No Resale Provision is Back

[tmeyer3]

Keep in mind that any for profit company has the right to refuse service to anyone. Most companies, Tesla included, expects you to "operate in good faith." Obvious attempts to maliciously pull shenanigans with fine print stuff can quickly result in a loss of service. I do the same with the businesses I own--it is neigh impossible to account for every scenario and every angle that a malicious actor could exploit in fine print.

Edit: I strongly encourage all to stay far away from reservation sellers/selling.

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[CyberGus]

what would trigger tesla to investigate a sale that occurs 12 months after original purchase.

You would need to process a sale through your Tesla account to transfer app control, unless your lease agreement also includes use of your phone for 12 months

 

[Wideopenmoto]

So are you guys saying it’s not possible to sell the CT for a year?

 

[freakyguy666]

You would need to process a sale through your Tesla account to transfer app control, unless your lease agreement also includes use of your phone for 12 months

Correct. In the “loan” scenario I was describing, there would be no app control for a potential buyer until after the 12month period has lapsed.

 

[HaulingAss]

It says a lot about you when you imply scalpers are not honest people.

People who breach the terms of agreements (contracts) they sign are, by definition, not honest people. Because by signing the agreement, they agree to abide by all the provisions.

The law does not look favorably upon people who breach contracts. What do you think it means to sign something you have no intention of honoring?

 

[freakyguy666]

Keep in mind that any for profit company has the right to refuse service to anyone. Most companies, Tesla included, expects you to "operate in good faith." Obvious attempts to maliciously pull shenanigans with fine print stuff can quickly result in a loss of service. I do the same with the businesses I own--it is neigh impossible to account for every scenario and every angle that a malicious actor could exploit in fine print.

Edit: I strongly encourage all to stay far away from reservation sellers/selling.

yes and there is nothing to rouse suspicion if the sale occurs after the requisite 12months.

 

[freakyguy666]

People who breach the terms of agreements (contracts) they sign are, by definition, not honest people. Because by signing the agreement, they agree to abide by all the provisions.

The law does not look favorably upon people who breach contracts. What do you think it means to sign something you have no intention of honoring?

You clearly missed the distinction…

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/no-resale-provision-is-back.10397/post-209322

 

[CyberGus]

Correct. In the “loan” scenario I was describing, there would be no app control for a potential buyer until after the 12month period has lapsed.

Lack of app control is a significant impediment to such an agreement. It would also enable you to track their location, spy on them with sentry mode, etc.

And if you ever angered them, they could rat you out to Tesla.

The whole thing seems problematic

 

[HaulingAss]

yes and there is nothing to rouse suspicion if the sale occurs after the requisite 12months.

That's a pretty big assumption, one I'm not willing to make.

If you breach the terms of a purchase and sale agreement, there are a lot of ways the seller could become aware of that breach (other than transfer of title).

 

[freakyguy666]

Lack of app control is a significant impediment to such an agreement. It would also enable you to track their location, spy on them with sentry mode, etc.

And if you ever angered them, they could rat you out to Tesla.

The whole thing seems problematic

not problematic in the slightest if you find a trustworthy party who is highly motivated. Not hard to do in my neck of the woods.

 

[HaulingAss]

You clearly missed the distinction…

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/no-resale-provision-is-back.10397/post-209322

Yes, we are speaking of wannabe Cybertruck scalpers here. Try to stay on topic or the theater will bloom into something too large and unmanagable to have a meaningful conversation.

 

[freakyguy666]

Yes, we are speaking of wannabe Cybertruck scalpers here. Try to stay on topic or the theater will bloom into something too large and unmanagable to have a meaningful conversation.

A blanket statement such as “scalpers are dishonest” can be made in any forum and given it is unqualified, the correct interpretation would be that it is in reference to all scalpers.

Your choice to qualify it to only potential scalpers of the CT is an assumption.

I prefer to not assume but you do you…

 

[freakyguy666]

That's a pretty big assumption, one I'm not willing to make.

If you breach the terms of a purchase and sale agreement, there are a lot of ways the seller could become aware of that breach (other than transfer of title).

For the umpteenth time, it’s not a breach if you do not make the sale until after the requisite 12 months.

 

[CyberGus]

For the umpteenth time, it’s not a breach if you do not make the sale until after the requisite 12 months.

That’s debatable, given the language in the sales agreement

 

[tmeyer3]

yes and there is nothing to rouse suspicion if the sale occurs after the requisite 12months.

The need to generate some plan to overtly avoid suspicion is, at it's core, the very problem here. This is NOT in good faith.

I prefer to not assume but you do you…

You're clearly assuming lots while dancing around fine print ?

Are you trying to find a way to sell a reservation here or just trying to make a point?

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