Range Extender Battery removed from Cybertruck online configurator

[JackCypher]

The problem is it is not consistent.
If you assume 300 miles or 4 hours is the bladder test, it doesn't hold up to the 60min test when towing a trailer. Which is fine if there is a battery pack you can add.

Just all the towing marketing does not match up with the bladder logic with taking the pack away.

Completely agree, especially when towing. The towing range is embarrassingly dismal.

For me I never envisioned towing with my CT - however, many, many do and that is one of the compelling reasons to have a cargo hauling capable vehicle.

Installing 500 mile range of battery - would allow perhaps in the 'high 200' miles of towing - which might be acceptable?

I laugh when I see all these new 'battery' technologies touting 600 miles, or 1,000 miles of range. The manufactures would simply not put that many of the new batteries, they'd put less and make money.

I suppose then the ONE CT option would be a 500/600 mile range model 'for towing'. I wonder if there is a market for a 'battery'd trailer' that would extend the range of your EV?.

Regards
Jack

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[65SoYoLO]

He said on JRE people think they need more range in a truck, but in the real world, it's simply not true. He said for the 1 or 2 times you will tow long distance per year, there should be ample fast Super Chargers

He is wrong.

 

[65SoYoLO]

For me I never envisioned towing with my CT - however, many, many do and that is one of the compelling reasons to have a cargo hauling capable vehicle.

Regards
Jack

I am retired and do A lot of camping/traveling. I have 30,000+ miles in
less then a year and want MASSIVE range, both while towing and just driving. I HATE stopping for gas or to charge.

 

[WHIZZARD OF OZ]

This felt like its always been Vaporware to me.. Especially when we found out how much room for Cells still exist in the current battery pack. I believe Sandy Munroe did a teardown of the battery pack and claimed it was only half full.

Sandy is a great Human....he even asked me to write a song about Detroit which he gave to the Mayor as he tells me
I'm a half glass full guy ...l don't think the patch is half full ...there is a 35 mm gap below the pack as l understand for impact intrusion safety ? ? Magin of error ....in like Error Flynn

 

[WHIZZARD OF OZ]

You can put in longer cells and still have clearance. 110mm cells (30 mm longer) would give the 40% range boost of the extender.

You remove the 'safety' margin if you do... Go hit some hard rock and find out what might happen if you take away that 35 mm or so!?!?;!

I'm not an Engineering Guru or claim to know what I'm talkin' 'bout. In the '80s l was trained by Mr Jennings in Beaconsfield @ Port Machinery to design Potato Industry heavy Machinery. I retired 3 years earlier at 24 when l was a young Architect with Cocks & Carmichael.
btw 'What did Mister Potato Head say when he saw the First Fleet Cross the WILD GREEN SEAS!?!?!?


'CH!PS AHOY'. ( Written 195 days ago )

 

[Gigahorse]

Completely agree, especially when towing. The towing range is embarrassingly dismal.

For me I never envisioned towing with my CT - however, many, many do and that is one of the compelling reasons to have a cargo hauling capable vehicle.

Installing 500 mile range of battery - would allow perhaps in the 'high 200' miles of towing - which might be acceptable?

I laugh when I see all these new 'battery' technologies touting 600 miles, or 1,000 miles of range. The manufactures would simply not put that many of the new batteries, they'd put less and make money.

I suppose then the ONE CT option would be a 500/600 mile range model 'for towing'. I wonder if there is a market for a 'battery'd trailer' that would extend the range of your EV?.

Regards
Jack

Yup 500 miles of real world regular range would net 200-300 towing depending on the load which is perfectly acceptable WITH quick charging.

BUT what we have now is 70-120 miles of towing with 3 glorious minutes at 300kw charging then back down to Model Y sedan charging rates but with twice the battery size. A miss on both metrics.

 

[afinegan]

Yup 500 miles of real world regular range would net 200-300 towing depending on the load which is perfectly acceptable WITH quick charging.

BUT what we have now is 70-120 miles of towing with 3 glorious minutes at 300kw charging then back down to Model Y sedan charging rates but with twice the battery size. A miss on both metrics.

More like 150-170 miles - I believe you are driving too fast (plenty of reports including my testing proves this), still, if we can get 250+ miles would be the towing sweet spot, Kind of wish the trailer would plug into the truck and supply the extra power needed. When you driving without the trailer you don't need to carry the extra weight. This is the best of both worlds (and I believe there are a connection on the cybertruck battery for the extended battery for this special cable - just wish tesla would let us turn special things on and off, and modify our vehicles more - its the ONE THING ICE vehicles have over us, we can't modify our power and drivetrains yet.....)

 

[scottf200]

l don't think the patch is half full ...there is a 35 mm gap below the pack as l understand for impact intrusion safety ?

From yesterdays post here is a visual in the video:

 

[REM]

Remember battery day? This was presented as a fully formed product. The “incremental” improvements in prior cell density have been nowhere near what the proponents have predicted (the 15% per year projections have been WAY off base). 500 mile range was to be day one, not ten years from now, if ever. Range was the Original Tesla magic. It does not exist with a CT acting as a real truck.

Can you show me where they stated that?

 

[WHIZZARD OF OZ]

Yup 500 miles of real world regular range would net 200-300 towing depending on the load which is perfectly acceptable WITH quick charging.

BUT what we have now is 70-120 miles of towing with 3 glorious minutes at 300kw charging then back down to Model Y sedan charging rates but with twice the battery size. A miss on both metrics.

It could be worse....imagine putting DIE_SEL into your Truck or Your
G R A V E.
'Send me dead flowers every morning
And l won't forget to Roses on your grave! ( Rolling Stones ) ? ? ?

 

[WHIZZARD OF OZ]

From yesterdays post here is a visual in the video:

Thx Scott.....That's a battery pack on it's side ....do you concur?!?!?!

Beam me up if l'm off the mark

 

[WHIZZARD OF OZ]

More like 150-170 miles - I believe you are driving too fast (plenty of reports including my testing proves this), still, if we can get 250+ miles would be the towing sweet spot, Kind of wish the trailer would plug into the truck and supply the extra power needed. When you driving without the trailer you don't need to carry the extra weight. This is the best of both worlds (and I believe there are a connection on the cybertruck battery for the extended battery for this special cable - just wish tesla would let us turn special things on and off, and modify our vehicles more - its the ONE THING ICE vehicles have over us, we can't modify our power and drivetrains yet.....)

I worked with A'van for 4 years building Motor Homes on the Fiat platform( READ: DIE_SEL ) It was hard to sell management and the owners, a Dutch Family the concept of having battery packs in the floor of the Caravans along with motors on the Axel's, and go fully electric on the RVs.
Folks, l tried and tried again, only to have that vision in 2016/17 fall on Blind Ears!
Friends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your Eyes!
The EYES have it ....

 

[scottf200]

Thx Scott.....That's a battery pack on it's side ....do you concur?!?!?!

Beam me up if l'm off the mark

If the top of those 4680 batteries are 46, then it looks a little more than 35. In either case it is certaily less than 80! (eg double stack)

 

[HaulingAss]

So what happens now. Does Tesla

1. Abandon all towing claims, marketing, and hope?

What towing claims are you talking about?

Please be specific.

 

[HaulingAss]

Can you show me where they stated that?

Of course he can't. Because Tesla never said all the benefits of the 4680 cells that were in the beginning stages of development would have all the benefits from day 1.

It has always been a multi-year project. Obviously.

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