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Second line:
off-road - OR00 = ?
#drv ---rdo8=dual motor?
Drive - DV4W = 4wheel drive?

Third line:
Interior
Tires
Wheel
Note that the corresponding designation reflects the category: eg “Towing” category has the designation “TW01”, “Battery” category has the designation “BT46”, “Bed” category has the designation “BD01”

so second line:

Off-Road = OR00 (off road variant 00)
?? = RD08
Drive = DR4W (Drive variant 4-wheel)

third line:

?? = IC03 (your guess is good, but “IC”?)
?? = SA02 (your guess is good w/ “seats”)
Wheels = WHDB

Some of the other variants are so obvious (eg DR4W) it makes one wonder what Batter variant “46” could be

460 miles?
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This feels like copium.

Ford put a truck out to test the market and learn. I own 10 of them and they are great vehicles.

theres a whole line of bespoke ev trucks and suvs coming from the blue oval. Counting out their ability to make a compelling, functional and in demand series of vehicles is going to prove out to be a fool’s errand


So Ford keeps the same design, removes the engine, and makes it a huge frunk and now people want to judge by frunk size? I don't get it. Ford took the path of least resistance to get an EV truck out before Tesla by not really designing anything new and people now set that as the standard by which all frunks should be measured. Ford's design is now function follows form whereas Tesla's is form follows function. They built and designed an EV truck from the ground up. They didn't just rip out an engine, transmission, and gas tank from an ICE truck and replace it with batteries and a couple motors. What else was Ford gonna do with an empty engine bay? They didn't have time to design it out and they wanted to keep their loyalists happy.
 

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The frunk looks horribly crowded with junk. Looks like the only thing that's removable is that Jackery-like power pack. Everything else looks like it's hardware. That frunk has less room than the one in my Model 3.
You wouldn't be able to fit that full-sized power pack in the front of a model 3
 


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Im pretty sure a lot of these trucks were put together with "just good enough" parts to get testing. Im guessing they have a scrap pile of prototype pieces they use to get another truck on the road to beat the crap out of and gather data. Think SpaceX approach here.... Its better than a flying water tower, but not quite to Mars. But getting closer.
 

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So Ford keeps the same design, removes the engine, and makes it a huge frunk and now people want to judge by frunk size? I don't get it. Ford took the path of least resistance to get an EV truck out before Tesla by not really designing anything new and people now set that as the standard by which all frunks should be measured. Ford's design is now function follows form whereas Tesla's is form follows function. They built and designed an EV truck from the ground up. They didn't just rip out an engine, transmission, and gas tank from an ICE truck and replace it with batteries and a couple motors. What else was Ford gonna do with an empty engine bay? They didn't have time to design it out and they wanted to keep their loyalists happy.
where was this energy when for the last 4 years this forum was packed with “CT Frunk going to dwarf the Lightning’s” “CT Frunk going to be HUGE!!” Etc?

you’re maybe not doing a pivot (I don’t know what you used to say about frunks), but as a class the forum has gone from “it’ll make Lightning Frunk look like a small joke” to one of either:

“I’m disappointed it’s not as big as I was told by people who turned out to not know”

or

“why should anyone care about a Frunk (that for 4 years I’ve been championing as being huge)

personally, I own a Lightning and don’t care much that the CT Frunk will be 1/2 the volume. Both because I never bought the “it’ll be huge” salesmanship, so I’m not disappointed, and also because what the CT Frunk “lacks” compared to lightning it makes up for with other features not on the Lightning.

so, boils down to, what’s the price …
 

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So Ford keeps the same design, removes the engine, and makes it a huge frunk and now people want to judge by frunk size? I don't get it. Ford took the path of least resistance to get an EV truck out before Tesla by not really designing anything new and people now set that as the standard by which all frunks should be measured. Ford's design is now function follows form whereas Tesla's is form follows function. They built and designed an EV truck from the ground up. They didn't just rip out an engine, transmission, and gas tank from an ICE truck and replace it with batteries and a couple motors. What else was Ford gonna do with an empty engine bay? They didn't have time to design it out and they wanted to keep their loyalists happy.
Excuse me, but it was Tesla who first named the frunk a frunk, while I agree with all your assessments about ford I nevertheless expect a frunk to be a frunk, regardless of size.
 


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Perhaps I'm misremembering, but I believe the term was first used for the Model S.
 

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This feels like copium.

Ford put a truck out to test the market and learn. I own 10 of them and they are great vehicles.

theres a whole line of bespoke ev trucks and suvs coming from the blue oval. Counting out their ability to make a compelling, functional and in demand series of vehicles is going to prove out to be a fool’s errand
I don't think they put it out just to test the market or learn. They have hundreds of engineers that were likely given a strict deadline to push out a product. You can tell just by looking at the architecture of the vehicle. Range, cost, and efficiency are going to determine sales in the truck market. Ford has so many distributers to keep happy with all their various parts, they won't be able to compete. Tesla is going after their bread and butter so it'll be interesting how the next 2-3 years plays out once Tesla has ramped production.

Don't get me wrong, i am not against Ford by any means. I just feel like they took the easy road here and people are patting them on the back because they have a huge frunk.

If a vehicle did not require a large v8 engine and multi-gear transmission, would it still be designed to have a large box in the front?
 

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Note that the corresponding designation reflects the category: eg “Towing” category has the designation “TW01”, “Battery” category has the designation “BT46”, “Bed” category has the designation “BD01”

so second line:

Off-Road = OR00 (off road variant 00)
?? = RD08
Drive = DR4W (Drive variant 4-wheel)

third line:

?? = IC03 (your guess is good, but “IC”?)
?? = SA02 (your guess is good w/ “seats”)
Wheels = WHDB

Some of the other variants are so obvious (eg DR4W) it makes one wonder what Batter variant “46” could be

460 miles?
IC01 - Interior Color?
SA02 = SOLAR ARRAY!!! ... probably not....
SA02 = Seating arrangment? Options for rear seats?
 

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If a vehicle did not require a large v8 engine and multi-gear transmission, would it still be designed to have a large box in the front?
you’ll find out in 2024/2025 when Ford’s first ground-up BEV truck platform is announced/produced

And while it’s true the Lightning is on the F150 platform, what’s Chevy’s excuse?

regardless, I don’t understand the point

saying eg “why does Ford get credit for making that space useable and utilization” seems to have an obvious answer

because it’s usable and utilitarian

and you seem to be missing that the CyberTruck is exactly an example of what you’re critiquing:

there is just as much space between the dashboard and bumper of the CT as there is in the Lightning

the CT’s is just used to house a lot of equipment

and that’s just fine
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