Switched to Hankook Ion HT 275/65/20 on Cyberwheels to try & boost efficiency

[JerseyMike]

Next datapoint on range. Did a 1250 mile trip over the weekend, almost/all freeway, on FSD, Standard mode. Campbell to LA to Blythe to Campbell, all in CA. Included around 100 miles of off road driving, desert dirt roads.

My previous 23k miles average with the Pirelli Scorpions was 365.3 Wh/mi
Since getting the Hankook tires I now have 1779 miles at 381.9 Wh/mi
A decrease (or is that called increase) of 4.5%
Not too bad for a tire that is a lot cheaper and should have longer (twice?) the durability. Durability still to be proven though.

Now my lifetime numbers are 24,904 miles at 366.5 Wh/mi.

Just before going on this roadtrip I had 500 miles at 362.6Wh/mi, so the roadtrip cost quite some efficiency. Maybe because it was hot, so the airco was on all the time? Also I had the outlets on for a mini fridge and Starlink, not sure if that amount (it is not that much) is included in the numbers the truck reports?

Did you adjust for tire size? (34.1" v 34.6"....or 1.4% smaller with the ion HT)
I believe it would actually make it even less effecient.....I'm surprised that the light weight hancooks are less efficient than the pirellis (although the pirellis are light as well)

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[JerseyMike]

I was back and forth on this.....just bit the bullet (couldn't pass up the deal) 4 Hankook ion HT and install just over $1000 (amazon has them right now for $238 each and $25 for install locally)

 

[Granch]

I was back and forth on this.....just bit the bullet (couldn't pass up the deal) 4 Hankook ion HT and install just over $1000 (amazon has them right now for $238 each and $25 for install locally)

You can’t go wrong with that!
Discount tire will match and beat btw if you have one locally.

 

[JerseyMike]

You can’t go wrong with that!
Discount tire will match and beat btw if you have one locally.

Thanks, I wish but none nearby

amazon shipping to mavis near my house though…still easy enough

 

[GmP]

Did you adjust for tire size? (34.1" v 34.6"....or 1.4% smaller with the ion HT)
I believe it would actually make it even less effecient.....I'm surprised that the light weight hancooks are less efficient than the pirellis (although the pirellis are light as well)

No, I did not factor in the slightly smaller size. What I reported are the numbers straight from the truck. I do not know any setting that can tell the truck to use different ”distance for different tire sizes” settings.

My latest numbers are as of yesterday:
Hankook 3365 miles, at 372.7 Wh/mile, slightly improved from the 381.9 at 1779 miles. I assume just the mix of long freeway versus suburban driving? Or does ambient temperatures have an impact? Using your 1.4% the recalculated number would then be 378.2

My lifetime overall numbers are now 26490 miles at 366.3 Wh/mile (truck numbers); if I recalculate the miles on the HK it comes to 26443 at 366.9 Wh/mile

Not sure why the HK are less efficient as the Pirellis, but from reading the different threads here it was my expectation that this would the case.
Maybe Granch knows where the difference could come from:?

 

[Granch]

No, I did not factor in the slightly smaller size. What I reported are the numbers straight from the truck. I do not know any setting that can tell the truck to use different ”distance for different tire sizes” settings.

My latest numbers are as of yesterday:
Hankook 3365 miles, at 372.7 Wh/mile, slightly improved from the 381.9 at 1779 miles. I assume just the mix of long freeway versus suburban driving? Or does ambient temperatures have an impact? Using your 1.4% the recalculated number would then be 378.2

My lifetime overall numbers are now 26490 miles at 366.3 Wh/mile (truck numbers); if I recalculate the miles on the HK it comes to 26443 at 366.9 Wh/mile

Not sure why the HK are less efficient as the Pirellis, but from reading the different threads here it was my expectation that this would the case.
Maybe Granch knows where the difference could come from:?

I never tested Pirellis so I don’t have any data. They do have a different tread depth that could impact if I remember 9/32 vs 11/32 or 11/32 vs 13/32, AT would be worse.
For accurate comparison you would have needed to use a data logger like Tezlabs or Tessie or the new trips and do same speed and route similar weather and soc.
Highway will kill your efficiency regardless of tire especially the faster you go ie 80, 85mph.

