Unsupervised FSD for Cybertruck (and FU Tesla Service)

[donnymcdoodles]

I'd also have them give you your extra slat (assuming it is missing) while you are there. Note, however, if you add the slat, a bar will now be blocking your window when the tonneau is closed (not a huge deal since it is closed and you won't really be looking out through that glass).

See thread here: https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...or-tonneau-service.37610/page-2#post-30520556

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[OldDirtyRobot]

That article is nothing burger.

If you are waiting for Unsupervised FSD, it will be a while. I wouldn't even go into "patiently waiting mode" for another 18-24 months.

Supervised is in a pretty good place and will only get better w/ fewer nags.

As far as service, meh. Tesla Service centers operate like any other vehicle service center. Some are better than others. Sometimes you get a tech who is dialed in, and sometimes one whose dog got run over that morning. None of us do our best work every single day. Patience is a virtue.

 

[Sterling Shadow]

So is the extra slat meant to fix water leaks? I haven’t tested it yet as I’ve only had it a couple days.

 

[donnymcdoodles]

So is the extra slat meant to fix water leaks? I haven’t tested it yet as I’ve only had it a couple days.

Tesla's apparent official version is "yes" it is the best version of leak fixing they offer. The real answer is it won't do anything leak-wise, will look better, and will keep debris from getting in your drain slot. They are taking the entire assembly out anyways, so adding an extra slat will be super-easy for them at that point.

Once you get it back, if you want the leak fixed, do the youtube fix that everyone else seems to be doing... (unless someone has a better solution).

 

[Sterling Shadow]

Thanks for sharing that. I’m still torn. The dents are actually harder to see in regular daylight. I’d be bummed it if came back with even a scratch or other issue.

 

[CyberGus]

Right after delivery, I tried to adjust the A/C airflow and just heard "click click click" at which point I got a message on-screen about "Airwave Module Faulty". It would not adjust left/right.

Since the procedure to replace it requires removing the whole IP, I decided to live with it for awhile. It's been a year now, and since I was getting other items serviced I demanded replacement.

Service said "the A/C works fine". No, I said it's the Airwave module. "We checked it multiple times, it's fine." WTF? I'll show these guys a thing or two when I return.

Sure enough, I show up to retrieve the truck... and it works fine. I guess it was stuck, and somewhere in the last year it jarred itself loose, but I never bothered to try because I thought it was broken lol.

 

[donnymcdoodles]

Right after delivery, I tried to adjust the A/C airflow and just heard "click click click" at which point I got a message on-screen about "Airwave Module Faulty". It would not adjust left/right.

Since the procedure to replace it requires removing the whole IP, I decided to live with it for awhile. It's been a year now, and since I was getting other items serviced I demanded replacement.

Service said "the A/C works fine". No, I said it's the Airwave module. "We checked it multiple times, it's fine." WTF? I'll show these guys a thing or two when I return.

Sure enough, I show up to retrieve the truck... and it works fine. I guess it was stuck, and somewhere in the last year it jarred itself loose, but I never bothered to try because I thought it was broken lol.

Weird. The truck is so advanced I wonder if at some point it self-configured itself into the correct position. Like it was positioned all the way to the left, but the system didn't think so causing the clicking noise.

My last truck had a couple weird quirks that also seemed to fix themselves. I wanted to ignore the restraint fault, but that kinda seemed like it was too important to roll the dice on.

 

[Boyne]

So, as like most of you I sit here patiently waiting for my FSD upgrade. We hear news, get excited, but deep down know that Musk has a tendency to over-exaggerate release dates (putting it nicely). Recently, everyone is saying that our trucks FSD is on hold because they are hyper-focused on the robotaxis. But that seems odd since progress to the next FSD release should be so close. Something seems off. Then I read this today:

https://futurism.com/emails-tesla-california-robotaxis

I always just thought Musk was just talking like an excited child and just over-optimistic about timelines. That's just who he is. But this story, if true, the last paragraph is a bitter pill to swallow:

"In short, Musk and Tesla are talking a big game to investors and its wide-eyed fans about how amazing its Robotaxis will be — but its private groveling with regulators suggests that it's fibbing to at least one of those groups."

I hate to say it, but occam's razor... I think we've been had boys. Unsupervised seems like a pipe dream.

And since at least one person will undoubtedly say this is a troll post, I will half-agree because I love the truck but hate Tesla Service. So much that this truck, which is a leaps-and-bounds better than anything on the road, gives me a tinge of regret for ever even buying.

Long story short, got my brand new truck back from service (rear seat-belt error and to add a slat). It is a 2025 freshly wrapped CB with about 200 miles on it. They had it for 4 days (took them 1.5 days to even get around to it). Got it back, as expected, seat-belt error seems fixed and of course the bed probably leaks even worse now... but whatever. Problem? Fix 1 thing, break something else?

Not 1 or 2 things... literally 20 things broken, damaged, or improperly reinstalled!! WTF?!?! Thank God I took a ton of pictures and videos of both the interior/exterior when I dropped it off. It goes back next week with assurances (whatever that is worth) that only their lead tech will touch the truck and they will be responsible for any damage to my PPF that may occur on the next visit.

