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Combine them as they guided on self submitted manual proof. I forget what the full wording was but you can do the Say option with your investment companies. My was Robinhood and Fidelity but Fidelity not longer supported for Say. So I did the manual route. The option was to redact out the account number, address, and other stocks. Just show the TSLA Hold in pdf 1 file. I use my old Adobe Acrobat Pro to do it but I am sure there is free pdf app that does it too. That is why I have to join them into 1. So it was Name, total TSLA holding and proof statements. Good luck.

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Well, at least I know, by seeing 12 pages of comments in such a short period of time, that my feelings of not loving this new “jump in front of the line” option aren’t shared by me alone. ?

In general, I don’t have an issue with rewarding a specific subset of shareholders. However, Tesla decided to take $1,000 nonrefundable deposits from thousands of people based on clearly announced delivery timeframes (most of us January through March). So, if they had the ability to honor those timeframes and still let this subset of shareholders ahead of us, I have absolutely no issue with that. However, it is very clear at this point that a high number of us that were told we’d receive the vehicle by the end of March will not be getting it (and Tesla, more than anyone else, knows this). This is where I take issue - Tesla has already “sold” dates for delivery and instead of doing their best to honor those dates they are changing the rules and allowing a different group to further push back those that paid for a promised delivery timeframe. I have no issues with Tesla missing timeframes because of production delays, which can happen when creating such a unique vehicle. However, changing the rules of the game after taking customers nonrefundable money - not so cool.

Let’s be honest, the only reason any of us were willing to pay the extra $20K+ was to get early access to the vehicle. At what point are those at the back-end of the FS orders going to be bumping right into the regular orders at $20K less. Then, we’re going to see some really angry people! ?

Final thoughts in my “ode to Tesla”… like others have mentioned, first it was celebrities and influencers, then those with tons of referral points, and now a specific subset of Tesla shareholders. Can we offer votes for the next groups to jump the line? How about a couple of categories that work for me ?. University alumni of Elon! How about Spacex investors (I chose Spacex over Tesla)! How about just being old and ugly (I’m willing to submit photos!)?.

I’m hoping that I’ll find some therapeutic benefits from wasting my time writing crap like this… knowing that it will change absolutely nothing and I’ll still wait in my beleaguered (skipped over) spot in the queue checking the app every thirty minutes to see if I am a chosen one…
We really don’t know for sure if anything you said here is true. Shareholders requesting early delivery may very well be placed in line after people who have already paid. No timeline was given.
 

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This offer is definitely slower than the referral points offer they had before. People that jumped into the points offer had emails in less than 24 hours, so far it's been days with seemingly no email/outreach at all.

Wonder what's going on behind the scenes w/this one. Maybe they're trying to make sure everyone is up to speed on how to properly interpret shares from 2021 given the splits that were happening around then?

I could see that being a problem if the employees processing the validation submissions don't understand that if you bought in 2019, held and never bought again, that despite having "less than 50%"of your 500 shares back then but have 500 today that your shares back then ARE the 500 shares today, and thus were over 50%.

Not really sure why they didn't just say 500 shares prior to Feb 2024, and proof you had some shares (vs "50%") in 2021.
 

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They haven’t asked anyone for verification (statements) yet, so I’m assuming they are waiting for the deadline to pass and then will somehow prioritize the list (hard to do without the verification documents, unless they use data that some provided earlier to verify shareholder status for say.com, invites, etc.)
 

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This offer is definitely slower than the referral points offer they had before. People that jumped into the points offer had emails in less than 24 hours, so far it's been days with seemingly no email/outreach at all.

Wonder what's going on behind the scenes w/this one. Maybe they're trying to make sure everyone is up to speed on how to properly interpret shares from 2021 given the splits that were happening around then?

I could see that being a problem if the employees processing the validation submissions don't understand that if you bought in 2019, held and never bought again, that despite having "less than 50%"of your 500 shares back then but have 500 today that your shares back then ARE the 500 shares today, and thus were over 50%.

Not really sure why they didn't just say 500 shares prior to Feb 2024, and proof you had some shares (vs "50%") in 2021.

I read line 2 below as you need to have on Feb. 29, 2024 at least half the shares you owned on Feb. 28, 2021. Not that you needed to have half the shares you own now in 2021. As in, you didn't sell most of your shares, but still have 500 now.

  1. Each participant must provide brokerage statements showing that you owned TSLA shares on Feb. 28, 2021 and owned at least 500 TSLA shares on Feb. 29, 2024;
  2. The brokerage statements for Feb. 29, 2024 must show that you owned at least 50% of the TSLA shares that you owned on Feb. 28, 2021; and
 


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I assume they are waiting until the 3/22 deadline ... but this really is a cluster from Investor relations... I paid my $1000 on 2/15/24 ... will i get delivery sooner if i validate my shares ?
 

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I think there are many (all?) of us in this Waiting for Godot boat.

Godot in this case is Martin Viecha who originally announced this on Twitter/X.

So now we have one more thing to wait on and wonder about beyond:
- When will my reservation number come up for ordering
- Will I be able to order a non-Foundation Series when my reservation number comes up
- If I do order the Foundation Series, how long does it take to get a VIN
- If I do receive a VIN, how long does it take to schedule delivery
- If I do schedule delivery, will the vehicle actually be there and ready for delivery
- How does this 'Early Delivery' for shareholders work? Which of the above steps, if any, does it impact? And what is considered 'early'? Is there some prioritization in the shareholders list? What is it based on? # shares?

What else? This is a mystifying process.
Most of these questions vary upon:
  • Where you are
  • When in the queue is your service center for getting upgraded
  • What is the production rate at GigaTexas
  • And how these numbers change over time between one step or another.
And honestly, not even Tesla knows the answers to these questions.

