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Let me start by saying that I've always loved Tesla as a company and the vehicles they make. Heck, I just purchased my 5th Tesla. I credit Tesla for making a resilient series of vehicles including the Model 3, which saved my life a few years ago after a driver ran a red light going 50mph and T-Boned my Model 3 on the driver's side. It's because of this, that I was most excited about purchasing the CyberTruck the day it was announced. The drivers in Miami and generally South Florida are pretty bad. I wanted to be in a vehicle that should I find myself in a similar accident, I know I'm walking away. However taking delivery of the CyberTruck in early March has left me more frustrated and nervous than ever before. I still love the truck, but my faith in Tesla as a company has bottomed out.

March 5th, I took delivery of the Cybertruck, a few days later the vehicle essentially died due to a flaw in the power converter. There were several customers experiencing the same issue and many of us were waiting weeks if not months for our trucks. Tesla never issued a recall for the issue. In June, I attempted to contact Tesla about using our $2,500 credit towards the purchase a Powerwall, but Tesla informed me that was not possible as the credit could not be applied to items not in the Tesla Store. That purchase is located elsewhere within the Tesla site. I had also placed an extra deposit on the range extender which I hoped would be available before the end of the year, but that was unlikely. While owning the truck for 8 months, I watched as a series of hardware recalls went out, for the gas pedal, the wiper motor, the bed, and then eventually the Inverter. As I understood it, the truck could lose power at any moment with no notice.

The inverter recall presented a problem for me as I am a Realtor in South Florida and I often take my clients for rides as we look at property. The vast majority of my clients come from out of state and aren't familiar with the area. If I didn't warn them of the possibility and I had an accident, I would be directly liable. This would also put my credibility on the line as I have a fiduciary duty to my clients to disclose defects in property I become aware of. Not disclosing the recall on the CyberTruck could call into question my honesty. A number of my clients refused to ride in the truck due to safety concerns and ultimately I lost business.

In mid to late November, I attempted to bring my Cybertruck in for Service. The earliest service appointment I could book was over 2 months out. I attempted to make my case too Tesla Service, however they cited they couldn't affect the repair until the replacement part arrived. They first shared it would take a week. I followed up, week after week, after week, and each week I was told the part would arrive a week later. Frustrated where this was going, I attempted to Trade my CyberTruck in favor of purchasing another Cybertruck that was free of any defects and recalls. However, I learned Tesla was not accepting CyberTruck Trade-ins and I couldn't sell it to a 3rd party without violating the Tesla Contract.

I wrote a letter to Tesla Corporate in Austin, TX, sharing my concerns about my safety and the fact that Tesla had shared no solution from their end. I requested that I be allowed to sell it. A few weeks had gone by when someone from Tesla Corporate reached out and shared they would look into it and that I should follow-up with them the following week. In the mean time, the General Sales Manager at the Tesla Fort Lauderdale location reached out and informed me that Tesla Sales would not offer a Buy Back, Tesla Service would not offer a Buy Back either. I had 4 recalls on the vehicle and there were issue with the tailgate opening, alignment issues with the center consul and issues with the tonneau working. The General Sales Manager did give me permission to sell the Cybertruck to a 3rd party (Carvana). So that's what I did. However I had issues with the "Service Required" indicator on the screen due to the recall. Ultimately Carvana only gave me $71,000 for my $108,000 (in change) purchased resulting in a $37,000 loss in value of which Tesla was tight lipped on. That also didn't include the $6,000 in modifications like the light bar and wraps. Regardless, I still liked the CyberTruck and opted to purchase another. I followed-up with the General Sales Manager asking about whether the Range Extender order would transfer, but he seemed more concerned about my payment for the new purchase and never followed-up with me regarding my questions. The same went for the corporate advisor. I never received an answer.

