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Yeah, I get all that. I did consider it.


My thoughts were I think there's a % probability .

They could sit on their hands, and wait for IDRA or they could in parallel create the die, test it , and ratify it. Then they could build test samples so they can fast track the tooling whilst the IDRA is set up in the US.

IMO if it helps to fast track production, 30 million in expense to get it done is not expensive.
I suppose they could have made the dies, cast a wax version of the rear casting, and then used that wax as the basis for a sand casting. (Pack sand around the wax leaving a hole at the top and a hole at the bottom.) melt the wax out and then fill it with molten metal. Remove the sand and there you go. One single casting for the rear end of a VERY limited production vehicle, or prototype, in this case.
 

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This is how Tesla did it before the Gigapress. They had 2 castings bonded together. They still do it for Model 3 production. It is equally strong, just a bit heavier. Not even too much heavier. The biggest reasons for the Giga Castings are weight reduction and process simplification, not strength. In fact… I’m pretty sure process simplification is the only reason. The rest is a byproduct of that.
It also gets rid of a lot of variability in the frame... We see that variability in the form of panel gaps/misalignments which have gotten a lot better as of late.
 

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It also gets rid of a lot of variability in the frame... We see that variability in the form of panel gaps/misalignments which have gotten a lot better as of late.
This is a great point. Also… it feeds back into reduced costs. Better the initial quality means less QA issues, fewer after sales repairs, etc. A better product is it’s own cost savings… also happier customers means you have to advertise less. Another cost savings ;)
 


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This is a great point. Also… it feeds back into reduced costs. Better the initial quality means less QA issues, fewer after sales repairs, etc. A better product is it’s own cost savings… also happier customers means you have to advertise less. Another cost savings ;)
Less fiddling to attach the pieces in the first place as they're not springing all over the place.

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I’ve heard that the cybertruck is a death trap because rescuers cannot saw through the exoskeleton or break into it with the jaws of death if you are trapped inside.
Automotive engineers understand the design requirements for a vehicle. It is highly unlikely they are not designing to crash worthiness criteria. It is not public knowledge many of the design decisions that have been made under the surface to manage occupant risk and pedestrian risk. This will become apparent when NHTSA, NCAP, ANCAP does crash testing. Anything else is speculation (usually to foment FUD)

That being said I’m confident the jaws of life will be capable of cutting through A and B pillars.
 

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Y’all are like the Warren Commission with this one photo lool

The previously unreleased 14th finding of the Warren Commission...

14 - The Commission believes that Sandy Munro knows what he is talking about.
 

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@Crissa says I’m old ?
It's only a problem if you know how to count. Once you get old enough to forget how to do that in high numbers, it's all good again. Anyway, that's what Crissa told me the other day... so I won't take credit for the advice. Aged experience trumps youthful ignorance I guess. ?:ROFLMAO:
 


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It's only a problem if you know how to count. Once you get old enough to forget how to do that in high numbers, it's all good again. Anyway, that's what Crissa told me the other day... so I won't take credit for the advice. Aged experience trumps youthful ignorance I guess. ?:ROFLMAO:

What’s more important;

Years of experience or experiences per year?
 

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What’s more important;

Years of experience or experiences per year?
Sorry my comment was in jest of the "old" moniker. Crissa never said anything of the sort.
I was alluding towards senility vs adolescence, and that it is only really those in the middle that have any sense at all! ;)

But... not all experiences are equal, and the number of them maybe not important, as not all experiences are worthwhile, or for that matter important enough to be counted as "experiences". Whilst some more meaningful experiences are only recognized as such much later after the event. Like commuting to work 100's times a week in traffic vs going on holiday. :unsure:

Overall I think the definition of leading a "full life" is important, but what it is full of can be very subjective to who's life it is, and if they are pursuing their dream of creating substantive change in their lives, or are just simply existing and being consumed by changes happening to them.

So answering your question is not at all straight forward, especially if your values are not predetermined by simple arithmetic, of "more is better." :p:)
 

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Sorry my comment was in jest of the "old" moniker. Crissa never said anything of the sort.
I was alluding towards senility vs adolescence, and that it is only really those in the middle that have any sense at all! ;)

But... not all experiences are equal, and the number of them maybe not important, as not all experiences are worthwhile, or for that matter important enough to be counted as "experiences". Whilst some more meaningful experiences are only recognized as such much later after the event. Like commuting to work 100's times a week in traffic vs going on holiday. :unsure:

Overall I think the definition of leading a "full life" is important, but what it is full of can be very subjective to who's life it is, and if they are pursuing their dream of creating substantive change in their lives, or are just simply existing and being consumed by changes happening to them.

So answering your question is not at all straight forward, especially if your values are not predetermined by simple arithmetic, of "more is better." :p:)
Lucky for y'all I'm smack dab in the middle.
 

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Sorry my comment was in jest of the "old" moniker. Crissa never said anything of the sort.
I was alluding towards senility vs adolescence, and that it is only really those in the middle that have any sense at all! ;)

But... not all experiences are equal, and the number of them maybe not important, as not all experiences are worthwhile, or for that matter important enough to be counted as "experiences". Whilst some more meaningful experiences are only recognized as such much later after the event. Like commuting to work 100's times a week in traffic vs going on holiday. :unsure:

Overall I think the definition of leading a "full life" is important, but what it is full of can be very subjective to who's life it is, and if they are pursuing their dream of creating substantive change in their lives, or are just simply existing and being consumed by changes happening to them.

So answering your question is not at all straight forward, especially if your values are not predetermined by simple arithmetic, of "more is better." :p:)
No need to apologise! I would have thought by now you’d know not to take anything I say too seriously.

Yours is the sort of response that gives me faith in humanity.
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