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Road noise/audio system only, the suspension feels totally different and I can’t think off a good reference, you’ll have to experience it yourself. Yes I did.
Edit: Wife agreed on the X7 comparison, she has better hearing, I played too much FPS.
2nd Edit: Wife complaint about the seat being too hard (I think it's the same as a S/X), and the headrest shape force her to tilt forward (she's 5'5'')
Comment ref the headrest shape: same reaction from my copilot when I first got my TM3 in June 2018. I pulled both headrests and (in a controlled fashion in a friend's workshop) bent the two mounting posts such that when the headrests were reinstalled, one no longer had ones head uncomfortably forced so far forward.
 

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Wowzah, that is an astronomical insurance number for $100k vehicle.
Got rid of my 2024 RAM recently which was $100k and insurance was $187/M.
I recommend evryone get their own insurance quotes from at least 2-3 companies. Not only does insurance vary widely depending upon the driver and especially their address, it also varies a lot from company to company. Additionally, you cannot trust that anonomous insurance quotes posted on the Internet are true.
 

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Does it have PPF over the Foundation logo on the sides?
 


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One thing that surprised me is there is no auto-steer. I thought only FSD is not available, but apparently so is auto-steer and auto-lane change.
Now all the naysayers who claim Tesla's AutoPilot and FSD is worthless crap will make a ruckus until it's available. ?
 

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Clearly not as the picture clearly shows there’s a 1/8” to 3/16” gap where there should be no gap.
Why do you say there should be no gap? I'm pretty sure the engineering intent is to maintain a tiny positive clearance between the panels and the plastic trim. I agree that the clearance should be smaller, but I also think the photo that stirred up the hornets nest makes the gap look a lot bigger than it is due to the closeness of the photo and perspective distortion.


The the CT needs to be put together at least as good as a f150.

You mean like my 2010 F-150 that has leaked rainwater into the cabin from new, and dripped off the passenger grab-handle, making the carpet on the floor persistently wet and moldy smelling? Three Ford Dealerships said it wouldn't leak for them, so they can't fix it. We just hang a small pail from the grabhandle and empty it out ofter it rains to try to keep the carpet dry.

Is that what you mean when you say "at least as good as an F-150"? Ha-ha, good joke.

What next the bed cover and windows leak water. Well it’s just a little water so it’s fine.
Like my 2010 F-150 ever since we purchased it new? Yeah, I can see the road through the gaps in the bed assembly and a little muddy water can spray through the cracks in the bed, even when the BakFlip tonneau cover is on. Oh, and the Backflip cover is mostly water-resistant, but under the right conditions it leaks a little water in the bed too.

Neither of these leaks in the bed are a big deal but on a Tesla forum people would be whining like a pack of hyenas with a fresh kill.
 

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FSD doesn’t really work for anyone. You just get a beta which is currently a fun toy not a tool. I have had the Beta since the beginning. It’s a novelty.
My wife and I have three cars with FSD beta and it's far more than a novelty and it keeps getting better every several months. The progress is mind-blowing, even if it's far behind Elon's overly optimistic expectations.

We both use FSD almost every drive, as a driver assistance function, I'm amazed at how well it works on dirt roads and twisty two lane highways at 50 mph. Passengers usually can't even tell when I'm using it. In more complex traffic situations It's a little slow to take the right-of-way sometimes, which can be awkward, so I generally drive fully manually when I need to navigate through roundabouts and stop signs. It's just too cautious. When I let it do it's thing, it generally safely navigates these situations, it's just a little too cautious for me so I still drive manually to not disrupt the flow of traffic in roundabouts and intersections.

I guess it's also a novelty because my passengers are almost always blown away by what it can do. I gave a 80-year-old shut-in a 30-mile ride to get his old tube amplifier fixed and used FSD the entire distance. When we were getting close to the destination, the conversation turned towards Tesla's "self-driving feature" and he commented that he would never ride in a car being driven by a computer. I told him the entire ride was in FSD mode, but he didn't react, so I don't think he understood me. I let him rest in his ignorance. I think he was so sure it couldn't be true that he didn't believe it. Or else he felt really stupid that he couldn't tell a computer was driving. Probably the former, I didn't ask.
 