I was a Tesla Service Center virgin before this. My 2024 Cybertruck (AWD) was mint and never needed service. I knew to avoid service if possible, but what can you do about a seatbelt error that you can't resolve on your own? This was a nightmare and Tesla should be ashamed of themselves for hiring techs who clearly have no pride in their jobs. For F's sake, just give me the parts and I will do it myself!

/rant

My CT went in for the additional slat in the toneau cover and the cantrals recall. Planned for one day, one week later they said ready for pick up. Went to pick up and fixes were terrible plus they broke several other items. Which is typical from Tesla service which is usually destructive as hell. Typical. Have 2018 MX, 2022 M3 and now a 2024 CT. Tesla Service center QA is nearly non existent. I hate taking my cars to SC. Tesla Service by far is worst I’ve ever experienced, but love Tesla cars. Sure wish Elon would fix service centers, a visit there always leaves a bad taste in mouth and always feel like I’ve been raped. My Ct is now in the shop going on two weeks for one days worth of work. Feel for you brother, join the club. Now after 7 years, thinks have gotten worse, not better.

 

[CyberGus]

The only complaints I have about service was that it look a few days longer than promised (no big deal, I was enjoying my Model S loaner) and the dirty floor mats.

It made me think of the "floormat condoms" that dealerships always leave behind for you to throw away, but those never stop them from getting paint on the inside and oily handprints on the outside. I understand that they're mechanics and not detailers, under pressure to work quickly. If it's a little dirty, I can fix that myself.

But at the same time, they threw my seat-covers on the shop floor and were stepping on them (footprints all over the back of them). You can make an argument about they shouldn't be on there... but I asked them beforehand if they wanted me to take them out, and they told me they were fine to keep on.

Before taking it in for service, I removed everything, I mean everything, from the vehicle. No accessories, and nothing in the frunk or smuggler's bay, or glovebox, or center console, or door pockets. Nothing to get lost or damaged. They're relieved of the responsibility, and I don't need to worry about it. (I guess I shouldn't have left the floormats lol)

 

[REM]

So, as like most of you I sit here patiently waiting for my FSD upgrade. We hear news, get excited, but deep down know that Musk has a tendency to over-exaggerate release dates (putting it nicely). Recently, everyone is saying that our trucks FSD is on hold because they are hyper-focused on the robotaxis. But that seems odd since progress to the next FSD release should be so close. Something seems off. Then I read this today:

https://futurism.com/emails-tesla-california-robotaxis

I always just thought Musk was just talking like an excited child and just over-optimistic about timelines. That's just who he is. But this story, if true, the last paragraph is a bitter pill to swallow:

"In short, Musk and Tesla are talking a big game to investors and its wide-eyed fans about how amazing its Robotaxis will be — but its private groveling with regulators suggests that it's fibbing to at least one of those groups."

I hate to say it, but occam's razor... I think we've been had boys. Unsupervised seems like a pipe dream.

And since at least one person will undoubtedly say this is a troll post, I will half-agree because I love the truck but hate Tesla Service. So much that this truck, which is a leaps-and-bounds better than anything on the road, gives me a tinge of regret for ever even buying.

Long story short, got my brand new truck back from service (rear seat-belt error and to add a slat). It is a 2025 freshly wrapped CB with about 200 miles on it. They had it for 4 days (took them 1.5 days to even get around to it). Got it back, as expected, seat-belt error seems fixed and of course the bed probably leaks even worse now... but whatever. Problem? Fix 1 thing, break something else?

Not 1 or 2 things... literally 20 things broken, damaged, or improperly reinstalled!! WTF?!?! Thank God I took a ton of pictures and videos of both the interior/exterior when I dropped it off. It goes back next week with assurances (whatever that is worth) that only their lead tech will touch the truck and they will be responsible for any damage to my PPF that may occur on the next visit.

I was a Tesla Service Center virgin before this. My 2024 Cybertruck (AWD) was mint and never needed service. I knew to avoid service if possible, but what can you do about a seatbelt error that you can't resolve on your own? This was a nightmare and Tesla should be ashamed of themselves for hiring techs who clearly have no pride in their jobs. For F's sake, just give me the parts and I will do it myself!

/rant

Not sure how the two topics of this post are related, but anywhoo, FSD is something that has always been a colossal undertaking, and it's a modern technical miracle they have achieved so far. I think you are getting anxious for quicker development because you see what's technically possible so now you want more out of it. It's like playing a video game with cutting edge graphics... always want more! Many people are guilty of this; the best thing we can do from our side is to 1) feed dojo with quality data and 2) help educate and showcase FSD to people don't have first hand experience with it.

I'm not sure why you are willing to take literally any third party opinion on this typic for face value, as literally trillions of dollars are at stake here; so Tesla (and Elon) will be the number one target for layfare for the next decade *at least*. The FUD is just beginning to trickle in. There is a tsunami of it coming soon. I promise.

