3mm stainless steel - wow

[greggertruck]

Also weight and manufacturability

This. More than money, weight.

They put Cybertruck on a diet many times along the Alpha road..

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[MonkeyDeLuffy]

This. More than money, weight.

They put Cybertruck on a diet many times along the Alpha road..

Typical Elon marketing, remember he said that 'CT is a product comes once in a lifetime'. Sure, because only cost saving version comes alive, and live once.

 

[HaulingAss]

Arguably Ford's 2015 move to aluminum was one of the boldest moves to trucks. Tesla's SS will be similar but Ford took one impressive BOLD step. (#1 truck, vehicle repair implications/3rd party/etc)

Ford's move to non-structural aluminum body panels was a baby step compared to Tesla's move to a structural body formed from cold rolled stainless steel!

 

[jerhenderson]

If you haven’t paid attention since November 2019 then yes, I am. I do agree with you that, from a legacy OEM’s point of view at least, saving weight and money would be the way to go. But the Cybertruck was always intended to be ‘over the top’, with a bulletproof skin, armored glass, biodefense mode, etc. which of these would the legacy OEMs not shed because they are unnecessary and costly? Let me see, all of them.

The reality is that Tesla has been talking about features, and about the stainless steel, all along. Tesla has publicly announced changes that related to the unveiling: dimensions, the addition of a 4th motor, addition of 4WS. On the other hand, Franz talked about the difficulty of working with thick, ultra hard, stainless steel just a couple months ago.

Anyway, you and I look at this whole thing differently, and I can accept that. I can also accept my reasoning being wrong. I just haven’t seen or heard any evidence of this change, but we will certainly know in a couple of months.

so many people haven't paid attention and seeing their questions is annoying AF.

 

[cvalue13]

I just haven’t seen or heard any evidence of this change, but we will certainly know in a couple of months.

I feel I’ve seen just enough to have no strong prediction. I’ll be equally surprised either way

for one, the Tesla history of purported features has a lot of examples of zig-zags and surprises. for years the Model Y was going to have falcon wing doors.

meanwhile, the Beta’s have been poor and mixed intel. on one hand, they’re betas and so who knows what’s placeholder vs intended production parts. on the other hand, things about the Betas raise an eyebrow about the panel thickness.

eg in various shots the doors appear to have a different finish and color tone than the other panels. The waviness in the rear quarterpanel’s seem consistent with buckling at attachment points, which seems odd for 3mm. Then there are high quality video of edges of quarterpanels that don’t strike one as particularly 3mm-ish.

That’s just stuff in the ‘huh, who knows’ bucket; equal amounts in the other bucket.

The betas did not display all the features of the RCs. So who really knows.

Defaulting to what Musk last said is as good/bad a guiding principle as any!

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

This. More than money, weight.

They put Cybertruck on a diet many times along the Alpha road..

They reduced the size but not for the weight (if you believe Tesla, which many here do not). What are these ‘many’ diets you are referring to?

 

[Cyberman]

This part doesn't look 3mm. Not RCs etc but you would hope these details would be at least close to being worked out at this stage..

That is some bullshit.

 

[Cyberman]

Correct! 3mm is roughly 1/8”.

I highly doubt if the frunk skin and fenders will be 3mm thick because of the frontal crumple zone. Also, look at the under hood support stamping. That alone tells me that the frunk skin is thinner than 3mm.

The drivers door skin looks pretty thick however

Sure looks like 3mm from here, if you sight along the frunk edge on the right side of pic.

 

[Cyberman]

They reduced the size but not for the weight (if you believe Tesla, which many here do not). What are these ‘many’ diets you are referring to?

Don't tell anyone I leaked this, but there are lightening cuts in the structure and internal frame (i.e. the sail structure) and other places.

 

[Prime8]

That is some bullshit.

That one cut looks like it was done by a kid with a can opener!

 

[greggertruck]

They reduced the size but not for the weight (if you believe Tesla, which many here do not). What are these ‘many’ diets you are referring to?

One diet they’ve already publicly stated is the 48v architecture move. Greatly reducing the wiring harness weight, cost, and complexity.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

One diet they’ve already publicly stated is the 48v architecture move. Greatly reducing the wiring harness weight, cost, and complexity.

Hmm, in my universe '1' does not translate to 'many'. That said, I do not know if the 48v architecture should be considered a diet as there was never a CT design that articulated a non-48v architecture. I accept the premise that the 48v architecture wiring will weigh less than the 12v architecture of the Model Y.

 

[TyPope]

Hmm, in my universe '1' does not translate to 'many'. That said, I do not know if the 48v architecture should be considered a diet as there was never a CT design that articulated a non-48v architecture. I accept the premise that the 48v architecture wiring will weigh less than the 12v architecture of the Model Y.

Plus, the whole thing about making it 3% smaller than when announced. That's 2.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Plus, the whole thing about making it 3% smaller than when announced. That's 2.

I had already accommodated that in my first response. The change in size was motivated seemingly not for weight but for other reasons (e.g., fitting in a garage and fitting into parking spaces). The weight change is a byproduct of the size change. That said, I do not think that '2' qualifies for 'many' either. We have had this kind of discussion before. Two is a 'couple'. Three is a 'few'. Five is a 'handful'. Where is the boundary for 'many'?

https://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/bi...s defined as a,the exact number is indistinct.

 

[greggertruck]

I had already accommodated that in my first response. The change in size was motivated seemingly not for weight but for other reasons (e.g., fitting in a garage and fitting into parking spaces). The weight change is a byproduct of the size change. That said, I do not think that '2' qualifies for 'many' either. We have had this kind of discussion before. Two is a 'couple'. Three is a 'few'. Five is a 'handful'. Where is the boundary for 'many'?

https://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/bid-153449-lsat-quantity-terminology-some-few-several-and-many/#:~:text=Many is defined as a,the exact number is indistinct.

The ramp is gone too. Bed is a composite material, not stainless steel anymore. There's more.

I too look forward to hearing about the others.

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