Anything below 400kwh is fantastic and below rated.

Make sure the tires are cold inflated to 50psi. For best efficiency not less.

im in the mountains last 200+ plus and I am under 300kwh but speeds are 30-55 max in the Cyberbeast with out wheel covers.

I think my 4k+ miles on the tires is around 450 kWh vs 550kwh on the LTX. That’s 2 1100 mile trips at 75-85mph and come other driving.

I am still happy with the HK’s the LTX

 

[RayzorBEV]

No, I did not factor in the slightly smaller size. What I reported are the numbers straight from the truck. I do not know any setting that can tell the truck to use different ”distance for different tire sizes” settings.

My latest numbers are as of yesterday:
Hankook 3365 miles, at 372.7 Wh/mile, slightly improved from the 381.9 at 1779 miles. I assume just the mix of long freeway versus suburban driving? Or does ambient temperatures have an impact? Using your 1.4% the recalculated number would then be 378.2

My lifetime overall numbers are now 26490 miles at 366.3 Wh/mile (truck numbers); if I recalculate the miles on the HK it comes to 26443 at 366.9 Wh/mile

Not sure why the HK are less efficient as the Pirellis, but from reading the different threads here it was my expectation that this would the case.
Maybe Granch knows where the difference could come from:?

Probably because the Pirellis were co-developed with Tesla specifically for the Cybertrucks, that would be my guest as to why

 

[JerseyMike]

No, I did not factor in the slightly smaller size. What I reported are the numbers straight from the truck. I do not know any setting that can tell the truck to use different ”distance for different tire sizes” settings.

My latest numbers are as of yesterday:
Hankook 3365 miles, at 372.7 Wh/mile, slightly improved from the 381.9 at 1779 miles. I assume just the mix of long freeway versus suburban driving? Or does ambient temperatures have an impact? Using your 1.4% the recalculated number would then be 378.2

My lifetime overall numbers are now 26490 miles at 366.3 Wh/mile (truck numbers); if I recalculate the miles on the HK it comes to 26443 at 366.9 Wh/mile

Not sure why the HK are less efficient as the Pirellis, but from reading the different threads here it was my expectation that this would the case.
Maybe Granch knows where the difference could come from:?

The pirellis are light also and low rolling resistance but I just was hoping one size smaller would help efficiency

In terms of tire size I’m debating what I will do

Leaving it at 285/65/20 will be off by about 1.5%

If you set it to 18” wheels it will be closer (285/70/18)

Technically it is the same size as the original snow package that Tesla offers and that is an option but I wonder if the computer adjusts for braking and regen to snow tires when on that



My plan is to set it to 18” or the snows

 

[kpanda17]

New here to the group cyberbeast FS owner since oct 24, CB came with newly installed LTX Defender Platinum, I got DT tire certs right away, factory lightbar only mod.

First Trip Phoenix to Houston 1100miles was not great 10 stops 550wh/mi 21 22hrs brutal with wheel covers vs. Ice 21 F-150 FX4 EB Plat.

A few short trips 1hr+around TX still avg 550 no changed with wheel covers off increased psi to 55.

Trip to Denver + 1100 miles bumped psi to 60-65PSI with the defender LTX, 100% from W Houston I only got 200miles to Hillsbor, TX 3% soc left 55-75mph.

Kind of disappointed with that 200miles, based on learning we just tried to push the truck to low soc to get max range, we did better this trip but still brutal vs. ice.

I started reading the club & grok to figure out what might be normal for CB & met another CB owner here from Austin in Colorad his avg on oem AT was 456wh/mi, the best from FL 380’swh/mi corewheels.

This got me thinking could the defender LTX Platinum at 65Lbs each be affecting my efficiency, the oem scorpions are 45Lbs each, the oem GY AT 55LB. I’d be really happy with 450wh/mi or less.

I had bought the tire certs from Discount tire, called them up and asked for help! Discount was pretty awesome. The first store shut me down, second store was awesome Zach the manager hooked me up and helped. Credit for the Defender LTX P Tire, refund certs and installed the new Hankooks.

