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If the top of those 4680 batteries are 46, then it looks a little more than 35. In either case it is certaily less than 80! (eg double stack)
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KOOL....Time will tell if doubly stack is DO_ABLE
I will prefer the 123 kWh pack to come to Australia. The Greenie in me wants it to happen. Bring it Elon ....

In the words of Jean Luc Picard, who l met in 1997 in Australia at the Domain Chandon Car Show,

'Make it So'
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Will be interesting to see what happens here, a LOT of CT owners bought the truck with the ability to tow in mind, took it in the teeth and thought the battery pack would be a solution. Now we have a 110k truck that can't tow, and no tow solution is coming.
Huh? The Cybertruck tows great!

Just don't expect it to do it's EPA range with a big trailer. Only an EV towing neophyte doesn't know even a modest trailer will cut your max. towing time down to two or three hours (depending upon your speed and the size of the trailer).
 

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Huh? The Cybertruck tows great!

Just don't expect it to do it's EPA range with a big trailer. Only an EV towing neophyte doesn't know even a modest trailer will cut your max. towing time down to two or three hours (depending upon your speed and the size of the trailer).
Hauling more weight brings down your Wh/mi????
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Trailer with batteries in it seems like a good solution? Then you only need to carry that extra battery weight when you need it.
 

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Hauling more weight brings down your Wh/mi????
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Not as much as frontal area and drag coefficient do.
Every 100 pounds extra adds ~2 Wh/mile.

I think everyone can agree starting with 300 miles of range instead of 500 cuts towing range by ~40%. Possibly more since the lighter (more efficient) the tow vehicle is, the higher the percentage range impact of adding additional load.
 


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False. No one purchases a CT as a work truck. Literally no one - even the few guys with company name wraps do it for tax purposes. The people who have been able to afford this truck so far are exactly the people you implicitly deride as casual weekend warriors. I have homes in Maryland, upstate NY and Florida, all on the water, and set up with boat lifts and jet ski docks. That's the profile of the typical $100k truck buyer. My Maryland farm has diesel superduties but my problem is that the gated HOA communities in Florida have not allowed trucks over 1/2 ton until a law changed last July - so I could bring a superduty to my home there - so I decided to try towing the heavy boat with a CT, relying on the range extender commitment. This is no small thing or weekend warrior stuff - it's towing 1,050 miles north in May, with the 9,300-lb boat rig behind one truck, and the 3,100 32-ft 4-place jet ski/kayak rig behind the MY. The in July, we tow it all with the same two vehicles north to Lake George, for six weeks there with family, reverse to Maryland in late August, then back to Florida around November 1. That's 3,600 miles of serious at-the-limit towing every year, I expect for the next 10-15 years, same cycle every year.

You can minimize this requirement all you want with incorrect (work truck) misdirection but the fact is that plumbers, carpenters and electricians are not driving Cybertrucks. The flying buttress sides alone preclude that - a working person will not own a truck where they can't even reach over the side for stuff. The CT owner base is relatively wealthy people with toys to move. Yes, it might have been more widely accepted as a conventional pickup for real truck uses, but its final design led to a consumer conclusion that this hope simply isn't the case, hence its limited acceptance broadly, and zero application for actual working people. They are sticking with "real" pickup trucks with body-on-frame, utility bodies, steps, ability to add generic ladder racks, work boxes. Meanwhile, another promise made, another promise broken.
I agree Dave, I am one of those weekend warriors!...

As I seriously consider what you wrote. Should I need a real 'work truck' I would NOT even consider to buy the first model from a company with little or no 'work truck' pedigree. So no I would dismiss a CT as a daily work-truck, hauling loads daily with real world required up-time a work truck needs.

The CT is quirky in a fun way it's one step up over an SUV with it's load capacity. It 'can' tow. I've own 2 G-wagons, never towed a thing...only real off roading I did with the G-wagon was drive across an abandoned golf course with some potential land buyers.