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Hello Susu2142, Hope your trip is going well. Could you please post some number on the range like wh/mile etc.
Thanks for sharing the helpful information.
Ok I'm back, please note I'm no battery range expert, and this is no controlled test. It's just what I see from my driving style:

Trip A:
From south bay to Lake Berryessa to Sacramento. Stopped by the supercharger at Davis for some battery juice. 70% highway, 30% county roads with some twisties. 440 Wh/mi.

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Trip B:
Sacramento back to the bay area on I5/I580. All highway, tried to keep the speed around 75-80mph, but got caught in some light traffic. 419 Wh/mi.

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Charging at Davis:
40mins to charge from 25-80%, 73kWh.
 


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Just wait till someone gets killed in crash if you wanna see the true blood in the water moment.
Huh? About 3,700 individuals die in fatal traffic accidents every single day. Pedestrians, bicyclists, passengers, drivers, etc. And you think one fatal Cybertruck crash is going to cause blood in the woter? :unsure: Tesla is reducing the accident and death rates, not increasing them.

I'm not sure what definition of "blood in the water" you are using, but I can tell you it's simply not going to matter, even after the media tries to hype it up.
 

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My wife and I have three cars with FSD beta and it's far more than a novelty and it keeps getting better every several months. The progress is mind-blowing, even if it's far behind Elon's overly optimistic expectations.

We both use FSD almost every drive, as a driver assistance function, I'm amazed at how well it works on dirt roads and twisty two lane highways at 50 mph. Passengers usually can't even tell when I'm using it. In more complex traffic situations It's a little slow to take the right-of-way sometimes, which can be awkward, so I generally drive fully manually when I need to navigate through roundabouts and stop signs. It's just too cautious. When I let it do it's thing, it generally safely navigates these situations, it's just a little too cautious for me so I still drive manually to not disrupt the flow of traffic in roundabouts and intersections.

I guess it's also a novelty because my passengers are almost always blown away by what it can do. I gave a 80-year-old shut-in a 30-mile ride to get his old tube amplifier fixed and used FSD the entire distance. When we were getting close to the destination, the conversation turned towards Tesla's "self-driving feature" and he commented that he would never ride in a car being driven by a computer. I told him the entire ride was in FSD mode, but he didn't react, so I don't think he understood me. I let him rest in his ignorance. I think he was so sure it couldn't be true that he didn't believe it. Or else he felt really stupid that he couldn't tell a computer was driving. Probably the former, I didn't ask.
What you just described is 2-3 years from being what it’s supposed to be. It’s a neat demo. But takes even more attention a diligence to use safely.

Autopilot is helpful on the hwy. on city streets FSd can be downright scary. I have to constantly intervene.
 

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correct. all current autosteer profiles are calibrated to steering systems with mechanical linkages, and that alone means its going to be different and need special attention to calibrate and pass certifications.
Not really. Because Autosteer on electro-mechanical steering systems works the same way as it will on pure electrical drive by wire, by controlling electic motors on the steering rack.

The primary difference is they will need to power the motor to the steering wheel to follow what the rack is doing. It should lead to an improved disengage function, when the driver steers against the computer, perhaps more graceful to exit AP/FSD by using the steering wheel.
 

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Ok I'm back, please note I'm no battery range expert, and this is no controlled test. It's just what I see from my driving style:
Trip A: from south bay to Lake Berryessa to Sacramento. Stopped by the supercharger at Davis for some battery juice. 70% highway, 30% county roads with some twisties. 440 Wh/mi.
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Trip B:
Sacramento back to the bay area on I5/I580. All highway, tried to keep the speed around 75-80mph, but got caught in some light traffic. 419 Wh/mi.
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Charging at Davis: 40mins to charge from 25-80%, 73kWh.
Very nice. These are good numbers.
Thanks a ton for sharing.
 

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Not really. Because Autosteer on electro-mechanical steering systems works the same way as it will on pure electrical drive by wire, by controlling electic motors on the steering rack.

The primary difference is they will need to power the motor to the steering wheel to follow what the rack is doing. It should lead to an improved disengage function, when the driver steers against the computer, perhaps more graceful to exit AP/FSD by using the steering wheel.
The fundamental difference is that the wheel needs to be programmed with different fail safes and overrides since it's not mechanically linked.

Steer by wire will eventually enable unprecedented safety, but they must be very careful not to rush the development. If they miss anything critical, it can cost lives and send the program back decades or worse.

There is a lot on the line, and most people just don't understand their seriousness of vehicle certifications lol.
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