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This has got to be one of the more ridiculous threads I’ve read on this MB…
What makes that more amazing is there is no shortage of competition when it comes to ridiculous threads full of fake posts worrying about fake things. Anything to cast a negative pall over Tesla's latest product.
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Unbelievable how gullible people can be. My stainless steel BBQ sat outside in the yard for the past 15 years and not a single spot of rust on it. Simply wow….
It's truly unbelievable how gullible some of these people are. It was mentioned early on in this thread that it's rail dust. Some Cybertrucks are being transported out of the Taylor rail-yard.

People stop panicking the stainless steel is not rusting it's the rail dust. Just go on youtube and search how to remove raildust, tons of videos posted long before the Cybertruck even existed. this problem has been around forever. It seems to some like it's a Cybertruck problem when it has nothing to do with the truck.
 

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It's truly unbelievable how gullible some of these people are. It was mentioned early on in this thread that it's rail dust. Some Cybertrucks are being transported out of the Taylor rail-yard.

People stop panicking the stainless steel is not rusting it's the rail dust. Just go on youtube and search how to remove raildust, tons of videos posted long before the Cybertruck even existed. this problem has been around forever. It seems to some like it's a Cybertruck problem when it has nothing to do with the truck.
Are you replying to me in particular or to the group in general for the original post? ?
 

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tiny little flaw in your mike drop: there are many of types of SS, each with different behaviors and strengths/weaknesses in terms of performance in different use cases, which result from compromises made in one metric to achieve results in other metrics.

and in this specific case, the people building your grill likely had a primary and easy to achieve performance metric.

meanwhile, historically, there is a reason this family of materials was named stainless, not stainfree.

in short, for these reasons, what seems “gullible” if anything is thinking that your experience with your BBQ grill in your back yard forecloses all reasonable inquiry into how a Cybertruck will behave in all use cases across the country.

I wonder: did your BBQ grill manufacturer offer you an additional product to use to “seal” your grill to prevent staining and corrosion?

because that’s what Tesla will be offering for the CT ?
Mike drop ? cute. Until Tesla releases the exact composition of the HFS, no one can determine the longevity or corrosion resistance. One would think however, both factors would be taken into account by the literal rocket scientists for automotive application. My theory, Elon specifically formulated the percentage of chromium, nickel, carbon and iron in this alloy so it lasts forever without any treatment. (Or evil Elon formulation so it can not be treated effectively by any chemical or wrap so the “patina” look of apocalyptic vehicles will be signature CT for in the decades ahead). Mic drop. ???
 

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Are you replying to me in particular or to the group in general for the original post? ?
I agree with you 100% on the gull ability of some of the responses on here. It’s insane they think the trucks are rusting just days after taking ownership. Cracks me up. These trolls don’t know what to think of next.
 


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lol no

Does your kitchen sink get wet? Or your pots and pans? Flatware?

If it "rusts", it's not stainless steel.
Not true, stainless steel absolutely rusts and this is due to its carbon content, the higher the grade, the more carbon it has, the more expensive it is, the more magnetic it is, and the more it rusts. Most surgical tools are made of 400 series stainless, and it absolutely rusts if you let it
 

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Not true, stainless steel absolutely rusts and this is due to its carbon content, the higher the grade, the more carbon it has, the more expensive it is, the more magnetic it is, and the more it rusts. Most surgical tools are made of 400 series stainless, and it absolutely rusts if you let it
You and I have different definitions of the word “rust”
 

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You and I have different definitions of the word “rust”
Hey, I love stainless, but I got to raise the "BS Flag" for those of you that want to believe that Stainless Steel is immune from rust. It contains Iron. I own a business that does industrial cleaning and we passivate, or sometimes pickle (with Nitric/Hydrofluoric acid), stainless steel piping/parts all the time, which makes it more corrosion resistant than it would be otherwise. If stainless steel was corrosion proof, there would be no need to ever passivate it.... does that make sense? When you passivate stainless steel with a nitric acid or citric acid solution, you remove the free iron from the surface and, at the same time, put a very thin concentrated chromium layer on the surface, that's more resistant to corrosion. If the Cybertruck was made of 316 SS, it would be a lot more resistant to corrosion, but it's made of a cheaper, less corrosion resistant, stainless steel....and I'm sure that's for lots of good reasons, including workability, and It's likely price was also factor in the decision of which grade of stainless to use. It is what it is. I would imagine that cars that are driven up north on salty roads may have more issues....
 