So I took delivery of my new CyberTruck. I was without a vehicle for 2 days and heavily replied on Uber. I arrived a little early to my appointment and learned that the Cybertruck was not ready. So I waited an hour until it was. Eventually they pointed me in the direction of the truck without asking for identification, which I found shocking). I had not told them that I had [previously purchased the Cybertruck, so I was expecting they would show me at least 1 or 2 features, but they didn't. They walked me to the truck and then walked away. I looked around and for the most part everything looked good. They informed me that the vehicle had less than a 10% charge and I could either wait 40 minutes for them to charge it, or I could just drive to a supercharging station and I would be issued a credit. I opted for the latter. While driving it, I noticed a very loud thumping noise and decided to wait until I was at the Supercharger to check it out. I discovered the rear drivers side tire had a massive chunk of tread missing from it, as if someone had cut it out leaving it bald. I attempted to call the sales line 3 times before giving up and driving back. Ultimately, they said this was a service issue (which was backed up) and would take several hours. Frustrated, I took the loaner. They didn't have a back-up tire and offered to replace all 4 tires before delivering it. I retuned a few hours later and of course the truck wasn't ready, so I waited another hour before I was able to pick it up.
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In the days that followed, I never heard back from the General Sales Manager with my questions, in fact I never even met him. The corporate advisor never followed up with my questions. I was still waiting to hear back as to whether Tesla Corporate would have even done a Buy Back or reimbursed me for my losses. I never heard back regarding my Range Extender order, whether it was transferable to the new truck. And now I am having issues getting the tonneau to open & close. Seems I have to press it multiple times and hold it down for it to work. Ultimately my experience has left me feeling as though Tesla doesn't in fact care about its customers, just cares about getting paid. It feels entirely like a completely different company compared to 10 years ago.

I plan to write a follow-up letter to Tesla Corporate, but to be honest I really have zero confidence in Tesla's resolution team based on these recent experiences.
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Ultimately Carvana only gave me $71,000 for my $108,000 (in change) purchased resulting in a $37,000 loss in value of which Tesla was tight lipped on. That also didn't include the $6,000 in modifications like the light bar and wrap
So, just to clarify I read your post correctly. You sold your first Cybertruck to Carvana for a $37K loss? If that is correct, why? All your issues are covered under your warranty. Yes, Tesla might take a bit of time to fix everything, but why sell it when your issues are repairable, and Tesla won't buy it back?
 
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Because Tesla couldn't give me a timeframe on the repair. There was no guarantee that the parts would arrive before the service date. They kept telling me that the parts would arrive the following week, 3 times in a row. I don't have another vehicle. So renting a truck would cost me an additional $1,000 a week when you include insurance coverages etc considering that most of the rentals are sold out in my area anyway because South Florida is a popular Christmas and new years destination. Look the fact is time is money. Each client that declines to ride in the truck due to the 4 outstanding hardware recalls, is business lost. I never expected that the vehicle would be plagued with so many issues and that Tesla wouldn't be so responsive. Look I was still waiting for the hubcaps, not to mention that it took 4 years to deliver the vehicle, I was really feeling like these issues might not be addressed in this decade.
 

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Wow, you have said it all, this sums up the Tesla owners experience of being on the wrong side of a lemon.

Glad your other five prior Teslas had all the bugs worked out.

This long story is the second reason why I am waiting a few years on the CT, get all the beta bugs worked out.

It just goes on and on and on…like the original MS.

The first is always the price.

Too much $$$,$$$.$$ for a 50/50 chance!

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I feel your pain. My truck died with just over 10,000 miles on it. I was in drive and waiting to enter into traffic when it started to roll backward. I did a reset but the errors kept popping up. When the traffic behind me cleared, I put it in reverse to return to the parking lot. My steering then gave out. When I turned the wheel, it went in the opposite direction. Errors were "traction control disabled," "adaptive ride control degraded," stability control disabled," and "emergency braking not available". That was December 7th. I'm waiting on an ABS modular, ESC sensor, and a hydraulic control unit. That is a lot of parts for a new truck! Vin 73**
 


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Because Tesla couldn't give me a timeframe on the repair. There was no guarantee that the parts would arrive before the service date. They kept telling me that the parts would arrive the following week, 3 times in a row. I don't have another vehicle. So renting a truck would cost me an additional $1,000 a week when you include insurance coverages etc considering that most of the rentals are sold out in my area anyway because South Florida is a popular Christmas and new years destination. Look the fact is time is money. Each client that declines to ride in the truck due to the 4 outstanding hardware recalls, is business lost. I never expected that the vehicle would be plagued with so many issues and that Tesla wouldn't be so responsive. Look I was still waiting for the hubcaps, not to mention that it took 4 years to deliver the vehicle, I was really feeling like these issues might not be addressed in this decade.
I'm confused on why you didn't just take a loaner and wait for the issue to be fixed. It seems like that would be better than negotiating with Tesla for some sort of reimbursement or credit for time without the truck. Did it make the most sense to sell it for a loss if the vehicle was still under warranty? What was your rush?
 
