Is wrapping our only option? Patina

[Diveflyfish]

BARD, Can I get an executive summary of this article ^

Sure, here is an executive summary of the article:

• This article is a guide to specifying surface treatments for stainless steel.
• It covers various cleaning and passivation methods for different applications.
• Some methods, like grinding, can damage the surface, while others, like passivation in nitric acid baths, create a protective oxide layer.
• Pickling treatments remove surface defects.
• The article also details inspection methods and provides contact information for further help.

Scott, what is BARD? I did not summarize for a reason. Investigation of this would best be accomplished by reading the article for details would be missed with simple summary. I will provide a synopsis with any other links that may prove to be of application and interest. Respectfully, Diveflyfish

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[Codyco]

Absolutely what I was expecting to see. Not sure why people seem to be in denial about this. I'll take the stainless any day over carbon steel. It will definitely hold up better. But there is no way it would be as easy to keep clean as any painted car on the market.

 

[scottf200]

Scott, what is BARD? I did not summarize for a reason. Investigation of this would best be accomplished by reading the article for details would be missed with simple summary. I will provide a synopsis with any other links that may prove to be of application and interest. Respectfully, Diveflyfish

Yes, I looked over the articles as well but even a high-level summary helps people what they can expect as, in general, just providing a linked somewhere that can be masked is not a good "method" or technique. HTH

link text ... https://valleyofbutterflies.com/2022/05/24/how-do-butterflies-mate-and-reproduce/ ... which could be any phishing text

BARD LLM = bard. google. com

 

[Diveflyfish]

This article speaks to a pico second laser treatment to Martensitic stainless steel that could render surfaces even antimicrobial and superhydrophobic…….. perhaps this laser micro surface alteration is worth investigating? https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acs.langmuir.9b01333

 

[Diveflyfish]

This article speaks to the use of hydrofluoric acid to produce superhydrophobic coatings that provide the benefits of corrosion resistance, drag reduction and self cleansing.
https://www.researchgate.net/profil...reatments-and-Hydrophobic-Film-Deposition.pdf

 

[Diveflyfish]

This article speaks to a novel detonation plasma spray to create erosion resistant coating on Martensitic Stainless Steel.
https://www.ijert.org/research/eros...ensitic-stainless-steels-IJERTV10IS050475.pdf

 

[BannedByTMC]

This article speaks to a novel detonation plasma spray to create erosion resistant coating on Martensitic Stainless Steel.
https://www.ijert.org/research/eros...ensitic-stainless-steels-IJERTV10IS050475.pdf

Isn't all the marensitic stainless 400 series while the CT is 300 series?

 

[Bkb13]

You’re completely full of it! The alloy is not even remotely the same.

where are these guys coming from?

 

[DMC-81]

Any corrosion on DeLoreans is a function of whether they were subjected to a corrosive environment and how they were stored, rather than age. This shop is in New York where they have daily driver DeLoreans subjected to the winter salt for many years.

Here is my 1981 DeLorean, which was cared for properly:

I’ve only seen one DeLorean with corrosion, and that car was a victim of saltwater flooding during a hurricane in the South Florida area.

 

[XCeilidhX]

This week, I had the opportunity to closely examine a Cybertruck.
Noticed some patina already starting

I am exploring protective measures

Is vehicle wrapping the sole option to prevent such damage or discoloration?

dec 8 beast order!

Cheers!

I was on the road a week or two ago and an old school unpainted DMC was next to me at a stoplight. Since those were last made in 1983 that car was at least 41 years old. The stainless steel looked great.

So my first thought is that perhaps you are worrying a bit much.

My second thought is that you should find a DMC owner’s group and ask how they keep them looking nice after over 40 years. My guess is that it doesn’t take that much… with a caveat.

I saw this DeLorean in California. They don’t salt roads in CA. I grew up in Pennsylvania with some of the worst potholes in the nation and heavily salted roads all winter long. I have no idea how much worse (if at all) a DMC or CT would fare if constantly exposed to salt instead of never. People always sprayed the steel underbodies of cars to prevent rusting in PA. But that’s not a process that would be acceptable on the exterior for most.

Would be interesting to see how DMC owners in PA and the Northeast in general fared in terms of their exteriors vs the salt in winters. If anyone knows somebody that would be great info to share. Especially if there are photos or videos involved.

Cheers

 

[XCeilidhX]

Any corrosion on DeLoreans is a function of whether they were subjected to a corrosive environment and how they were stored, rather than age. This shop is in New York where they have daily driver DeLoreans subjected to the winter salt for many years.

Here is my 1981 DeLorean, which was cared for properly:

I’ve only seen one DeLorean with corrosion, and that car was a victim of saltwater flooding during a hurricane in the South Florida area.

Looks like you beat me to it!!

 

[Cybertruck2024]

It's official, I have to Line-X the whole truck.

 

[Diveflyfish]

Isn't all the marensitic stainless 400 series while the CT is 300 series?

I am not sure what the “series” is status post cold rolling. Starting material may be 300 series, yet after the treatment and transform, how they designate the series is ? It may depend upon what depth the Martensitic layer extends in proportion to the entire thickness of the material. Perhaps Sandy Munro would know if it was full thickness or partial. It is possible the orange color elicited with silane application was from interaction with superficial microscopic magnetite particles and removal of the passivation layer. The self protective passivation layer is patina, but not impervious to the acids from finger prints. How to make it superhydrophobic after patina may help.

 

[Diveflyfish]

It may be of interest to see if Tesla could speak to the use of this type of electrochemical passivation device to create a homogenous uniform passivation layer : https://www.fronius.com/en-us/usa/w...ual-welding/tig/magiccleaner/magiccleaner-150

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