Cybertruck Amphibious Technologies Video

[Dids]

I wonder why it's so thick. Illusion? Deep pockets? Window slot?

-Crissa

I don't think the door looks that thick. It's an illusion partly. The door panel has a nice wide arm rest probably due to plenty of interior space.
The 3 person front seat was not a good idea probably due to no where to hard mount the shoulder seat belt for middle passenger.
I honestly don't think for a pickup truck that it would have been used much anyway. Some people saying they need 6 seats but do they really need a pickup truck?
I use a crew cab pickup truck daily... I never have passengers other than dogger.

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[charliemagpie]

Yea, mostly illusion

This pic shows the top flush with the door jam, and we can see the bottom wider with storage area.

Looks normal, they just boxed out the storage area(bin?) which normally runs across the bottom of a car door. (in my car)

 

[tidmutt]

I feel bad in the same way I feel bad when I see parents teaching their 3 year-olds about Santa Claus. Because I know when they are 6, and they find out there is no Santa Claus, they are crushed.

6?!?!

Still a kid, 6 is waaay too young.

10-11ish perhaps.

 

[cvalue13]

6?!?!

Still a kid, 6 is waaay too young.

10-11ish perhaps.

not if you’re @HaulingAss - he makes sure to get to ‘em when they they still really feel it

 

[Rutrow]

wont do you much good in a life and death situation and you have to cross a river

Many, many, many more people die because their vehicles start floating and get swept downstream when they only intended to cross a creek, than are killed because they can’t float across a river The latter is so rare that I have never heard of an instance in my 35 year career as a swift water rescue certified firefighter.

 

[CyberGus]

We should not driving into swift currents, no matter how much the truck does or does not float.

 

[Crissa]

Many, many, many more people die because their vehicles start floating and get swept downstream when they only intended to cross a river, than are killed because they can’t float across a river The latter is so rare that I have never heard of an instance in my 35 year career as a swift water rescue certified firefighter.

While this is true... you should never ford through a stiff current anyhow, as it'll move the bed out from under your wheels even if you were on the bottom.

-Crissa

 

[firsttruck]

Many, many, many more people die because their vehicles start floating and get swept downstream when they only intended to cross a river, than are killed because they can’t float across a river The latter is so rare that I have never heard of an instance in my 35 year career as a swift water rescue certified firefighter.

How many succeeded?
Stats are going to be heavily skewed.

Normally, how many people who did NOT need rescuing report to you they did NOT need rescuing.

 

[Rutrow]

We should not driving into swift currents, no matter how much the truck does or does not float.

I have driven across hundreds of "swift currents", but my good judgement* has kept me from exceeding the capabilities of the vehicle I'm driving at the time (be that a Honda Accord, Jeep Cherokee, Ford Bronco, Chevy Silverado, or a M35 Deuce and a Half). There have been occasions when my job "required"** that I push my luck and go forward in conditions that were uncertain. I did so with self rescue skills and equipment, as well as nearby rescue crews in case the water was deeper or swifter than I thought. But that's just it, and I'll bet each of you on this forum have probably driven into water where you couldn't see the road, and things just worked out, you likely didn't even recognize how dumb luck saved you.

I also have A LOT of second hand experience about what conditions look like when a reasonable person wouldn't anticipate a problem, to later be smacked in the face with reality. The number of times I've heard "It didn't look bad" or "I've driven across worse than this dozens of times before" but then needed USAR crews to save their butts. I have a large database in my brain about what deceptively dangerous conditions look like. Recognition Primed Decision Making (RPDM, a fascinating topic to research)

So saying "we should not drive into swift currents" comes down to your definition of "swift currents". It's probably unlikely that you actually have a definition of swift current. I do. Swift Water Rescue Crews (SWRC) do too. Any current faster than a normal walking pace demands a different set of tactics and equipment than does "flat water" (i.e. not swift). Probably every 4X4er has crossed "swift water". For water flowing faster than a walking pace to become hazardous lies in its depth and speed. It's hard for water less than ankle deep to become dangerous (it can if flowing laminarly over a smooth bottom) but every inch higher than that increases the danger almost exponentially. Only an inch or two deeper than you've "crossed dozens of times" is what gets people into trouble.

So Gus, I agree with you completely about not driving into swift water, but be aware that water you don't consider "swift" may in fact, be enough to kill you. Turn Around, Don't Drown. There's probably a better way to get where you need to be.

* Good Judgement comes from wisdom.
Wisdom comes from experience.
Experience comes from Poor Judgement. ?

** "required" is too strong a word really. I always have to right to decline an unsafe act, but the urgency to save a life will often lead us to accept a higher risk than we would otherwise.