Thanks for 'anchoring' the conversation.

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I'm on the side of they nixed the pack cuz too few orders, no economies of scale. I didn't consider one as the few times I tow a year vs lost bed space and weight.
 

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I wish Tesla would do more for the faithful early adopters. We are a special breed. We put deposits down immediately (Model 3, Cyerbtruck, Battery Extender) and we pay full retail for the most expensive versions without complaint. We become the Tesla experts in our families and circles of friends. We influence far more purchases than would be seen in the referral program. We post great pictures on social media and remain optimistic about the company. We quietly complain here, semi-privately, aboud FSD issues and service center struggles but to the rest of the world we are sold on the Tesla brand because we are overall extremely pleased with the product and the company. They should take better care of us! Send quarterly updates about what to expect with the range extender. Send a supercharger credit to Foundation owners "just because". It would be a relatively inexpensive gesture compared to the additional goodwill it would generate.
 

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I did reserve one but I agree that there were no details at the time and it felt risky. I wasn’t worried about my $500 but about the final price, specs, etc.
I put down the required deposit(or deposits?)…wasn’t it like $1000 or $2000?

I hope they make them. If not, I sure expect my non-refundable deposit back.
 


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The problem is the battery pack was never a good solution. Loose 1/2 of your bed space to get the original spec range. I think they realized at some point.
 

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I put down the required deposit(or deposits?)…wasn’t it like $1000 or $2000?

I hope they make them. If not, I sure expect my non-refundable deposit back.
You will be surprised....that my experience. In 2019, the day of CYBERTRUCK, l cancelled my Model 3 order ($3000) to put down $150 Aussie money. The $3K was back in my account within 3 days! Still keen on delivery by Christmas Day 2026. TOCA members pretty much agree it's most likely Christmas Day 2027
 

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We all have our use cases for 500 range and was a key buying spec to ensure our CTs execute intended tasks. As mentioned in other RE threads...I'm keeping the faith and confidence that Tesla engineers pull this off. Out of all the interesting solution ideas on this forum, a battery swap seems most practical & elegant so I'd rather wait even longer if this option is possible (y)
 

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We all have our use cases for 500 range and was a key buying spec to ensure our CTs execute intended tasks. As mentioned in other RE threads...I'm keeping the faith and confidence that Tesla engineers pull this off. Out of all the interesting solution ideas on this forum, a battery swap seems most practical & elegant so I'd rather wait even longer if this option is possible (y)
About a decade ago, Tesla explored the 'battery swap' idea and got it down to about 5 minutes execution time....a drive through from memory, however decided against that thought process....one or two Chinese Car makers have stuck with that for now. I believe the pack in the CT adds to its overall structural and dynamic performance, so for me, bring the 123 kWh version to Australia and l will be more than happy to charge it under the Great Aussie Sun while sitting under an old Gum Tree!
 

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We all have our use cases for 500 range and was a key buying spec to ensure our CTs execute intended tasks. As mentioned in other RE threads...I'm keeping the faith and confidence that Tesla engineers pull this off. Out of all the interesting solution ideas on this forum, a battery swap seems most practical & elegant so I'd rather wait even longer if this option is possible (y)
that would be awesome. I can almost make it to airport and back with current battery, but not quite. Definitely not if leaving video enabled sentry mode active…that takes 20% of battery leaving on from Friday morning to Monday afternoon.

I totally don’t understand the rating for range. It is 85 miles each way for me to the anirport and somehow the 210 mile range at 71% charge isn’t enough to make it there and back according to the navigation system. Even at 100% battery at departure the system still plans to supercharge during the 170 mile trip.

To me, the cyberbeast planned range is about 150-160 miles assuming 100% charge, roughly half the rated range. Planned range seems reasonably accurate for actual range when I make the journey…maybe off by 1 or 2 battery percentage points…

I forget what CT rated range is, but real life range has got to be about ½ rated range. I suppose if I were only looking at starting from 80% real range is 125-130 miles.
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