So it's time to start thinking about all the heat that's coming so you can decided to cook or get out of the kitchen.

 

[CyberGus]

It's like playing a video game with cutting edge graphics... always want more!

FSD has come a long way in the 10 years since "Autopilot" premiered, and it's only been 5 years since FSD was made available to beta testers.

Next time you feel like technology isn't moving fast enough, try using a phone from 10 years ago. Or a computer game. Or "Castle Wolfenstein" lol

 

[Beetlebug62]

Was there anything relevant about FSD in the rants that I missed? Because all I saw were problems with service, which the subject heading has in brackets. I was really expecting the opposite emphasis. Anyhow, Futurism isn't known for flattering Tesla articles. And the article itself didn't show much groveling. Mostly nitpicking. Seeing the forest and missing the trees kind of thing.

 

[donnymcdoodles]

Was there anything relevant about FSD in the rants that I missed? Because all I saw were problems with service, which the subject heading has in brackets. I was really expecting the opposite emphasis. Anyhow, Futurism isn't known for flattering Tesla articles. And the article itself didn't show much groveling. Mostly nitpicking. Seeing the forest and missing the trees kind of thing.

My initial concern was how I am eagerly awaiting the day when my windshield stops wiping for no reason and for my truck to stop hugging the line. I see articles like this: (5 months ago) that give me hope: https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/2...d-start-fsd-from-park-and-improved-controller

Then I read, oh, they are focusing on robotaxi, be patient. Meanwhile, at least based on the article which may or may not be biased, the robotaxi is much further behind than thought. Which would ultimately lead to a longer wait.

The follow-up about service was to address the commenters that would say I was just troll-posting. Which I was basically accused of immediately. The moderator (rightfully) deleted those post(s) as we were not being 100% civil.

If I am getting completely mistreaded by their service (infinitely more-so than other brands), why would they be honest about current status & near-term expectations regarding FSD?

 

[Zane Edwards]

My initial concern was how I am eagerly awaiting the day when my windshield stops wiping for no reason and for my truck to stop hugging the line. I see articles like this: (5 months ago) that give me hope: https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/2...d-start-fsd-from-park-and-improved-controller

Then I read, oh, they are focusing on robotaxi, be patient. Meanwhile, at least based on the article which may or may not be biased, the robotaxi is much further behind than thought. Which would ultimately lead to a longer wait.

The follow-up about service was to address the commenters that would say I was just troll-posting. Which I was basically accused of immediately. The moderator (rightfully) deleted those post(s) as we were not being 100% civil.

If I am getting completely mistreaded by their service (infinitely more-so than other brands), why would they be honest about current status & near-term expectations regarding FSD?

I'am not reading in anything "Troll" about your posts. Very legit perspective and complaints. I hope they get your CT sorted and I hope Tesla gets their CS sorted ASAP, it has been long enough for them to pivot and address all of the issues I have seen across this platform and others. The CS is the achilles heel for Tesla.

 

[Beetlebug62]

My initial concern was how I am eagerly awaiting the day when my windshield stops wiping for no reason and for my truck to stop hugging the line. I see articles like this: (5 months ago) that give me hope: https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/2...d-start-fsd-from-park-and-improved-controller

Then I read, oh, they are focusing on robotaxi, be patient. Meanwhile, at least based on the article which may or may not be biased, the robotaxi is much further behind than thought. Which would ultimately lead to a longer wait.

The follow-up about service was to address the commenters that would say I was just troll-posting. Which I was basically accused of immediately. The moderator (rightfully) deleted those post(s) as we were not being 100% civil.

If I am getting completely mistreaded by their service (infinitely more-so than other brands), why would they be honest about current status & near-term expectations regarding FSD?

I suppose we all have different experiences and interpretations.

I've had a Tesla since 2018, so maybe I'm a little more tolerant of the vehicle's quirky behavior. Yes, wipers improve. Yes, my wiper wipes at the same location every day. Does it bother me, no, not really.

I see FSD in my 2018 Model 3. When I got FSD v12, May 2024, I immediately knew FSD had been solved, and ordered a new license plate:

Some people need everything to be complete, before they believe it's complete. Some can project. I believe the finish line is in sight.

I know how well FSD v12.6.4 works in my old Tesla with HW3. In a new Model Y with HW4 and robotaxi software, I can project how much closer it is. I don't see any of the negatives that you are seeing in the Futurism article. Things that are clearly solvable shouldn't distract you. That's just a function of time. FSD is improving far faster than anyone else's ADAS software; there's just no comparison.

If you can't tell Futurism is biased, you should read a few more articles by them on Tesla. The bias is clear. Anyhow, I trust my own judgement far more than the opinion of a biased writer.

As for honesty, Service Centers are notorious for not knowing anything about what HQ is up to. Why would you project a Service Center experience on Tesla HQ?!? Service Center experiences vary widely. I never leave anything in my Tesla that might be valuable, because the person you talk to, isn't necessarily the person doing the service. Why trust that person?

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