So the Cybertruck fits in a garage (at under 19ft long)... But was the size reduction worth it for you?

[PilotPete]

I think if you read enough of his posts, you will find that he’s just making a joke. There are quite a few of his posts like this.

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[FutureBoy]

Declaring your point of view to be objective does not make it so.

Making a declaration that leaves no opening for differing experience or preference objectifies others by degrading them to the point of not having any other possible experience or preference.

But you do you.

 

[Rory_RedDog]

until official regularly measurements are out, just assume 227” long by 79.9” wide (absent mirrors).

that info is going to be as reliable as any iPhone measuring app

the measuring app will be unable to measure regulatory max width, as max width occurs at ~2/3 back from the front bumper, around the forward part of the rear wheel well

from an iPhone, length would also be near impossible to measure with any reliable accuracy

until official measurements are out, nothing is going to be accurate/reliable to within a couple inches

Thanks for the reply, what you say makes sense about the iPhone app. Hopefully we’ll get official numbers in a couple of weeks.

 

[FutureBoy]

From your point of view it probably looks that way. On a planet with multi-billions of viewpoints, perhaps some of them agree with you.

Seems presumptuous but I'm not expecting you to know what did/n't happen outside of your immediate experience.

 

[JBee]

Thanks for the reply, what you say makes sense about the iPhone app. Hopefully we’ll get official numbers in a couple of weeks.

What ADR rules in particular are you concerned about that the CT won't meet?

From what I understand there are no CT dimensions that exclude it from use in Australia?

 

[Nolacyber]

There’s a good discussion about angels on pinheads over at pointlessarguments.com that you guys might enjoy.

 

[FutureBoy]

There’s a good discussion about angels on pinheads over at pointlessarguments.com that you guys might enjoy.

Had to check my URL cause I thought this was the site

 

[HaulingAss]

Were the size sacrifices worth it?

Your poll and the thread title implies the only advantage of a shorter truck relates to fitting in a garage. More importantly, a smaller size benefits in a wide variety of situations; manuevability in tight spaces, relief from small parking spaces, fees that are charged by the foot (like on some ferries), more room for tailgate parties, using a 5-point turn to turn around on a narrow mountain road rather than having to back down some tricky terrain. etc.

In other words, smaller is often better. Bigger is only better when you need it to be bigger.

I would rather have a bed that was a true 6 1/2 feet (measured with vertical uprights), but not if it entailed more rear overhang (because that allows a trailer to have more leverage on the tow vehicle, worsening towing stability on the highway). Of course lengthening the wheelbase comes with it's own set of advantages and disadvantages.

I'm glad Tesla kept the rear wheels pretty far rearward and avoided the temptation to just tack on another 9" or a foot to the bed length. In the end, there is no "perfect" size for everyone, it all depends upon each person's use case and even that will be a compromise in terms of different individual scenarios.

I probably would have preferred 2-3" less rear seat leg room and 2-3" more bed length, but now I'm just splitting hairs.

 

[ÆCIII]

We still don't know the exact length yet. After many months of speculative discussion - still - no one has bothered to show up next to one with a measuring tape yet, and recently there have been plenty of opportunities.

- ÆCIII

 

[FutureBoy]

We still don't know the exact length yet. After many months of speculative discussion - still - no one has bothered to show up next to one with a measuring tape yet, and recently there have been plenty of opportunities.

- ÆCIII

Not enough people are out and about with their standardized chickens I guess.

 

[DaveLaguna]

Not trying to revive this old thread, but this is the only mention of Section 179 carve out for Cybertruck after hours of research online. I think you're a genius pointing this out almost 2 years back.

• Bed length is 6 feet and 0.9 inch
• No mid gate, not even an opening on mid gate window whatsoever

Otherwise one had to do all these for max deduction: Sec 179 $30,500 plus bonus depreciation 60% for 2024 plus $7500 Commercial Clean Vehicle Credit

I believe you are correct that such a 6'+ bed F150 truck could be factory configured and ordered. But on the road, they just do not exist. All the guys get the F150 crew cab (5.5' bed) or go to the F250 (8' bed).

Regarding deductions, I think it was reduced to 80% of value for 2023 but clearly the 26,200 section 179 limit does not apply. Effectively there is something like an 80% cap anyway say if you use the vehicle 80% business 20% personal. Makes one wonder whether compliance with the second bullet point below "not readily accessible from the passenger compartment" was a driving factor in the lack of pass-thru or midgate. Sure reads that way. "6 feet in interior length that is an open area or is designed for use as an open area but is enclosed by a cap and is not readily accessible directly from the passenger compartment"

"Trucks and vans with a GVW rating above 6,000 lbs. but not more than 14,000 lbs. generally have the same rules: no bonus depreciation limitation, but a $26,200 section 179 deduction limit. These vehicles, however, are not subject to the section 179 limit if any of the following exceptions apply:

• The vehicle is designed to have a seating capacity of more than nine persons behind the driver's seat;
• The vehicle is equipped with a cargo area at least 6 feet in interior length that is an open area or is designed for use as an open area but is enclosed by a cap and is not readily accessible directly from the passenger compartment; or
• The vehicle has an integral enclosure, fully enclosing the driver compartment and load-carrying device, does not have seating behind the driver's seat, and has no body section protruding more than 30 inches ahead of the leading edge of the windshield."

 

[mhaze]

Not trying to revive this old thread, but this is the only mention of Section 179 carve out for Cybertruck after hours of research online. I think you're a genius pointing this out almost 2 years back.

• Bed length is 6 feet and 0.9 inch
• No mid gate, not even an opening on mid gate window whatsoever

Otherwise one had to do all these for max deduction: Sec 179 $30,500 plus bonus depreciation 60% for 2024 plus $7500 Commercial Clean Vehicle Credit

Interesting.

I do actually use the truck for business so of course planned to use these clauses for the full deduction.

It would certainly be unfortunate if people with these high dollar trucks were not using the 179 clause (eg their accountants might not be aware that the bed was 6'+)

 

[DaveLaguna]

Maybe wasn't a big deal back in 2023 (80% bonus depreciation) but certainly makes a difference for 2024 and moving forward. The overall deduction amount when combining all three (7500 CCVC + Sec 179 with cap + 60% BD) is not that far off for 2024 still, just more paperwork to file.

I'm surprised even Tesla website doesn't advertise this, only listing Sec 179 with 30,500 cap as if they didn't update that section after Cybertruck launch. But many ICE truck dealerships are clearly using Sec 179 full deduction as a marketing strategy.

Interesting.

I do actually use the truck for business so of course planned to use these clauses for the full deduction.

It would certainly be unfortunate if people with these high dollar trucks were not using the 179 clause (eg their accountants might not be aware that the bed was 6'+)

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