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Hey, I love stainless, but I got to raise the "BS Flag" for those of you that want to believe that Stainless Steel is immune from rust. It contains Iron. I own a business that does industrial cleaning and we passivate, or sometimes pickle (with Nitric/Hydrofluoric acid), stainless steel piping/parts all the time, which makes it more corrosion resistant than it would be otherwise. If stainless steel was corrosion proof, there would be no need to ever passivate it.... does that make sense? When you passivate stainless steel with a nitric acid or citric acid solution, you remove the free iron from the surface and, at the same time, put a very thin concentrated chromium layer on the surface, that's more resistant to corrosion. If the Cybertruck was made of 316 SS, it would be a lot more resistant to corrosion, but it's made of a cheaper, less corrosion resistant, stainless steel....and I'm sure that's for lots of good reasons, including workability, and It's likely price was also factor in the decision of which grade of stainless to use. It is what it is. I would imagine that cars that are driven up north on salty roads may have more issues....
...and I must call "BS" for those that believe the CT will be ruined if left out in the rain :rolleyes:
 

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...and I must call "BS" for those that believe the CT will be ruined if left out in the rain :rolleyes:
Agree. It will be completely fine in the rain. That being said, people also need to realize it's probably not going to look like it does, if you went to go see at a Tesla showroom, when on display with ropes all around it. It's going to show all kinds of fingerprints, probably mostly on the doors, just like in the real life pictures and videos we all see.... unless you are completely obsessed and arguably spending way too much of your time wiping and rubbing to obsessively keep it looking like "showroom condition" I don't have time for all that and I'll gladly accept how it looks, living in the real world, and embrace the stainless for what it is.
 


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...it's made of a cheaper, less corrosion resistant....
Some of what you said might be true, and some SS does rust more than others, but the Tesla HFS is custom made and certainly costs more than 316 you can buy on the global market. Also, they didn't make sacrifices for tooling, but invented tooling that didn't exist in order to handle the material. It is still a 300 series SS and you have no idea if corrosion resistance is less than 316, unless you have some proof I'm unaware...?
 

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Agree. It will be completely fine in the rain. That being said, people also need to realize it's probably not going to look like it does, if you went to go see at a Tesla showroom, when on display with ropes all around it. It's going to show all kinds of fingerprints, probably mostly on the doors, just like in the real life pictures and videos we all see.... unless you are completely obsessed and arguably spending way too much of your time wiping and rubbing to obsessively keep it looking like "showroom condition" I don't have time for all that and I'll gladly accept how it looks, living in the real world, and embrace the stainless for what it is.
Who keeps cars showroom condition? Once in a while I clean that way, then let it go to hell for a while, then feel bad and make it shiny again. That's when I'll use BKF to get CT HFS looking like my M3P with a polish/wax. People exaggerate the fingerprint issue, lots ways to keep that under control, but still need to keep a certain amount of "who cares until it gets really bad" because like you said, ain't nobody got time for that!
 

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I definitely will. While I do like how the patina and softness is already starting to show, I really want shiny and bold.
Just a point to make here, if you get the patina to a level where you love it and want to preserve it, you can seal it in with ProtectaClear as well and it will keep that specific level of patina. You just skip the cleaning steps and go straight to solvent wipe and coat. Many jewelry designers and metal artists use it in this way with artificial patinas, flame painting, etc.
 

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Hey, I love stainless, but I got to raise the "BS Flag" for those of you that want to believe that Stainless Steel is immune from rust. It contains Iron. I own a business that does industrial cleaning and we passivate, or sometimes pickle (with Nitric/Hydrofluoric acid), stainless steel piping/parts all the time, which makes it more corrosion resistant than it would be otherwise. If stainless steel was corrosion proof, there would be no need to ever passivate it.... does that make sense? When you passivate stainless steel with a nitric acid or citric acid solution, you remove the free iron from the surface and, at the same time, put a very thin concentrated chromium layer on the surface, that's more resistant to corrosion. If the Cybertruck was made of 316 SS, it would be a lot more resistant to corrosion, but it's made of a cheaper, less corrosion resistant, stainless steel....and I'm sure that's for lots of good reasons, including workability, and It's likely price was also factor in the decision of which grade of stainless to use. It is what it is. I would imagine that cars that are driven up north on salty roads may have more issues....
PREACH!! We have to combat this lack of understanding all the time. Stainless will rust eventually depending on the grade and environmental conditions.
 

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When archaeologists a million years from now are excavating what is left of our civilization, all they will find is stainless-steel sinks and Cybertruck bodies.
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