10,000+ Miles Driving a Cybertruck – Things learned: range, great sound and full love/hate list after 10k miles

[jookyone]

No one wants a 2013 S, 2016 X or 2018 3

You couldn't be more wrong. They did in 2013, 2016 and 2018 respectively. And the demand for those cars is higher than ever because it affords people the opportunity to own a Tesla at an extreme discount. The prices couldn't be better for those unable to buy new and want an entry point into EV that isn't a Leaf or a Bolt. There is a literal reason for the term "early adopter" and if it weren't for early adopters the rest of it wouldn't exist.

Do a search for 2013 BMW 5 Series on cars.com for the top 3 models that were comparable (in price) to the Tesla Model S at the time. The values are all lower by about $10k and there are fewer of them for sale (longevity?). This is a heuristic litmus of comparable vehicles by price and time. If you have a better 5 min comparo, please share.

How are you disparaging the strategy and outcome of early adoption, iterative improvement, and the final availability of a great used car that people can afford? Seems to offer more value long term than comparable ICE cars of the time, but my comparison is admittedly loose.

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[Celiboy]

The limited range of the vehicle isn't a significant concern for me, as it offers a slight improvement over a standard-range car. However, the issue arises with its large 123kWh battery, which is necessary to achieve what a regular Tesla can with a smaller 50-75kWh battery. This becomes a particular challenge for home charging, especially for those with multiple Teslas and only one charger. If the Cybertruck is used as frequently as our other Teslas, it's likely to take up most of the charging capacity overnight due to its larger battery needs.

I agree. It’ll be something we have to manage. We currently only need to charge our M3 and MY once per week under normal circumstances. I don’t see our driving habits changing much after I get the truck but it’s definitely something that’ll need to be addressed as I learn how often I’ll need to charge my truck.

 

[Celiboy]

I'm surprised so many people still recommend 50-amp outlets when hard wiring is easier to install and better. Less terminals to oxidize, higher power available, fewer copper conductors needed and for those who are limited on available circuits or power, they can powershare with multiple cars.

Can you explain that a little further by wiring directly? I know little about electrical power generally and even less about household electrical power. I work in medicine/mental health. It’s far from my wheelhouse. Thanks.

 

[Celiboy]

Agree. The CT is Tesla's Model X 2.0, and the rollout has not been great up to this point. Instead of making a practical truck with good range and sufficient performance, they made an overdone "technology bandwagon" that goes from pseudo truck to a bastardized sport utility vehicle once you put a "range extender" in it.

I believe they can fix this, at least to a sufficient degree. Get rid of the leaky rolling tonneau, add a fix/folding/removable tonneau, use the space under the rear seat and in the tonneau box to stuff more batteries, reach a minimum of 400 real-world/non-aspirational miles, ditch the RWS (if beneficial), and call the damn thing good. Don't sell something to truck buyers that they didn't ask for, and then tell them it is good enough. It wreaks of tone-def arrogance and pretentiousness. Then again, this probably all comes down to keeping this from being rated a Class 3 truck, and ultimately, giving people what they want would hurt their bottom line from the loss of carbon credits, so they won't f'n do it.

Just like many of you, I was dying to get this truck, but am not so sure at this point. We'll see how much better it gets. Sadly, I've had to think about getting a Tundra or waiting for Ford to develop their T3 project. It's back to wait and see lol

So in other words they needed to make the truck you wanted? Not everyone has the same use case as you and would maybe appreciate RWS, an ice chest where they put one and a motorized tonneau cover? If a Tundra fits your needs then why are you so butt hurt. Tesla doesn’t have to justify anything to us. Ford, GM, Dodge or any other automaker doesn’t have to justify anything to us. Either their products meet your needs or they don’t. Just buy the truck that fits your needs.

 

[ArizonaTea]

For those who wants Tundra, thinks Tesla will bankrupt very soon and keep posting “reviews”, could you guys cancel your order( if you have ordered) and try harder to convince more people to cancel it? Many of us still waiting for VIN to be assigned. Seriously, it is a Win-Win.

 

[plaidmodelx]

Seems like early on over a 200kwh battery pack was considered. Seems like weight and cost was the limiting factor.
I ordered my AWD Jan 9th. Was set on CB but range will likely be awful and not worth the wait.
Btw when does Tesla let you know trade in value. I feel like they are giving awful estimates for trade ins.

 

[rodx]

~160 miles for 80% charge (~200 @ 100%) is incredibly jarring to see. Correct me if I’m wrong, that has to be the worst range data we’ve ever seen for this truck? Out of Spec went 70mph on a highway from 100% and landed around 250 miles. Clearly this is a pretty large difference. My logic after seeing his video was that certainly mixing in some city driving would improve the range.

