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If those orders came in before yours they should
I certainly wouldn’t argue with your opinion. I guess would Tesla be ok with selling 10 to someone who is going to turn right around and sell them for a bigger profit? I’m asking this out of slight naïveté to how Tesla would be thinking, not to stir controversy . I personally wouldn’t let one person order 10-20 and turn around and sell them. I would rather get them in more hands .. but I am not in that business nor an expert or even a novice
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I certainly wouldn’t argue with your opinion. I guess would Tesla be ok with selling 10 to someone who is going to turn right around and sell them for a bigger profit? I’m asking this out of slight naïveté to how Tesla would be thinking, not to stir controversy . I personally wouldn’t let one person order 10-20 and turn around and sell them. I would rather get them in more hands .. but I am not in that business nor an expert or even a novice
How do you know they are planning to turn around and sell them? There are a number of reasons to buy 10-20 CTs. Would you deny everyone with larger orders simply because you think they all are fitting into your assumed pattern?
 

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Let us not forget, about a year after the CT announcement, the whole friggin world hit the pause button for the better part of two years. And we are just now reaching the two year point of a return to “normal” for most things, and just a year for a few others. I am not aware of a single project that was proposed in 2019 that has met their original schedule. Regardless of you opinion of what should have been done in 2020, it happened. And we aren’t finished with feeling the impacts thereof.
Agreed that Covid was sand in the gears of civilization, but 2 years is an optimistically aggressive timeline to roll out a new vehicle. Typical is more like 3 to 5 years, even under optimal conditions.

Elon's timelines are notoriously... inaccurate
 

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How do you know they are planning to turn around and sell them? There are a number of reasons to buy 10-20 CTs. Would you deny everyone with larger orders simply because you think they all are fitting into your assumed pattern?
Ok, what would reasons be? Corporations / business for fleet? Turo? I mean, are you that rich, you just want 20 CTs? I totally get that people would do that. I don’t even have a problem with it. The whole point of my post is does Tesla honor order numbers especially if someone plopped down 5k that first day/week? I was seeking if anyone actually has experience with Tesla’s process. I mean, I know you are kinda trying to be a jerk with your response. I don’t know if I would deny them because I don’t know how Tesla works, hence why I asked a forum with smart people. Wasn’t looking for a dick response.
 

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To see genuine interest vs a PR stunt. Make it $1000. If you can't afford a $1000 deposit then that is likely an indication you should not being getting a early-adopter brand new truck.

By the time my number comes up, I will pay for my Cybertruck in cash. All of it. And I won't be selling my TSLA stock to do it.

Why would any sane, sober, rational person want to dish out $1000-5000 per vehicle for 5-10 years waiting for their truck just to prove to a soulless corporation that they really, really, really -- cross my heart and hope to die -- really want a Cybertruck?

Talk like that is merely selfish elitist snobbery, IMO.


And I really don't care if people who ordered multiple vehicles ahead of my single order get all theirs before me or not. I knew when I ordered what the line was like and I got in line.

Most people will profess to whatever position gets them the better advantage and then change it to the opposite if it suits their desires the next time. Tesla will make as many Cybertrucks as they need to get you yours. Relax.
 
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I certainly wouldn’t argue with your opinion. I guess would Tesla be ok with selling 10 to someone who is going to turn right around and sell them for a bigger profit? I’m asking this out of slight naïveté to how Tesla would be thinking, not to stir controversy . I personally wouldn’t let one person order 10-20 and turn around and sell them. I would rather get them in more hands .. but I am not in that business nor an expert or even a novice
How do you know they are planning to turn around and sell them? There are a number of reasons to buy 10-20 CTs. Would you deny everyone with larger orders simply because you think they all are fitting into your assumed pattern?
Ok, what would reasons be? Corporations / business for fleet? Turo? I mean, are you that rich, you just want 20 CTs? I totally get that people would do that. I don’t even have a problem with it. The whole point of my post is does Tesla honor order numbers especially if someone plopped down 5k that first day/week? I was seeking if anyone actually has experience with Tesla’s process. I mean, I know you are kinda trying to be a jerk with your response. I don’t know if I would deny them because I don’t know how Tesla works, hence why I asked a forum with smart people. Wasn’t looking for a dick response.
Not being a dick. I have a legitimate concern about your point of view. I don't have a first day order. I do have more than one order though and none of them are meant for quick resale. So my concern is, do you want Tesla to get your single order somewhere in the middle of mine or even before mine just because you think I'm a scalper or something? That seems like the real dick move.

