger, easier to read safer format.

Phone distractions are causing more and more unnecessary accidents, which is why most states ban cell phone texting while driving. There is no value adding benefit from mounting a phone for access while driving, that would justify compromising safety.

- ÆCIII

 

[XCeilidhX]

Personally I hate the Tesla GPS navigation. It tells me what to do way too late to change lanes in heavy traffic, and it doesn't display what lane I should be in for the next maneuver until you are way past the point where you can get to where it wants you to be in many cases.

I have a very significant preference for Waze over the Tesla navigation which after 11 years and 132K mi on my Model S is my biggest gripe about my car.

I'll be mounting a small tablet or something to run Waze on my CB when I get it even though I will be getting FSD. I enjoy driving and often eschew cruise control for manual it's-all-on-me mode even on the longest road trips but the Tesla GPS is just way too late with the details for my taste so I run Waze in parallel.

FWIW

Cheers

 

[Cyber_95]

I followed the instructions from TSportline in their mounting video. I guess the best I can do until I'm sufficiently motivated to take down the dash panel.

 

[WhoWhatWhere]

What is the difference between a phone and the using the Tesla navigation?

Assuming you have a phone mount, both:

• Use capacitive screens
• Can be used purely with voice commands (hands free)
• Users should have muscle memory for both devices
• Give verbal directions

Using a phone for navigating while driving with a mount is no more dangerous than using the OEM car screen. It might even be safer if you mount it closer to your line of sight of the road.

But you might have a point in that using the car's screen is also dangerous. A Euro safety agency says car touch screens are unsafe, and recommends buttons for controls. There might even be regulation around this in the future.

The contradiction is that you can't use a phone for safety reasons, but if the screen is attached to the dashboard it's suddenly safe?

No Waze

 

[WhoWhatWhere]

It's a shame that Tesla didn't incorporate similar interiors like in the S3XY where the phone is just under the screen. It's in a pretty ideal location. The CT interior needs a rework with a similar set-up.

 

[w24i7ll365y]

Let’s remember that I’m an adult who purchased a $100,000 vehicle. I use Waze in my Tesla, in my 40,000-pound RV, and in my 30,000-pound work truck, all of which I own. I’m fully capable of deciding which navigation system to use, whether it’s on my device or the Tesla screen.

I’ve maxed out the positive score on my driver’s license and have been driving for nearly 40 years without anyone’s input. I don’t need a keyboard warrior trying to parent me.

The original post was about routing power cables. If you don’t have any advice on that, you might want to follow your mother’s advice and keep quiet.

Feel free to start as many threads as you like about how you think we should drive, or what some statistic suggests is best. But I’ve been driving in the Washington, DC Metro area for over 25 years, and through that time, Interstate 66 has had the same rules inside the Beltway.

Even now, Tesla still can’t figure out that outside of rush hour, I can drive down it without HOV and without paying a toll.

 

[LiveFreeOrDieBob]

Tesla provides hands-free connectivity for voice calls, and even audio interfaces for texting so that drivers can keep their eyes on the road for safety. Tesla has also optimized it's screen U/I to be minimally distracting from attention to the road (speed indication at upper left corner requiring minimal eye movement, integration of voice commands, etc.).

Once FSD autonomy has reached level 4½ or 5, I could care less - but right now Tesla has clearly stated that drivers are fully responsible for taking over at any time to assure car is avoiding all pedestrians and obstacles.

What is so emotionally important on a phone screen requiring that eyes and attention must be diverted away from road and driving immediately at a given instant? Why can't a phone be kept in pocket or out of sight until the destination is reached, especially after all Tesla has done to integrate hands free functionality to promote safety?

What is so critically important requiring a phone to be directly next to a screen? Focusing to try and see small U/I icons or words on a phone is also going to cause even more delays in attention to the road. Tesla has also made it clear with later versions of FSD, that even staring at the Tesla U/I screen for too long is not acceptable, as many drivers using FSD have received the beep and that infamous "Pay Attention to the Road" prompt on screen. Texting and driving is also illegal in most U.S. states for all drivers:

https://www.carinsurance.com/Articles/cellphone-laws-and-penalties-by-state.aspx​

Clip 14 of this video by Wham Bam TeslaCam shows how someone attempted to fiddle with navigation on their phone while driving a rented Tesla, ironically when the Tesla already has navigation that's far superior to anything provided on a small screen of a phone (time index 1:14 if the link doesn't start at that point):

​

- ÆCIII

Is this a serious question? Waze obviously. Plus a phone placed above and to the left of the CT's touchscreen is less of a distraction than the touch screen. And don't say the fonts are too small - Waze is designed to be viewed while driving exactly the same as the touchscreen is.

 

[steveanderson3]

For those that have purchased one of the many screen mounted phone chargers, how are you routing the cable back to power? Has anyone found a way to get the power cord down to the floor from underneath the screen without completely disassembling the dash?

Check this out -

 

[pae1andonly]

Personally I hate the Tesla GPS navigation. It tells me what to do way too late to change lanes in heavy traffic, and it doesn't display what lane I should be in for the next maneuver until you are way past the point where you can get to where it wants you to be in many cases.

I have a very significant preference for Waze over the Tesla navigation which after 11 years and 132K mi on my Model S is my biggest gripe about my car.

I'll be mounting a small tablet or something to run Waze on my CB when I get it even though I will be getting FSD. I enjoy driving and often eschew cruise control for manual it's-all-on-me mode even on the longest road trips but the Tesla GPS is just way too late with the details for my taste so I run Waze in parallel.

FWIW

Cheers

Absolutely. Why has no car company (that I'm aware of) put a place for the phone where it should be - close to an alert drivers view? There are a few pricey and limited efforts at HUD driven by the phone, but meh.

The Tesla wireless charger is a good thought - well other than expecting that charging unit in a closed compartment to NOT overheat - but that should have been up to the left of the screen. Yeah, I'm sure some artistic (autistic) engineer would have a conniption, but that is where it belongs. ofc, 3rd party phone cradle people need to eat too...

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