World's LARGEST Tesla Supercharger! 120 V4 Stalls - Barstow, CA

[ChargePozitive]

Going to/from Las Vegas got even easier with an EV!

120 V4 Tesla Supercharger now open in Barstow, CA

Just down the freeway from the 70 stall V3 location at the Outlets.

Check it out in my latest video:

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[Jhodgesatmb]

Going to/from Las Vegas got even easier with an EV!

120 V4 Tesla Supercharger now open in Barstow, CA

Just down the freeway from the 70 stall V3 location at the Outlets.

Check it out in my latest video:

We went there and it must have been opened that day because we went there a few days before and it wasn’t open yet. In order for the Cybertruck to get to the charging cable you have to park as close to the line on the cable ‘anchor’ side as possible. Yes, the cable is longer, but the anchor is on one side and the plug is on the other, so if you park normally the plug won’t reach. Perhaps because the plugs are new they don’t fit well in the Cybertruck charging port. I had to try a couple of times. I watched another Tesla come and then leave, possibly for that reason. So, lots of chargers and covered parking with lots of places very close by, but not without issues.

 

[Black306]

Been a while since I’ve been to the Barstow station. Need to make another trip to Vegas. ?

 

[TwiztOG43]

Just wish Tesla would partner up with a 24hr chain for clean restrooms such as Terribles or Buc-ees. After typical business hours neighboring business are kind of sketchy.

Eddie World in Yermo a few exits down is great, but it’s only 150Kw and are not 24 hours.

 

[ChargePozitive]

Been a while since I’ve been to the Barstow station. Need to make another trip to Vegas. ?

Yeah the 70 Stall at the Outlets is nice but this is a completely new station more in town. Just off Main St.

 

[dalton108]

Yep. I’ve been the only person at this one. It’s very cool.

 

[CyberTrk]

World's LARGEST Tesla Supercharger! 120 V4 Stalls - Barstow, CA

Not for very long...

Tesla breaks ground on ‘Oasis’ – a 168 stall Supercharger in Lost Hills, California​

 

[Jedi2155]

We went there and it must have been opened that day because we went there a few days before and it wasn’t open yet. In order for the Cybertruck to get to the charging cable you have to park as close to the line on the cable ‘anchor’ side as possible. Yes, the cable is longer, but the anchor is on one side and the plug is on the other, so if you park normally the plug won’t reach. Perhaps because the plugs are new they don’t fit well in the Cybertruck charging port. I had to try a couple of times. I watched another Tesla come and then leave, possibly for that reason. So, lots of chargers and covered parking with lots of places very close by, but not without issues.

I suspect all the changes* and bad supercharger designs is why Elon fired the entire supercharger team, because they started catering too much to other companies than their own product.

*Some of the questionable changes include

• Opening up their superchargers to other companies
• Putting J1772 adapters in the Universal HPWC when everyone is going NACS??? huh?
• V4 stalls is massive and overly complicated compared to the sleek and simple V2/3
• V4 stalls are still hard to charge for the Cybertruck putting the cable on opposite side seems like a cater to other car manufacturers.
• So many superchargers locations have been increased but their utilization is much lower now than before makes me question the locations of those new supercharger installs.

I felt the supercharger team made a lot of quesitonable choices that was not aligned with Tesla culture prior.

 

[Black306]

I suspect all the changes* and bad supercharger designs is why Elon fired the entire supercharger team, because they started catering too much to other companies than their own product.

*Some of the questionable changes include

• Opening up their superchargers to other companies
• Putting J1772 adapters in the Universal HPWC when everyone is going NACS??? huh?
• V4 stalls is massive and overly complicated compared to the sleek and simple V2/3
• V4 stalls are still hard to charge for the Cybertruck putting the cable on opposite side seems like a cater to other car manufacturers.
• So many superchargers locations have been increased but their utilization is much lower now than before makes me question the locations of those new supercharger installs.

I felt the supercharger team made a lot of quesitonable choices that was not aligned with Tesla culture prior.

IIRC, opening up the Supercharger network to other makes was always the plan.

 

[HaulingAss]

Not for very long...

Tesla breaks ground on ‘Oasis’ – a 168 stall Supercharger in Lost Hills, California​

The people who claimed firing the Supercharger Team was an emotionally reactive, immature move by Elon, and would ruin the growth of the Supercharger Network, look even sillier now.

Sure, Elon can (and has) made mistakes, but they are rarely the ones his critics call out. How many times does he need to prove he knows what he's doing before all the know-nothings will stop acting like they know what they are talking about, while Elon doesn't. He generally has a lot more, and a lot better, information to form his opinions and actions than his detractors could hope to have.

 

[HaulingAss]

IIRC, opening up the Supercharger network to other makes was always the plan.

