NY Times CT article

[Light Seeker]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ny...as-cybertruck-pickup-stainless-steel.amp.html

I didn’t even get past the headline -

All those ?experts? need to do is click onto YouTube, where hoards of people make a living, finely, dissecting everything from Cybertruck tire valve stem material to what cereal Elon Musk ate, the morning of his, latest, production meeting.

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[CyberGus]

A few thoughts on the article (excerpts in bold):

“Stainless steel is typically heavier than the steel used in most other cars, reducing driving range.”

Yes. And mild steel is heavier than wood. WHY ARENT CARS MADE OF WOOD

“To me, the insistence on stainless steel is a manifestation of his belief that he has some unique understanding of the market, and that the market will buy whatever he offers because it comes from the mind of Elon Musk.”

I heard this same BS about the iPhone: "you're just a bunch of Steve Jobs cultists".

These challenges probably help explain why Tesla is two years behind schedule in manufacturing the Cybertruck, which the company plans to produce at its factory in Austin, Texas.

Ummm, pandemic? And, dont mess w/TX

“Tesla thinks they can solve any problem and don’t have to learn from anyone else,” said Raj Rajkumar, a professor of engineering at Carnegie Mellon University, “and then they get stuck in a corner.”

There would be no Tesla if they relied on "anyone else":
Elon: Electric cars for everyone! Them: Impossible.
Elon: Electric trucks and Semis! Them: Impossible.
Elon: Grid-level battery storage! Them: Impossible.
Elon: Re-use rockets by landing! Them: Impossible.

“The first-mover advantage that Tesla could have leveraged has completely gone away,” Mr. Rajkumar said. “It’s a massive opportunity lost.”

Citation? There are still ~1M reservations rite?

Stainless steel does not crumple as easily, exposing passengers to more of the force from impact.

Citation? CARS ARE TOO STRONG, MAKE THEM FROM WOOD

 

[John K]

Which is heavier, a ton of steel, a ton of stainless steal or a ton of feathers?

Answer: Me after I ate all those chickens to provide those feathers.

 

[Ogre]

Which is heavier, a ton of steel, a ton of stainless steal or a ton of feathers?

Answer: Me after I ate all those chickens to provide those feathers.

ChatGPT has your back on this one.

 

[John K]

@Ogre

Changing the unit of measurement is flawed logic.

btw, pen safely retrieved and stowed securely in glove box. I know you lost sleep wondering about the outcome

edit: adding a salty humid environment, feathers take on weight. Steel sheds weight.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ny...as-cybertruck-pickup-stainless-steel.amp.html

couldn't read the article w/o a subscription to the NYT.

 

[Crissa]

couldn't read the article w/o a subscription to the NYT.

I was able to get it from the amp link using reader mode.

-Crissa

 

[Ehninger1212]

couldn't read the article w/o a subscription to the NYT.

I had a freebie.. but no one needs to have a subscription to know NYT is BS.

 

[Ogre]

couldn't read the article w/o a subscription to the NYT.

Not worth the effort/ sending them clicks.

 

[firsttruck]

I had a freebie.. but no one needs to have a subscription to know NYT is BS.

Yup, that is exactly why I did not spend any time reading the NYT article even though I had freebies still available. It was the NYT writing about something they have a known bias against.

I am not going to waste my time and I also do not want the NYT to count another visit that they can use to charge higher ad rates.

 

[android04]

couldn't read the article w/o a subscription to the NYT.

The link I posted earlier is meant to get around paywalls, try it https://12ft.io/

 

[JBee]

@Ogre



Changing the unit of measurement is flawed logic.



btw, pen safely retrieved and stowed securely in glove box. I know you lost sleep wondering about the outcome



edit: adding a salty humid environment, feathers take on weight. Steel sheds weight.

BTW Corroded steel is heavier than non-corroded steel.

There are cars made of wood, and they are typically lighter, depending on the wood used. Structurally per unit of mass the proper wood can be better than steel, depending on the geometry required.

 

[JBee]

The link I posted earlier is meant to get around paywalls, try it https://12ft.io/

That's cool. Many thx.

 

[Sonic]

I love how the dude writing the article is banging on about how difficult it is to stamp stainless steel, even though the Cybertruck will have no stamped stainless steel. Fantastic journalism right there. ? Imagine paying money to read this tripe, lol.

 

[firsttruck]

A few thoughts on the article (excerpts in bold):
.....
“Tesla thinks they can solve any problem and don’t have to learn from anyone else,” said Raj Rajkumar, a professor of engineering at Carnegie Mellon University, “and then they get stuck in a corner.”
......

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There would be no Tesla if they relied on "anyone else":
Elon: Electric cars for everyone! Them: Impossible.
Elon: Electric trucks and Semis! Them: Impossible.
Elon: Grid-level battery storage! Them: Impossible.
Elon: Re-use rockets by landing! Them: Impossible.

In 2010 it is understandable that most engineers might have thought those things would be extremely difficult but only poor engineers would say impossible.

But in late 2022 for professor of engineering Raj Rajkumar to say Tesla doesn't know what it is doing after accomplishing the extremely difficult things CyberGus listed and even Tesla competitors doing similar (several Chinese EV makers that have scaled production of full-size EVs, pickups Ford Lightning EV, Rivian R1T, Scania Semi EV, Freightliner eCascadia, Peterbilt 579 EV, Mercedes-Benz eActros, LG Energy Grid scale battery systems, NextEra Energy, Fluence-Siemens).

SpaceX Falcon_9 booster successfully landed for the first time on flight 20 in December 2015. Since then, SpaceX has successfully landed boosters over 100 times. By 2023 ( 8 years later) no competitor has come close.

This professor is a rank incompetent.

I would suggest any current students at Carnegie Mellon University taking an engineering class from professor of engineering Raj Rajkumar to transfer out of the class NOW!
If you already completed the class you should ask for your money back.

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