FSD 14 release next month will start nagging much less - says Musk

[Fugue]

I can't believe I'm responding to these ideas...

You're wasting your time, brother.

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[ABILISK]

Well, they have to keep up if they’re going to be considered “better.” They may be less naggy, but that sounds like the only pro so far. They got stuck on an enhanced autopilot type system while FSD can do everything now.

You really can’t compare something that can only drive on divided highways to FSD which will figure out crazy construction zones, city streets, stop signs, and traffic lights.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m open to and interested in all auto makers’ various versions of ADAS, but you’ve sent me down a research rabbit hole and I simply can’t be be impressed by this whatsoever, even if it is less naggy.

 

[doggod]

I am under the belief that ecto does not own or drive a Tesla product

 

[ABILISK]

You lost me pretty early on in that nonsense… I look forward to unsupervised FSD, but am a realist and know that there are steps that need to be taken to get it there, so I’m in it for the long run and am happy with what I have now.

The prediction of unsupervised FSD by the end of 2025 was clearly for the 3/Y, not CT. We won’t get it by the end of the year, and we were never promised such a thing. But your praised Toyota system is a huge step down IMO but if you’d be happier with that, by all means do what makes you happy.

 

[ABILISK]

Ah, so it’s better at what it does, now we’re getting somewhere. Alright, if you have experienced both and say Toyota’s system is better on a divided freeway, I’ll accept that. But I’ll stand by the fact that FSD is a more useful system overall, since it does infinitely more than Toyota’s.
Anyone who watched the We, Robot event and had any common sense knew this fact. Per your other replies, you’re an experienced Tesla owner. You should be able to speak Elon by now.

 

[ABILISK]

Grok isn’t anything special in my experience. Sometimes it’s good, other times it gives some pretty stupid answers. Nothing it says can be cited as a source yet.

It doesn’t come down to the hardware, it comes down to efficient inference compute. CT has its own FSD stack due to being a larger vehicle with more tech like SBW/4WS. It’s its own animal, and it will take a while for it to catch up. If you don’t use it because it annoys you, you’re delaying unsupervised FSD for the rest of us. That’s your right and all, but quit whining about it to those of us putting in the time.

 

[CyberGus]

All (almost all) ADAS systems are just that: Level 2 Driver Assist. Which means the driver should be paying attention. Which means you get nagged when you're not.

Otherwise, you get sued.


A jury orders Tesla to pay more than $240 million in Autopilot crash

[Attorney] Schreiber acknowledged that the driver, George McGee, was negligent when he blew through flashing lights, a stop sign and a T-intersection at 62 miles an hour before slamming into a Chevrolet Tahoe that the couple had parked to get a look at the stars...

But Schreiber said Tesla was at fault nonetheless. He said Tesla allowed drivers to act recklessly by not disengaging the Autopilot as soon as they begin to show signs of distraction...

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/02/nx-s1-5490930/tesla-autopilot-crash-jury-240-million-florida

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