Confirmed Cybertruck specs: 5% smaller, 6x4 bed size, 5 seats, frunk, no pass through & more... (info from Tesla employee at Investor Day)

[CyberBC]

I personally like the jump seat in the back. Was already planning how to pull the back seats to make room for a microwave/fridge combo for camping and at the ski hill. I have had a six seat pickup for 15 years and only used the middle seat once. A 6' 5" bed would be better for camping, but I have already worked out a design for a little cabinet to sit over the end-gate to seal it in and give ventilation. Should be nice and secure. Don't want any damn bears licking my toes!

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[Gurule92]

coffin it is for you

 

[Zabhawkin]

I don't get why so many people are saying that the bed isn't going to be useful. The bed on my Nissan is 4 ft wide above the wheel wells and I have hauled and still haul all kinds of stuff. 8 sheets of drywall or ply wood, lumber, firewood, dump runs, concrete, scrap etc. There is hardly a surface in the back that isn't marred by use. (or any other part of the truck for that matter)

 

[Mini2nut]

My guess is the Cybertruck vehicle width will be very close to the Rivian R1T.

I don't see the the 3 amber marker lights on the front/rear end of the Beta vehicle. That is a federal requirement for vehicles 80" or wider.

 

[cvalue13]

The back seats look like they have little leg room because the front seats are moved back

yes but mostly no

The front passenger side is pushed back, with the passenger back flipped up, but the driver’s seat is pushed forward with the back passenger flipped down. And both front seats are in fairly upright positions

now, if someone is looking at this photo and saying “the back seat is small” without considering what should be the obvious fact the front seats move, then I’m with you.

but when I look at this photo I’m saying it is small only after accounting for the fact the front seats move.

in contrast, here’s an F150 SeperCrew with both front seats set 3/4 the way back (further than I have them back, at 6’3”, and both seats reclined considerably:

And here’s the F150 with the back seats flipped up, and front seats 3/4 bac

these things and comparisons all considered is why I say it looks much smaller than the larger 1/2 ton trucks

 

[Gurule92]

yes but mostly no

The front passenger side is pushed back, with the passenger back flipped up, but the driver’s seat is pushed forward with the back passenger flipped down. And both front seats are in fairly upright positions

now, if someone is looking at this photo and saying “the back seat is small” without considering what should be the obvious fact the front seats move, then I’m with you.

but when I look at this photo I’m saying it is small only after accounting for the fact the front seats move.

in contrast, here’s an F150 SeperCrew with both front seats set 3/4 the way back (further than I have them back, at 6’3”, and both seats reclined considerably:

And here’s the F150 with the back seats flipped up, and front seats 3/4 bac

these things and comparisons all considered is why I say it looks much smaller than the larger 1/2 ton trucks

I am following your logic. But I think if you consider the difference in the angles of these pictures combined with the fact that the seat is back it could still have plenty of room.

We are peeking through a door that is about halfway open compared to a full side angle view

 

[happy intruder]

It looks better shortened. More proportionally appealing. But the expense is clearly usability of the bed. I'm still getting it, but I'm much less enthused about the bed than I was originally. Trade-off is that I'll look better in it now!

The front also looks stubbier from edge of front door to tip of the nose. It looks like they shrunk it 5% by simultaneously shrinking the front end more so they didn't have to shrink the bed as much. But both were required to get to stated reduction.

well, I want to see someone clean the windshield from the inside....looks like it about 4 feet and I dont have long arms.....I am just afraid there is going to be many thing that just don't add up to $80-85k....

 

[Gurule92]

well, I want to see someone clean the windshield from the inside....looks like it about 4 feet and I dont have long arms.....I am just afraid there is going to be many thing that just don't add up to $80-85k....

I got you fam.

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If that doesn't work I guess you'll have to just cancel that order ?

Also, did you just poof those numbers into existence?

 

[happy intruder]

I got you fam.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Ettore-Rubber-Window-Squeegee/3434510

If that doesn't work I guess you'll have to just cancel that order ?

Also, did you just poof those numbers into existence?

what I said was: " looks like it about 4 feet ".......looking at the inside, from where the seat is positioned, it may very well be 4 feet and then some.....remember, the windshield is at about 30to45 degree angle from the roofline.......so, I may be pretty close

 

[BenH]

6'3" bed would have been nice but i guess i can sleep diagonally. Waiting to find out what the overall length is.

I always want few more inches taller. Not anymore.