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I'm confused on why you didn't just take a loaner and wait for the issue to be fixed. It seems like that would be better than negotiating with Tesla for some sort of reimbursement or credit for time without the truck. Did it make the most sense to sell it for a loss if the vehicle was still under warranty? What was your rush?
No one at Tesla, not a person at corporate, anyone from service, or sales ever offered a loaner. I couldn't risk driving it long distances. The rush was that the truck's recalls were cutting into my business. Clients had expressed concerns about riding in a vehicle that had 4 recalls on it, including the Inverter recall. Yes, I could have rented a vehicle and spent $1,000 a week on a rental during our busiest time of year for an unknown number of weeks or months and ask Tesla for reimbursement, but to be honest, it just seemed less and less likely Tesla was going to do anything in that arena. I understand your argument that the vehicle was under warranty, but when the company with the warranty cannot give you a timeframe for a repair... that's concerning. As someone who has worked in the automotive industry, most dealerships and companies would have come up with a solution, but Tesla's solution was literally to do nothing. It's very frustrating.
 
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Look, I can't even seem to get an answer from Tesla regarding whether the Range Extender Deposit I made will transfer to the new truck... so what are the odds I'm going to receive any answer on reimbursement.
 

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I'm sorry to hear you're going through all of this. It's shocking how no one at Tesla is accountable for responding to you and taking care of the issues. This is the one thing I dislike about Tesla: if you go off piste with their normal processes you're stuck in limbo.
 

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Or a lemon law situation? Florida law on lemons isn't that bad, is it?

I dunno, there's some baffling choices.

If your customers didn't like the first truck, why buy a second one?
The truck would only open to your key code, so anyone else pointed to the truck wouldn't be able to do anything to it, identification or no.
Why were the tires on an ostensibly new truck covered in mud?
That damage is like from a sharp edge or single object; there's visible striations.

And then you wanted someone to personally... Something?

Baffling. You must've had a terrible year. Much condolences. They're worried about riding in a vehicle that has had recalls? It's the rare car that hasn't had any.

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Makes no sense at all to me. Covered under warranty, Clients dont know anything about the status of your recalls, inverter failure could be sporty but I wouldnt freak out about it if my truck was on the recall list, just get it fixed, not going to blow up. And worst case I'd have spent $37k toward a Model 3P and got another bad ass car vs. giving it away. My 2 cents, you had your good reasons so roll with it!
 

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I feel your pain. My truck died with just over 10,000 miles on it. I was in drive and waiting to enter into traffic when it started to roll backward. I did a reset but the errors kept popping up. When the traffic behind me cleared, I put it in reverse to return to the parking lot. My steering then gave out. When I turned the wheel, it went in the opposite direction. Errors were "traction control disabled," "adaptive ride control degraded," stability control disabled," and "emergency braking not available". That was December 7th. I'm waiting on an ABS modular, ESC sensor, and a hydraulic control unit. That is a lot of parts for a new truck! Vin 73**
I got all those error codes and it turned out to be an internal failure of the ABS and the part was on back order. It took about three weeks to get repaired. No issues since.
 

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Not good. I have had the absolute opposite experience from an owners perspective (early March) and delivery/service from Fort Lauderdale Tesla. My truck has had zero issues and the team at the dealership has been very responsive to my questions. I really enjoy this truck but also realize as a gen 1 truck there may be issues at any point that will require service. I don’t care though because this truck is absolutely bad ass!
 

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Having read reviews of the nearby Tesla service/delivery centers, I was fortunate to pick mine up at the more favored one.

Given that Tesla centers are all company owned and not independent dealerships, I would have thought there would be more consistency among them. Apparently not.
 

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The inverter recall presented a problem for me as I am a Realtor in South Florida and I often take my clients for rides as we look at property. The vast majority of my clients come from out of state and aren't familiar with the area. If I didn't warn them of the possibility and I had an accident, I would be directly liable. This would also put my credibility on the line as I have a fiduciary duty to my clients to disclose defects in property I become aware of. Not disclosing the recall on the CyberTruck could call into question my honesty. A number of my clients refused to ride in the truck due to safety concerns and ultimately I lost business.
You pick clients up in your brand new first gen product of which you claim you have had 4 recalls, but you don't go through the lemon law process?

Do you personally own this vehicle, or is operated and insured commercially?

Each client that declines to ride in the truck due to the 4 outstanding hardware recalls, is business lost.
Is it standard practice in your industry to list out the recalls of a vehicle before allowing them to get in?

Ultimately Carvana only gave me $71,000 for my $108,000 (in change) purchased resulting in a $37,000 loss in value
So ... you completely abandon any kind of formal business resolution and sell your truck for a huge loss instead of either 1) procuring some sort of backup transportation for your business or 2) just buying another vehicle while your CT gets sorted out?

Lots of things not making sense here, and I smell FUD in the highest order. I don't believe your story is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
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