Yes, Elon offered to make the Supercharger Network a joint effort between EV manufacturers from the very beginning. Instead, the other manufacturers worked to standardize a different DCFC standard (after Tesla was already deploying Superchargers) with the hope it would strangle and isolate the newcomer and cause them to die.

 

[Macgreiner]

The people who claimed firing the Supercharger Team was an emotionally reactive, immature move by Elon, and would ruin the growth of the Supercharger Network, look even sillier now.

Sure, Elon can (and has) made mistakes, but they are rarely the ones his critics call out. How many times does he need to prove he knows what he's doing before all the know-nothings will stop acting like they know what they are talking about, while Elon doesn't. He generally has a lot more, and a lot better, information to form his opinions and actions than his detractors could hope to have.

Of course it was a little boy maneuver. Who fires an entire team? Like everyone of them was terrible at their job? It was that team that got Tesla to the unarguable prime charging position throughout the entire industry. The head had a documented argument with him. The rest is history.

 

[cybercuh]

I actually stopped here on Sunday driving back from Vegas. Position of the cable was a little awkward and realized I was the only one double parked lol. Luckily it was mostly empty

 

[CyberGus]

The people who claimed firing the Supercharger Team was an emotionally reactive, immature move by Elon, and would ruin the growth of the Supercharger Network, look even sillier now.

Elon fired the entire team. That was foolish and short-sighted, which Tesla regretted, as evidenced by their re-hiring many of those same people.

This action was disruptive to their goals. No one suggested that Tesla was exiting the charging business or would be unable to recover, but there's no telling where they would be today if the team had been left intact.

The biggest takeaway from the mass-firing was that a) there is no room for dissent, and b) employees receive zero loyalty. Every Tesla employee now understands that sticking out your neck for the company is all risk, no reward.

 

[HaulingAss]

I suspect all the changes* and bad supercharger designs is why Elon fired the entire supercharger team, because they started catering too much to other companies than their own product.

That's not quite right because Elon was always in favor of working with other companies to share charging infrastructure.

*Some of the questionable changes include

• Opening up their superchargers to other companies.

No, Elon had to approve this massive change. The Supercharger Team did not sneak that in on him. He gave it careful consideration and, in the end, did what he thought was the right thing to do.

• Putting J1772 adapters in the Universal HPWC when everyone is going NACS??? huh?

Again, Elon would have had to approve the development and production of the dual CCS/NACS Wall Connector. And it was the right thing to do to increase sales of their HPWCs and also make it easier for owners of CCS equipped cars add a Tesla to their garage. Sales of Wall Connectors are low margin sales done to accelerate the adoption of EVs.

• V4 stalls is massive and overly complicated compared to the sleek and simple V2/3
• V4 stalls are still hard to charge for the Cybertruck putting the cable on opposite side seems like a cater to other car manufacturers.

I've charged at plenty of V. 4 Superchargers with both our Model 3s as well as my Cybertruck. Never had any difficulty. I just back up until I'm as far back as I can go without touching anything. I love how easy Superchargers are to use.

• So many superchargers locations have been increased but their utilization is much lower now than before makes me question the locations of those new supercharger installs.

There is a fine line between becoming congested on busy holidays and over-building Supercharger Capacity. Also, Tesla is being proactive about the roughly two million cars they adding onto the Supercharger Network over a one to two year period. You have to build out capacity in advance of adding a bunch of new users or problems will ensue.

I felt the supercharger team made a lot of quesitonable choices that was not aligned with Tesla culture prior.

I'm sure you're right about that, or else Elon wouldn't have done a complete makeover of the team. But his reasons for doing so are probably not publicly visible for the most part. It seems likely that the team may have been infiltrated by the same destructive forces that embedded themselves in other DCFC networks, in order to make for a worse user experience. They act like they are pushing the mission forward, but they try to insert things that will make it more difficult and more expensive for EV motorists.

Gas and oil interests stand to lose billions in revenue and the faster the transition to EV happens, the sooner they lose. It seems to me they decided at an early point in time that it would be easier to hobble the DCFC experience (give EV consumers a bad experience) than it would be to slow down the transition any other way. Not that they don't also meddle in other ways but, by hobbling the DCFC experience they could get the most bang for their bucks.

Probably the first thing Elon noticed were ballooning costs on metrics measuring how much they were achieving per million dollars. But that's just a guess. He might have also had inside intel that bad actors were in their midst. And then he probably found out that well-meaning people were being inadvertently persuaded by the bad actors. Elon has high standards that his employees must think for themselves and not just go along with a bad idea because they have been convinced by bad arguments or a persuasive personality.

In the end, he hired back the employees who were smart and productive, and he was sure were not plants from those who meant harm. This is the most likely explanation for the shake-up.

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