And to quote you:

I personally wouldn’t let one person order 10-20 and turn around and sell them. I would rather get them in more hands
Well, seems like if a person orders 10-20 of them and then turns around and sells them that they will be getting into a minimum of 10-20 hands.

If they instead take those 10-20 vehicles and put them on Turo or some other similar service, then they would end up exposing so many more people who would get to experience them personally.

But instead of that, you want your selfish order to get put up closer to the front of the line so you can get your own experience to the detriment of so many others. Yeah, that is truly the dick move.

But hey, this is a free country. Be the dick if you want. Greed and selfishness has often been celebrated here.
 

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Not being a dick. I have a legitimate concern about your point of view. I don't have a first day order. I do have more than one order though and none of them are meant for quick resale. So my concern is, do you want Tesla to get your single order somewhere in the middle of mine or even before mine just because you think I'm a scalper or something? That seems like the real dick move.

And to quote you:

What’s your plan for them?

Well, seems like if a person orders 10-20 of them and then turns around and sells them that they will be getting into a minimum of 10-20 hands.

If they instead take those 10-20 vehicles and put them on Turo or some other similar service, then they would end up exposing so many more people who would get to experience them personally.

But instead of that, you want your selfish order to get put up closer to the front of the line so you can get your own experience to the detriment of so many others. Yeah, that is truly the dick move.

But hey, this is a free country. Be the dick if you want. Greed and selfishness has often been celebrated here.
Not being a dick. I have a legitimate concern about your point of view. I don't have a first day order. I do have more than one order though and none of them are meant for quick resale. So my concern is, do you want Tesla to get your single order somewhere in the middle of mine or even before mine just because you think I'm a scalper or something? That seems like the real dick move.

And to quote you:



Well, seems like if a person orders 10-20 of them and then turns around and sells them that they will be getting into a minimum of 10-20 hands.

If they instead take those 10-20 vehicles and put them on Turo or some other similar service, then they would end up exposing so many more people who would get to experience them personally.

But instead of that, you want your selfish order to get put up closer to the front of the line so you can get your own experience to the detriment of so many others. Yeah, that is truly the dick move.

But hey, this is a free country. Be the dick if you want. Greed and selfishness has often been celebrated here.
Again I have never said it was wrong to put them on turo… I get what you are saying.. but all you would be doing is exposing people to them while making money… so you are still driven by just as much greed that you think I am driven by.. I don’t think you are driven by greed, nor do I think I am. You are in it for business, right? Ok, so that’s your fleet.. but don’t lecture me from being all high and mighty when you in deed want to make money off of them… at least be honest

And yes I wish more people would get the option to buy them rather than rent them on turo.. I don’t think that is selfish. Hoarding them to yourself and renting them, while capitalistic (which I approve), is not altruistic like you make.
So let’s actually have an honest conversation.

I selfishly want more people to be able to buy them. You want Tesla to honor the first deposits, even if it’s multiple to a smaller faction, like yourself. There, now we can both say we are selfish and that we are both excited for this dang truck. I didn’t want to get into a hullabaloo, I don’t like Internet forum tough guy talk, it serves nobody

Cheers to your cybertruck when you get it. THAT is my sin (being jealous of you)
Cheers
 
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Again I have never said it was wrong to put them on turo… I get what you are saying.. but all you would be doing is exposing people to them while making money… so you are still driven by just as much greed that you think I am driven by.. I don’t think you are driven by greed, nor do I think I am. You are in it for business, right? Ok, so that’s your fleet.. but don’t lecture me from being all high and mighty when you in deed want to make money off of them… at least be honest

And yes I wish more people would get the option to buy them rather than rent them on turo.. I don’t think that is selfish. Hoarding them to yourself and renting them, while capitalistic (which I approve), is not altruistic like you make.
So let’s actually have an honest conversation.

