3-Row Cybertruck SUV Possible?

[NJturtlePower]

No, please stop with these waste of time "could be" (but never will) concepts....it's usually what the legacy brands put out at car shows. ?

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[JBee]

"If" you really wanted a CT SUV like the picture here would never work with a 3rd row anyway. That is because the second row headroom is already on the limit on the CT, meaning that in the third row, it will be less high than a MY third row. You might have the width for a third row, but not enough height with this sloping design. The other thing is that the third row will be on top of the rear motors, so the seats can't go lower.

As Ogre pointed out, the rear of the cab and the rear cast would need a complete redesign. Currently the cast is blocking the SUV rear windows, and there's nowhere to mount seats, belts and airbags. Personally, I prefer the 6 adult sized seat combination in the CT over the MX 6 seats which is more 4 +2kids, and MY which is really the same, except it has a 7th seat in the middle of the second row. I always thought it a waste of space on a wide enough truck not to have a fold down front row middle seat, so I'm glad Tesla addressed this with the CT.

 

[charliemagpie]

Based on its (predicted) load capacity, quality, range, price, running cost…like the Semi, the business decision clearly is to choose the Tesla Transit Van.
The charging network can support this business. We need to capture this market next.

Of course then there is filling out the price categories, design categories, Autonomous transport options.

When you think about it, dozens of potential designs. They are all coming one at a time.

 

[mggoulet]

Via https://electrek.co/2022/12/27/tesla-cybertruck-suv/

Now the obvious change over the pickup version is that you give up the functionality of the bed for a bigger interior cabin, and ideally, you use that extra cabin space for a third row.

There are not many electric vehicle options with a third row. Tesla offers some of them, but it starts around at least $115,000 for the Model X, and as for the Model Y, the size of the third row is pretty laughable.

A Tesla Cybertruck SUV could potentially have up to nine seats thanks to the deployable middle seat in the front row and how you handle the third row. And based on the Cybertruck platform, it could potentially be offered at a much cheaper price point than the Model X – making it an interesting new entry in the all-electric vehicles with third rows’ market.

As we are grandparents and we are snowbirds... the 3 row will be our choice with the highest range and the full self driving...!!! Hopefully, that the engineers will offer the version with 3 rows.

 

[mggoulet]

As we are grandparents and we are snowbirds... the 3 row will be our choice with the highest range and the full self driving...!!! Hopefully, that the engineers will offer the version with 3 rows.

 

[JBee]

Based on its (predicted) load capacity, quality, range, price, running cost…like the Semi, the business decision clearly is to choose the Tesla Transit Van.
The charging network can support this business. We need to capture this market next.

Of course then there is filling out the price categories, design categories, Autonomous transport options.

When you think about it, dozens of potential designs. They are all coming one at a time.

I'm not sure we are going to get many more models. I think MS and MX will disappear first, and then the M3. EM already said MS and MX are for sentimental reasons atm, meaning they only reeally exist because they have the production lines already and can still milk a few thousand units out of them still without too much cost.

We will then get a smaller model to pickup the low end and robotaxi van (unless they are the same). The rest Will be the crumbs for the other manufacturers to mop up. Remember the mission is not to make money, rather the speed up change to sustainability. So they only need to make as much money as needed to provoke the change. EM has mentioned a few times already they are spending money as fast as they can, without completely throwing it away, so having or making more "capital allocation tokens" is not really helpful if you don't have anything to spend it on to further the mission objectives. Better off waiting to pull CT off first then move to the next model with the things learnt. Batteries are still the constraint, despite the battery day predictions. Change takes time, which is also one of EMs pet principles; to increase the rate of innovation. But it still has to work within the physical world and availability of human resources and ingenuity.

 

[Bill906]

The triangle is definitely going to be hard to do for a larger vehicle.

But... move the front forward a bit, then replicate that in the rear. Now you're overlapping two triangles, and you get a slightly heavier structure but it can contain twice as many seats.



-Crissa

This is the picture my mind drew from your description.

 

[Ogre]

Everyone over 45 had a friend who’s parents had a truck like this. We can bring it back…

 

[charliemagpie]

Everyone over 45 had a friend who’s parents had a truck like this. We can bring it back…

We actually can.

EM indicated advancements in airbag deployment makes the seat belt redundant.

Could this difference be indicative of his recent comment that he has some innovative designs coming out.

Perhaps countries such as India or Indonesia could be on the front foot to allow such a change.

 

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[GnarlyDudeLive]

Anything is possible. However, I doubt Tesla will build it. They’re very strategic about the models they’ve created:

• Sports car
• Luxury Sedan
• Minivan
• Economy Sedan
• SUV crossover
• Semi Truck
• Pickup Truck

That covers a majority of the market. A 3-row CT would cannibalize X and Y.

I have no insight into the next model Tesla is planning, but their most immediate need is for a robotaxi.

As a counter point, the Y I think is a different demographic of a vehicle owner. Now it could very well cannibalize the X sales but is that really a bad thing? I am going to make the assumption that a CyberSUV would be more production scalable and using more current automation and something more than just a single factory could produce as well a potentially cheaper to produce?

 

[firsttruck]

As a counter point, the Y I think is a different demographic of a vehicle owner. Now it could very well cannibalize the X sales but is that really a bad thing? I am going to make the assumption that a CyberSUV would be more production scalable and using more current automation and something more than just a single factory could produce as well a potentially cheaper to produce?

At the Nov 2019 Cybertruck reveal the base price single motor Cybertruck was priced less than the 2019 Model Y. This might imply that in Nov 2019, Tesla expected the cost of the Cybertruck to be less or similar to the cost to produce a Model Y.

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Elon Musk: Model S, Model X production continues for ‘sentimental reasons’ Kirsten Korosec@kirstenkorosec
October 23, 2019
https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/23/e...production-continues-for-sentimental-reasons/

Musk then described the X as “the Fabergé of cars,” before adding that “it’s an art piece basically.”

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Model X is too delicate & expensive to be the SUV for mass market.
Model Y 7-seater is too small (maybe 7 adults for very short time. Not long travel) and too low (not enough ground clearance).

Market needs high volume, standard luxury price ($60-80K), larger EV SUV - CyberSUV 8/9-seater

 

[Crissa]

Model Y 7-seater is too small (maybe 7 adults for very short time. Not long travel) and too low (not enough ground clearance).

For being 'too small' it's kinda dominating SUV sales.

-Crissa

 

[Qball]

Just dying to get my CT here so zero interest in a SUV!

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