 

[CyberGus]

I have driven across hundreds of "swift currents", but my good judgement* has kept me from exceeding the capabilities of the vehicle I'm driving at the time (be that a Honda Accord, Jeep Cherokee, Ford Bronco, Chevy Silverado, or a M35 Deuce and a Half). There have been occasions when my job "required"** that I push my luck and go forward in conditions that were uncertain. I did so with self rescue skills and equipment, as well as nearby rescue crews in case the water was deeper or swifter than I thought. But that's just it, and I'll bet each of you on this forum have probably driven into water where you couldn't see the road, and things just worked out, you likely didn't even recognize how dumb luck saved you.

I also have A LOT of second hand experience about what conditions look like when a reasonable person wouldn't anticipate a problem, to later be smacked in the face with reality. The number of times I've heard "It didn't look bad" or "I've driven across worse than this dozens of times before" but then needed USAR crews to save their butts. I have a large database in my brain about what deceptively dangerous conditions look like. Recognition Primed Decision Making (RPDM, a fascinating topic to research)

So saying "we should not drive into swift currents" comes down to your definition of "swift currents". It's probably unlikely that you actually have a definition of swift current. I do. Swift Water Rescue Crews (SWRC) do too. Any current faster than a normal walking pace demands a different set of tactics and equipment than does "flat water" (i.e. not swift). Probably every 4X4er has crossed "swift water". For water flowing faster than a walking pace to become hazardous lies in its depth and speed. It's hard for water less than ankle deep to become dangerous (it can if flowing laminarly over a smooth bottom) but every inch higher than that increases the danger almost exponentially. Only an inch or two deeper than you've "crossed dozens of times" is what gets people into trouble.

So Gus, I agree with you completely about not driving into swift water, but be aware that water you don't consider "swift" may in fact, be enough to kill you. Turn Around, Don't Drown. There's probably a better way to get where you need to be.

* Good Judgement comes from wisdom.
Wisdom comes from experience.
Experience comes from Poor Judgement. ?

** "required" is too strong a word really. I always have to right to decline an unsafe act, but the urgency to save a life will often lead us to accept a higher risk than we would otherwise.

I'm using the urban definition of "swift", where the roadway is posted "DO NOT ENTER WHEN WATER IS OVER ROAD" or when authorities have actually installed barriers. Around here, several drivers get swept away every single time there is flooding. The lucky survivors always say "I thought I could make it" (or worse, "I didn't have time to go around").

Choosing a safe path when offroading is another matter.

 

[Zapharus]

If it displaces enough water and it doesn't leak in - it will float.
I dont suppose you think battleships are light do you?

Let’s revisit this conversation when the Cybertruck is in your hands and you test its floating and water tight abilities. I won’t be testing mine, that’s for sure.

 

[tidmutt]

Many, many, many more people die because their vehicles start floating and get swept downstream when they only intended to cross a river, than are killed because they can’t float across a river The latter is so rare that I have never heard of an instance in my 35 year career as a swift water rescue certified firefighter.

There is no way in hell I'm floating my $70K CT across a river. I might feel a little better about crossing a stream, but to be honest, I'm not even sure I'll do that. The most likely use case is driving through flooded roads which happens around where I live sometimes and my Golf was useless last time I had to deal with, which meant I couldn't get home. Admittedly my Model Y would be much better and probably sufficient, but in the CT I'll drive around like the AHs in the raised Jeeps did, well, minus the obnoxious bit.

 

[GlockandRoll]

Many, many, many more people die because their vehicles start floating and get swept downstream when they only intended to cross a creek, than are killed because they can’t float across a river The latter is so rare that I have never heard of an instance in my 35 year career as a swift water rescue certified firefighter.

I believe you, as I live in Austin, which some call the flash-flood capitol of the world.
But, we are talking about an amphibious vehicle here that has propulsion, and not just be at the mercy of the currents.

 

[GlockandRoll]

Let’s revisit this conversation when the Cybertruck is in your hands and you test its floating and water tight abilities. I won’t be testing mine, that’s for sure.

I'm pretty sure I stated that it might be handy in a life-or-death situation.

 

[electricAK]

I believe you, as I live in Austin, which some call the flash-flood capitol of the world.
But, we are talking about an amphibious vehicle here that has propulsion, and not just be at the mercy of the currents.

^^^^ This, is exactly the problem. This is how people die. Or at least need to be rescued.

Many, many, many more people die because their vehicles start floating and get swept downstream when they only intended to cross a creek, than are killed because they can’t float across a river The latter is so rare that I have never heard of an instance in my 35 year career as a swift water rescue certified firefighter.

Finally, some realistic and reasonable advice on this topic. Thank you!

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