Defender LTX Platinum I believe is an awesome tire, just heavy but my understanding possibly same efficiency or better then oem GY AT, at 60+ PSI the ride is harsh over lower PSI and vs. scorpions and ion HT. I had tried to increase PSI to improve efficiency on the LTX did not notice anything significan.

I’m a few days into the Hankook Ion HT ownership, and mountain pass driving so too soon to tell if this tire improved my efficiency, handling so far is good. These Hankook Ion HT tires come with 100day refund so figure why not and test.

I have also started logging data with tezlab to try and better compare and understand efficiency.

99% of our driving will be on road vs. off road and dirt, so I went for efficiency over style and off road, I know this tire is not for everyone.

update 05/8/2026
Tires still happy with them and think I have boosted my efficiency by 20%.

Let’s the wh/mile
Hancook are AS tires, DT are AT
Pirelli ATR AS are amazing
Good luck with the new tires

btw, I have two sets
AT GY DT RTs are amazing
AS have the Pirelli ATRs amazing

 

[kpanda17]

Let’s the wh/mile
Hancook are AS tires, DT are AT
Pirelli ATR AS are amazing
Good luck with the new tires

btw, I have two sets
AT GY DT RTs are amazing
AS have the Pirelli ATRs amazing

Let’s see wh/mile for the Hankooks

 

[GmP]

Let’s see wh/mile for the Hankooks

Several people have posted their numbers, but I will repeat only mine:

Pirelli Scorpion ATR (the OEM original tires): lasted 23K miles, 365.3 Wh/mile
Hankook ION HT: 3365 miles, 372.7 Wh/mile. Some discussion that due to the little smaller tire size the comparable Wh/mile would be 378.2
Very close, in my view not really significant worse.

Hankook ION HT has 80KMiles warrantee, not sure what the Pirelli lifetime is, I heard 50KMIke’s? I don’t trust these numbers as absolute, neither will reach that warrantee number, but to me it indicates that the Hankook will last longer then the Pirellis. Ofcourse still to be proven in practice.
And to add: the Hankook ION HT are half of the costs for the Pirellis: in my case $226 each for the Hankook versus $550 each for the Pirellis.

 

[JerseyMike]

Several people have posted their numbers, but I will repeat only mine:

Pirelli Scorpion ATR (the OEM original tires): lasted 23K miles, 365.3 Wh/mile
Hankook ION HT: 3365 miles, 372.7 Wh/mile. Some discussion that due to the little smaller tire size the comparable Wh/mile would be 378.2
Very close, in my view not really significant worse.

Hankook ION HT has 80KMiles warrantee, not sure what the Pirelli lifetime is, I heard 50KMIke’s? I don’t trust these numbers as absolute, neither will reach that warrantee number, but to me it indicates that the Hankook will last longer then the Pirellis. Ofcourse still to be proven in practice.
And to add: the Hankook ION HT are half of the costs for the Pirellis: in my case $226 each for the Hankook versus $550 each for the Pirellis.

Good points, really not that significant a difference from the pirellis is fine (pirellis gave great range)

Cost and longevity are major benefits

Excited to get the ions installed this week

I’ll post my range comparison after having them for a bit

 

[kpanda17]

Several people have posted their numbers, but I will repeat only mine:

Pirelli Scorpion ATR (the OEM original tires): lasted 23K miles, 365.3 Wh/mile
Hankook ION HT: 3365 miles, 372.7 Wh/mile. Some discussion that due to the little smaller tire size the comparable Wh/mile would be 378.2
Very close, in my view not really significant worse.

Hankook ION HT has 80KMiles warrantee, not sure what the Pirelli lifetime is, I heard 50KMIke’s? I don’t trust these numbers as absolute, neither will reach that warrantee number, but to me it indicates that the Hankook will last longer then the Pirellis. Ofcourse still to be proven in practice.
And to add: the Hankook ION HT are half of the costs for the Pirellis: in my case $226 each for the Hankook versus $550 each for the Pirellis.

Great report
Very much thanks
Once my ATRs are done, I’ll consider Hankook

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