These people really had to be gunning the truck at every light, pedal to the metal. Right?

 

[mark555055c]

Agree. The CT is Tesla's Model X 2.0, and the rollout has not been great up to this point. Instead of making a practical truck with good range and sufficient performance, they made an overdone "technology bandwagon" that goes from pseudo truck to a bastardized sport utility vehicle once you put a "range extender" in it.

I believe they can fix this, at least to a sufficient degree. Get rid of the leaky rolling tonneau, add a fix/folding/removable tonneau, use the space under the rear seat and in the tonneau box to stuff more batteries, reach a minimum of 400 real-world/non-aspirational miles, ditch the RWS (if beneficial), and call the damn thing good. Don't sell something to truck buyers that they didn't ask for, and then tell them it is good enough. It wreaks of tone-def arrogance and pretentiousness. Then again, this probably all comes down to keeping this from being rated a Class 3 truck, and ultimately, giving people what they want would hurt their bottom line from the loss of carbon credits, so they won't f'n do it.

Just like many of you, I was dying to get this truck, but am not so sure at this point. We'll see how much better it gets. Sadly, I've had to think about getting a Tundra or waiting for Ford to develop their T3 project. It's back to wait and see lol

So... everything you want, i do not. CT is Model X 2.0? Uh, yes please.

I wanted a crazy blade runner truck, and they delivered.

You seem to want a 2015 Toyota tundra cab on an electric drivetrain with a giant battery and a cheap snap or zip up tonneau.

I'm glad they delivered the future and not the past. I'm glad they delivered a Tesla, and not a boring legacy automaker-esque truck.

 

[Bartman]

Tesla knows what they are doing. Release a MVP with high demand. People will buy every one they make now. The range and charge speed will be better in a later model year once demand slows. They can't make a forever truck. Take a look at the S,X,3, and Y. The platform got better as they age. No one wants a 2013 S, 2016 X or 2018 3. Just as in 2027, no one will want a 2023 Cybertruck, and in 2030, Tesla will sell that 500 mile range Cybertruck so owners of 2024 will upgrade. They need to keep the cycle going. Can't make a perfect product on purpose or you'll go out of business.

You are generally correct, however it deserves to be said that the first Model 3 Tesla ever sold, the M3 LR RWD, was likely the best single motor M3 they ever made. So not everything gets better with time.

 

[cvalue13]

we can conclude:
1) Range sucks
2) Team knew long before release that range sucks
3) It is a big deal for customers
4) They could have fixed it but didn't

Not sure what 4 could even mean

otherwise, not sure how anyone is so certain the CT is any different than any other Tesla

the above data is far better than any one, anecdotal, counter-point. It shows that on average, across driving styles:

• In 75°+ weather, Model Y/S drivers observed range is 65-70% of dashboard displayed range
• In ~50° weather, it’s 55%
  
  
  Based on this complies data about Tesla sedans, folks can arrive at their various respective conclusions

That Tesla you already drive, maybe isn’t much different range-wise from the Cybertruck?

The company that brought you the Cybertruck is the same company that brought you the other Teslas?

For better or for worse?

 

[Woodrick]

Did you order the Cyberbeast? If not, Tesla met the range and exceed some other things

 

[Woodrick]

For those who wants Tundra, thinks Tesla will bankrupt very soon and keep posting “reviews”, could you guys cancel your order( if you have ordered) and try harder to convince more people to cancel it? Many of us still waiting for VIN to be assigned. Seriously, it is a Win-Win.

I sincerely regret to tell you that 90% of these naysayers will end up getting a Cybertruck and once in their hands and enjoying every minute of it...

Will STILL bitch and complain.

 

[kbolt]

Well the one person gets 50 miles less of range than the other person. So they clearly have an ego problem when they are driving. Probably a lot of speeding tickets and/or accidents as well. One could assume they care very little about those on the road around them.

Plus the fact that they did 10k miles in under a month means they needed a policy with a ton of miles on it. The more miles you drive in a month I think it exponentially increases your risk of an accident.

Those two pieces combined would lead to that ridiculous policy that is almost as high as my six month premium lol.

 

[Woodrick]

Seems like early on over a 200kwh battery pack was considered. Seems like weight and cost was the limiting factor.
I ordered my AWD Jan 9th. Was set on CB but range will likely be awful and not worth the wait.
Btw when does Tesla let you know trade in value. I feel like they are giving awful estimates for trade ins.

Range for the Cyberbeast shouldn't be much different than that of any other of Tesla's performance trims.

In normal life, there is no difference between the performance of a standard and performance trim. You still beat everyone else off the line. You still freak your passengers out.

You just may make the flashing blue lights come on faster.

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