I selfishly want more people to be able to buy them. You want Tesla to honor the first deposits, even if it’s multiple to a smaller faction, like yourself. There, now we can both say we are selfish and that we are both excited for this dang truck. I didn’t want to get into a hullabaloo, I don’t like Internet forum tough guy talk, it serves nobody

Cheers to your cybertruck when you get it. THAT is my sin (being jealous of you)
Cheers
Technically, I am only buying 4 staggered out a bit. Each one is going to a different member of my family (of course 1 is for me personally). The whole point is to get them a vehicle with FSD before FSD cost goes sky high. These are not for making money per say. It is about saving money long term for my family.
 

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Technically, I am only buying 4 staggered out a bit. Each one is going to a different member of my family (of course 1 is for me personally). The whole point is to get them a vehicle with FSD before FSD cost goes sky high. These are not for making money per say. It is about saving money long term for my family.
That’s awesome man. If I had the foresight into EVs (I am late to team adopter - have a 3 and Y now), and the money, I would totally do that too. Your family is blessed
 

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Technically, I am only buying 4 staggered out a bit. Each one is going to a different member of my family (of course 1 is for me personally). The whole point is to get them a vehicle with FSD before FSD cost goes sky high. These are not for making money per say. It is about saving money long term for my family.

If Tesla distributed the Cybertrucks in multiple cycles through the backlog with each cycle being 1-truck per account, you would still get all your family's Cybertrucks in a date spread out order.
 


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No. There was no quantity field on the reservation page. I remember specifically checking for a quantity field and could not find one.

I have reservations on both Tesla U.S. (for U.S. delivery address) and Tesla Mexico (for Mexico delivery address) and neither had a quantity field so each of my reverations is seperate.
So in that case there is "no" way to order more than one CT per order.

That means by the time you have placed your second order, everyone else has had a chance to order one for themselves as well. So there is no reason, at least IMHO, that only one CT should be delivered per person that has ordered more than one. Everyone has been given equal opportunity to purchase one, and everyone will get it in the order they made it.
 

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everyone will get it in the order they made it.
Do you know of somewhere that Tesla promised that Cybertrucks would ship strictly in date chronological order that reservations were made?
 

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Do you know of somewhere that Tesla promised that Cybertrucks would ship strictly in date chronological order that reservations were made?
I don't think they did as it normally is based location, configuration and when you complete the purchase.

But the point is that no one can complain about people ordering more than one, to justify people with multiple orders only getting one. Everyone has been given equal opportunity.

The only metric, at least in my book, is if that vehicle gets used properly. For example a collector that hoards them in a garage and never uses them should probably be given a lesser priority than someone that will drive it every day. But in saying that it would be very difficult to justify unless you knew the full set of circumstances in each use case.

Nothing worse for the environment than the production of underutilised resources.
 

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Let us not forget, about a year after the CT announcement, the whole friggin world hit the pause button for the better part of two years. And we are just now reaching the two year point of a return to “normal” for most things, and just a year for a few others. I am not aware of a single project that was proposed in 2019 that has met their original schedule. Regardless of you opinion of what should have been done in 2020, it happened. And we aren’t finished with feeling the impacts thereof.
Hmm. Ford announced the Lightning in 2021 claiming first sales would be 2022. They managed to maintain that schedule- all during the Covid years. GM announced the Silverado EV in 2022 and kept their schedule to have them on sale in 2023 - all while still recovering from Covid diminished supply lines. So what was Tesla’s excuse? Likely they were enjoying the $100 million interest free loan from all those deposits.
 

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Hmm. Ford announced the Lightning in 2021 claiming first sales would be 2022. They managed to maintain that schedule- all during the Covid years. GM announced the Silverado EV in 2022 and kept their schedule to have them on sale in 2023 - all while still recovering from Covid diminished supply lines. So what was Tesla’s excuse? Likely they were enjoying the $100 million interest free loan from all those deposits.
Neither was announced BEFORE Covid and still met their schedule.

And how long were these in development behind closed doors? Elon likes to open his development doors.

It’s far easier to make an announcement in 21 or 22 knowing what the world looks like than in 19 and having NO idea what was about to happen. And considering that this had never happened before, there was no way to predict…
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