 

[BenH]

Lack of 6th seat, might be a deal breaker. Not all families have 2 kids, was hoping this could function as family vehicle.

same here

 

[JBee]

yes but mostly no

The front passenger side is pushed back, with the passenger back flipped up, but the driver’s seat is pushed forward with the back passenger flipped down. And both front seats are in fairly upright positions

now, if someone is looking at this photo and saying “the back seat is small” without considering what should be the obvious fact the front seats move, then I’m with you.

but when I look at this photo I’m saying it is small only after accounting for the fact the front seats move.

in contrast, here’s an F150 SeperCrew with both front seats set 3/4 the way back (further than I have them back, at 6’3”, and both seats reclined considerably:

And here’s the F150 with the back seats flipped up, and front seats 3/4 bac

these things and comparisons all considered is why I say it looks much smaller than the larger 1/2 ton trucks

Thanks heaps for the comparison. Visually it gives me something to work with.

I completely agree the CT rear seat legroom is more compact than the Lightning, probably by about 4-6inches. That's a shame, but it's still going to be bigger than a MY. I'm a little concerned with the rear headroom as well (being 6'6) but I think the extra width and gabled roof line will still make it a comfortable long range tourer with 4-5 adults.

I think the Supercrew rear seat is borderline excessive in size (although limousine level space comfy and like it), but in regards to the CT main market, (cost conscious and practicle size)and the fact that it poses a safety risk as the rear passengers are only retained by the seatbelts, and theres lots of room for things and people to move about in the rear, so they are not in a ideal position for the safety systems to work properly in a crash.

Overall, so long you are comfortable in a natural seating position, without being boxed in, it doesn't really help if you have too much legroom, in particular if you don't have legrests to keep you legs up and extended.

Another thing I noticed in the comparison, is that the front seats seen to be quite high off the ground, so you're feet can easily fit under them. This might add some extra legroom without needing a longer cab. That could be like another 4", that the Supercrew doesn't seem to have, but also doesn't need.

Although I was hoping for more space in the rear, I think what it offers will suffice.

 

[Tinker71]

Wow, 5% reduction in overall size, more then I was expecting from the prototype dimensions.

I can see the removal of the 6th seat upsetting to some.

No pass through will definitely upset some. I didn’t really care either way but I know some would have benefited from it.

I’ll take tires with the most range offered, lol. Speaking of range, any deets on that?

Thanks for the updates @greggertruck

They need a bolt in jump seat option for the vault with an intercom to the cab. For the bad kids.

 

[cvalue13]

I'm a little concerned with the rear headroom as well (being 6'6)

there’s no helping you, stretch!

I agree with everything you say regarding the F150 rear seat, as relates to the needs of certain buyers

Then there’s the other group.

I’m probably in the other group. CT will probably suck me in anyway, but not so long as ai’ve got 3 toddlers. Until then, considerations that cause me to love (be spoiled by?) the interior dimensions of the F150 (none are my pics)

•I won’t belabor the point, but only a minivan can beat it for people who need 3 full sized car seats (and they can fit rear-facing without adjusting front seats)

• rear cabin is cargo area - large pieces of furniture can be hauled there

• full-sized kennels for 80lb dogs can be secured (my now past fur baby went everywhere with me, hunting, etc.) … or 7 intermediate hunting dog kennels (admit they removed back seats):

• I do find occasion to need to nap or take a long break in my truck - the rear seat depth allows for features like this:

Which brings to mind an important third group of buyers, something @Ogre talks about a lot, where these rear cargo dimensions (and bed dimensions) really matter: the professional truck-dwellers and fleet build-outs.

For the 1/2 ton fleet specialty bed market, the integrated bed as long been a limitation of the CT - no possibility of flat beds, stake beds, utility beds, service bodies, etc. And CT probably wasn’t going to break into the >1/2 ton fleet space.

But the market for 1/2 ton regular-bodied fleet could have been really impacted if CT had managed a true 6’X5’ bed and SuperCab competitive interior room.

But if these rear seat (and bed) suspicions turn out correct, even the regular-bodied 1/2 ton fleet vehicle market seems harder to break into. For tradesmen and job-site guys who office out of their trucks, or pipeline guys that spend all day with equipment and/or sometimes 2-3 coworkers in their trucks, comfortable interior space (and bed space) is a key competition point.

But at the end of the day, the reduced dimensions (if true) could have as much upside in retail as downside in wholesale.

When the lightning started getting delivered, I was surprised how many people were first time full sized truck buyers who hadn’t even realized the vehicle won’t fit in their garage. A few sold within weeks. The CT will surely have a lot of interested crossover buyers for whom a full-sized truck will be a friction point.

And hey, the CT rear seat looks like an airplane hanger compared to the Rivian back seat

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