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Literally already happened with Grok. Are you not aware?
What, you talking about recent news where people are trying to claim that there isn't genocide taking place in South Africa right now? And Grok stated plainly that there absolutely is verifiable and demonstrable evidence of it?

Figured the relevance because Elon was born there, and all.
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Only Tesla doesn’t, and this specific fib cost me almost $10k in 2025 money.
Show me exactly in your purchase agreement where Telsa lied to you.
 
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There is an ongoing coordinated terroristic threat against Tesla
No there isn't.

Because you want bottom line profits over what's right vs. wrong.
No, I disagree about what is right and what is wrong. Clearly I think almost everything Elon has been doing lately is wrong.
 

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No there isn't.

No, I disagree about what is right and what is wrong. Clearly I think almost everything Elon has been doing lately is wrong.
The fact that you refuse to accept the acts of terror against Tesla and Tesla owners leads me to understand that you don't live in the same plane of the universe as me, where facts are a thing and can be backed up with stuff like evidence.

So thanks for shortcutting this conversation [that can go ahead and end now]. I'm not going to participate in your delusion.
 


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What, you talking about recent news where people are trying to claim that there isn't genocide taking place in South Africa right now? And Grok stated plainly that there absolutely is verifiable and demonstrable evidence of it?

Figured the relevance because Elon was born there, and all.
That’s a very creative analysis of known facts.
 
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The fact that you refuse to accept the acts of terror against Tesla and Tesla owners leads me to understand that you don't live in the same plane of the universe as me, where facts are a thing and can be backed up with stuff like evidence.
The only evidence we have is individuals acting out, zero evidence of coordinated terrorist attacks. There is a difference.
 

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That’s a very creative analysis of known facts.
So are you going to use this forum to deny the genocide taking place in South Africa? Or am I misunderstanding?
 

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https://actionnetwork.org/event_campaigns/teslatakedown

☝ definitely not coordinated lmao. Ok, pal. Just going to mute you now. Tired of seeing your blatant lies on this forum.
Of course you're burying your head in the sand so you won't see this, but from your link:

" Tesla Takedown is a peaceful protest movement. We oppose violence, vandalism and destruction of property. This protest is a lawful exercise of our First Amendment right to peaceful assembly."

Protest is not terrorism, in case you didn't know. Talk about blatant lies...
 


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So are you going to use this forum to deny the genocide taking place in South Africa? Or am I misunderstanding?
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As always, I’m going to say only what I’ve said and nothing else.

I DON’T WANT AND WILL NOT HAVE A SPONTANEOUSLY POLITICAL ROBOT OF ANY STRIPE IN MY HOME.

GOT IT?!?
 

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As always, I’m going to say only what I’ve said and nothing else.

I DON’T WANT AND WILL NOT HAVE A SPONTANEOUSLY POLITICAL ROBOT OF ANY STRIPE IN MY HOME.

GOT IT?!?
No, I don't 'got it' to be honest. Since you are trying to paint Tesla as potentially placing political robots in people's houses. ?‍♂

No sure where those exist in the first place, but sure. Don't buy one.
 

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No he has not. You don't broaden your base by turning off the people most inclined to buy your products and losing them as customers. At best he's gained as many as he's lost, but since the people he's appealing to now are less likely to be interested in the products to begin with it's probably a net loss. As has been mentioned repeatedly you want to grow a customer base by keeping existing customers happy while adding new ones. This is business 101.
The number of “lost” Tesla-loyal customers is both greatly exaggerated and temporary. Consumers are very forgetful, and almost always make decisions based on personal interests. The folks making claims like you about being done with Tesla are anecdotes. I teach business 101. Sometimes you have to do what’s best for the customer even when the customer doesn't recognize it at first. This political stuff will pass. Quickly. It always does. See my Henry Ford example above - FAR more real, without lasting effect.
 
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Well, your profile's profession seems to be entirely on point. :LOL:
Better to be professionally retarded than an amateur.

I was hoping you would expound on these "promises, hype and outright lies" on your own volition but I guess I need to ask:

What's your very best, singular, example of this taking place. (Official/first hand sources, please.)
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