Towing 5700 lbs medium sized camper results w/ Cyberbeast Cybertruck

[Gigahorse]

Pulling the medium size travel trailer, was getting around 1,185 wh/mile netting about 80-90 miles of range if using 80-100% of the battery pack.
5,800lb trailer
Max speed of 65 mph Average speed of about 55MPH as a mix of city/town/country driving
Almost whole battery was used for first 92 mile test
Air temp was between 48-58F
Tire pressure on A/T at 65PSI wheels had no aero caps "they are ugly as...."
Minimal HVAC Used
Similar result as other towing tests
When pulling a medium size trailer load you get about 90 miles of range if you use the whole pack.
Using a normal 80% your looking at around 80 miles of range.

The rear and side cameras used for monitoring the trailer load looked really nice, which is great with the lack of a rear view mirror with vault closed.

In general it looks like when not towing CT is getting 165-215 range across about 20different vehicles with a total of over 15,000 miles assuming 80% of pack is used. So the rough rule of of EVs getting about a 50% range cut when towing is holding up for the most part.
Cyberbeast got a little less than 1/3 of the EPA range when towing.

Big props to [name removed until vid is made public] for doing these tests, video will be public semi soon and will post the links to it.

At this point no one has towed an extremely light sub 1,000lb and highly aerodynamic trailer which should give much higher range numbers, but we are also waiting for a large box trailer that is close to 10,000lbs to give us the full story on the bad towing news.

After we have seen 5 different towing tests across multiple Cybertrucks and very different trailer loads it looks like when using most of the battery capacity and hauling medium loads; while towing the Cybertruck is getting to get about 70-100 miles of range across a variety of loads, models, and temperature conditions.


Pulling the medium size travel trailer, was getting around 1,185 wh/mile netting about 80-90 miles of range if using 80-100% of the battery pack.

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[Texarado]

Not challenging the results because I haven’t seen the video and there’s just an overall lack of significant information so far. But…. Based on this, is towing 11k highly non-aerodynamic setup in freezing temps basically no different than towing a 6k pound more aerodynamic trailer in 60 degree weather? Trying to piece All of this together.

 

[Gigahorse]

Not challenging the results because I haven’t seen the video and there’s just an overall lack of significant information so far. But…. Based on this, is towing 11k highly non-aerodynamic setup in freezing temps basically no different than towing a 6k pound more aerodynamic trailer in 60 degree weather? Trying to piece All of this together.

Yea, this vid has a lot of details people asked for, weather conditions, TIRE PRESSURE, etc.
Right now it looks like roughly 70-100 miles of towing range for the CT across a variety of towing loads.
Still need to see a test with a really small and super aero skateboard trailer load

 

[ideaXfactory]

I was wondering, what is the source of the camera view from the trailer looking towards the back of the Cybertruck?

 

[Texarado]

Agree with @Gigahorse that the side cameras really do a good job From what it appears. Potentially obviates the need for tow mirrors.

 

[Baldyloxx]

There are lighter and more aero-friendly travel trailors which exist… so I’m keeping my fingers crossed for when I get my CT..

But these results are yet more promising for my particular needs and plans..

 

[Baldyloxx]

+1 on the side cameras for trailor mirrors.. I had my hunches, but this is good validation.

 

[Texarado]

Yea, this vid has a lot of details people asked for, weather conditions, TIRE PRESSURE, etc.
Right now it looks like roughly 70-100 miles of towing range for the CT across a variety of towing loads.
Still need to see a test with a really small and super aero skateboard trailer load

Still baffling to believe that temp and load had negligible impact between your test and the JerryRig test.

 

[cvalue13]

Still baffling to believe that temp and load had negligible impact between your test and the JerryRig test.

you describing the Hummer vs this travel trailer?

the relative aerodynamics of the load are going to have an overwhelming effect on range outcomes

In contrast, weight differences are negligible as relates to range

Now, I won’t venture to guess whether the Hummer of travel trailer is larger in terms of frontal plain, or what their relative Cds are, etc.

But generally, unless you have that info, it means the predominant range effect is an open variable

 

[Gigahorse]

Still baffling to believe that temp and load had negligible impact between your test and the JerryRig test.

Yea I was a little surprised, not smart enough to know if a small box shape hummer vs a big rounded camper trailer has better aero, but the hummer test was WAY colder and WAY heavier.
I would have expected the camper to get a lot better range but it seems like if anything, hummer, model Y, model 3, trailer gets hauled the range gets cut 1/2 or by 1/3 of EPA estimate.

 

[Gigahorse]

Towing vid that was summarized above is now public on X

 

[ÆCIII]

My takeaway is that weight is a drag or decrease on range of any vehicle whether it's in the vehicle or being pulled. I think recent towing tests are reminding us that weight (and aerodynamic drag) isn't pulled without energy cost, as expected.



What we're also seeing, is that the power and braking performance of the Cybertruck is very good even when towing heavier loads. I do agree that the Range Extender is likely a must-have when towing heavy loads frequently outside of ones local area.

I would note when towing even very heavy loads just around town (trailers with building materials to construction sites, etc.) the Cybertruck will be an awesome vehicle for that use case. Cybertruck pulling a large trailer would be also suitable for delivering heavy rental equipment to sites in one's local area. Landscapers would also find the Cybertruck would pull their loaded trailers quite well too.

Just for kicks I did a calculation comparison for 1205 wh/mi (at 12¢ per kWH which is close to Florida rates charging at home) with gas prices at $3.00 per gallon, which revealed a 21 MPG equivalent based on cost. I don't think any other truck could pull a trailer like that so inexpensively, so there's that.

That's based on cheap electricity rates at home however, but supercharger rates are usually higher. If estimating an electricity rate of 20¢ per kWH at the supercharger (if not free), then the result is 12 MPG equivalent, which is still not bad. Of course for free supercharging one is really saving some money when towing.

If gas prices are more than $3.00 per gallon, towing with a Cybertruck has even more cost benefits, if the electricity cost remains the same. If the electricity costs go up of then of course the cost benefits are less. I also think they need more pull-thru stalls at superchargers from what I'm seeing so far.

- ÆCIII

 

[cvalue13]

I don’t think the video had been posted yet, no, but this is the same test/stats that have been posted in text form in a few *other* threads

 

[Gigahorse]

Yea video link and breakdown in the thread linked below.
In the towing section of the forum

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...medium-size-camper-trailer.11639/#post-233223

 

[SagePaul]

Not much worse than my X with camper at highway speeds... that being said, when I can manage to keep it under 60 on the highway, mileage improves significantly. I've pulled my camper from SW FL up to NC & back - so no idea why anyone would say long distance electric towing isn't an option. With kids in the back seat you need to stop often for breaks anyway.

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