No one is being allowed to order non-Foundation Series at this point. So no, you won't be able to configure that. I would assume that they're just adding shareholders to the able-to-configure group, like I'm in. But it used similar language to the jump-ahead referral credits, so... Who knows? They didn't say. Being vague means they have less liability.

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This would be fine if Tesla hadn't already strung out many for a $1000 with delivery dates they could never achieve. By the way the arbitration agreement with Tesla only applies after purchase and if you're foolish enough to not opt out in writing within 30 days of purchase.
This is why Tesla needs a competent CEO at the helm. It's no longer a start up where a manic CEO can have tremendous benefits. I'll take Elon's own word that he has Bipolar disorder.
People underestimate the value of Elon to any company he runs while simultaneously overestimating that he is somehow "manic" or "bad" or "unhinged". While it's true that he doesn't worry about what people think of him, I think that's actually a good thing. It makes him more open, more honest, and more accessible. I mean, tell me what Mary Barra or Oliver Blume thinks. Are they good or bad people? Have they accelerated or slowed the transition to cleaner, healthier technologies? What? You don't even know who Oliver Blume is? And nobody has told you that he's a bad person?

OK, whatever.

Tesla is still run as if it's 12 startups and that's a good thing as will be evidenced by the value of the company within 5 years. Elon doesn't give lip service, he focuses on things that actually matter. And I love that he calls out people that are behaving badly, even if they are rich and famous. I've long been of the belief that people need to be free to say the things that need to be said.

Every company could benefit from having someone more visionary at the helm. I loved that Elon called out Alameda County (where Freemont is) for unnecessarily shutting them down for an extended period during COVID (even though the Feds had declared automakers as an essential activity). The reaction to COVID was not evidence based, it was an over-reaction that did more harm than good. A little public education and shutting down activities with the highest risk of transmission would have been better. Shutting down a huge factory with very low density of employees was not helpful.

Elon gets a lot of mud thrown his way, most of it is to try to slow down the very good changes he is bringing to civilization. I mean, electric cars are not good if a basic one costs $60K and the maker loses money on everyone they sell. Elon is changing manufacturing for the better and that's more important to the strength of the economy and our collective standard of living than most people understand. People are struggling right now, just to make ends meet, and it's because things cost too much and people are paid too little. Elon understands this can be fixed by doing things in a simpler, smarter, more efficient manner. He works super hard on this and deserves cheers, not jeers. If everyone worked as hard and as effectively as Elon, there would be such an abundance of goods and services at low prices that we would want for nothing.
 

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Looks like your right. I usually pay more attention to detail. Just one more reason I'll probable not go through with my FS purchase.
Opting out of Foundation Series would put me one Cybertruck closer to getting mine. Please do opt out! It sounds like you need a gas or diesel truck anyway. :)
 

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As we haven't seen any additional information (or the alleged emails with details) in two days I'm guessing we're stuck here until at least 3/22 - and probably much later since it's going to take some time to review a crap-ton of PDF's to validate shareholdings and figure out how many people are on this latest list.

Should we take guesses? I'll set the over/under at 10,000.

Hopefully employees (current and former) are excluded otherwise just about every Tesla employee who has been at the company for 3+ years, or less and left years ago but held the stock through a split or two, probably has more than enough shares/options to jump even farther up the queue.
 


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I decided to try to put together the proof for this event for when Tesla does ask for it. I found that I could get Schwab brokerage statements for any month so I got the one for the end of February, 2021 and for the end of February, 2024. All the information except the number of TSLA shares I redacted in a Word document. I had to go to the account settings to prove ownership of the account and that, as a result, I own at least half of the shares. For the reservation side, I took a screen grab of my reservation, and another of the account information showing my name, etc. To show that I have taken no Cybertruck deliveries I took a screen grab of my account dashboard, and none of my CT reservations has a VIN. I converted this document to a PDF so I am ready...I hope.
 

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I decided to try to put together the proof for this event for when Tesla does ask for it. I found that I could get Schwab brokerage statements for any month so I got the one for the end of February, 2021 and for the end of February, 2024. All the information except the number of TSLA shares I redacted in a Word document. I had to go to the account settings to prove ownership of the account and that, as a result, I own at least half of the shares. For the reservation side, I took a screen grab of my reservation, and another of the account information showing my name, etc. To show that I have taken no Cybertruck deliveries I took a screen grab of my account dashboard, and none of my CT reservations has a VIN. I converted this document to a PDF so I am ready...I hope.
You're 37 steps ahead of me. I just sent in a redacted PDF with evidence of current shareholdings figuring I'd then be able to upload the 2021 file - which I can't. *sigh*

At least I've been offered a loaner by Tesla service tomorrow when I take my Model S Plaid in for seasonal wheel/tire swap and front half-shaft replacement. Maybe I'll get a Cybertruck loaner? LOL
 

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You're 37 steps ahead of me. I just sent in a redacted PDF with evidence of current shareholdings figuring I'd then be able to upload the 2021 file - which I can't. *sigh*

At least I've been offered a loaner by Tesla service tomorrow when I take my Model S Plaid in for seasonal wheel/tire swap and front half-shaft replacement. Maybe I'll get a Cybertruck loaner? LOL
My local showroom lets visitors get into the Cybertruck and play with the controls, etc, but still isn't giving test drives, so I doubt they have any loaners. Maybe next year?
 

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If the order page said Dec-March delivery and April rolls around could we get our 1k+250 back??? coming up on 90 days since I ordered. And it looks like they'll be selling non FS soon if they are pulling this crap
I called and asked and the answer was no the delivery window is an estimate.
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