New FSD how to set a speed

[OBX]

I have found that scrolling the wheel up or down one click and then immediately returning to the mode it was set on will nudge it a bit in each direction

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[Thunderstrike44]

FSD and right side wheel does not set to the Max speed you want to go anymore, that control now sets the Drive Mode from Sloth to MadMax. Remember you can also set a Offset in the Autopilot screen either Plus or Minus. I am trying to find a balance better modes and my offset. Not yet but almost there though.
Also to the Police question, don't believe 9 miles over is safe. My step son is a police officer his saying is "8 is fine Nine your mine". All I am going to say is pick your poison boys and girls but remember, someday it may come back to bite you.

 

[SCTesla]

FSD and right side wheel does not set to the Max speed you want to go anymore, that control now sets the Drive Mode from Sloth to MadMax. Remember you can also set a Offset in the Autopilot screen either Plus or Minus. I am trying to find a balance better modes and my offset. Not yet but almost there though.
Also to the Police question, don't believe 9 miles over is safe. My step son is a police officer his saying is "8 is fine Nine your mine". All I am going to say is pick your poison boys and girls but remember, someday it may come back to bite you.

The offset is irrelevant with FSD. It's just for your speed limit warning.

 

[georgek43]

So i have updated the fsd but now cannot figure out how to determine the speed.

Also what do you do when the truck does not recognize the actual speed limit? So many times it is showing the speed limit of 40mph but it is 55mph

I also hear all the hype about how the autonomous speed selection is better- but it’s definitely not. It might be OK if the speed limit data in navigation were correct- but it’s not. I was using FSD almost 100% of the time- I can no longer do that in good conscience- the vehicle drives dangerously, going way too fast even in sloth mode (what a stupid name btw for a mode that drives full speed limit)

‘’sloth“ is supposed to go the speed limit- it does, ‘from a certain point of view’ as Obi Wan said- but it goes what the navigation system thinks the limit is, not the posted real speed limits. Sometimes it appears the system will read a speed limit sign, but not often. Certainly not often enough.

I’ve asked Tesla to revert my CT to FSD13- they will not. They keep telling me FSD14 is better- it is not. I have taken lots of local trips, and 200+ mile trips on highways and interstates- I do not see a significant improvement in driving behavior over FSD13. On local streets I’m disengaging FSD14 dozens of times during each drive. On the highway it requires far far more driver intervention on the scroll wheel to keep anywhere close to a legal or even safe speed, and often requires disengaging. Click up, click down over and over and over to toggle between modes to attempt a safe speed. On the interstates, instead of relaxing at a set speed, one must constantly monitor the car speed creeping up into ‘moving violation‘ territory while keeping a sharp eye out for the State Troopers to avoid a speeding ticket. How is that an improvement?

And even toggling mode, the control is imprecise, with the vehicle speed oscillating going from too fast to too slow instead of a steady set speed. It’s really aggravating. A couple weeks ago my drives, whether neighborhood streets or interstates were almost stress free. I love my CT, was one of Tesla’s biggest supporters and best salesmen. That has all changed with this one removal of allowing the driver to set maximum speed. It’s really upsetting to lose a cherished part of my day. I loved my self driving Tesla a couple weeks ago, always looking forward to taking it out - not so much today. I’m looking for a workaround that does not involve trading the vehicle.

As it is now, FSD14 is dangerous, drives illegally fast and instead of increasing FSD use, it’s going to decrease it. I can no longer use FSD on 90% of my local drives because it speeds way over the limit due to incorrect speed limit data. The autonomous drive is doing what it’s supposed to do, but it’s operating on bad speed data, and the developers have taken away the ability for the driver- who is legally responsible for the vehicle- to correct the critical error of incorrect speed data. It might be doing things better behind the scenes, but in reality it goes too fast in many settings.

I don’t care that much about E2E- I can pull into my garage myself and enter and exit parking lots myself. Before FSD14 I might used FSD in a lot a few times, but I could at least have the vehicle drive at a safe slow speed. Not anymore- it tries to do 45 in most parking lots before I hit the brake.

oh, and now the car tries to stop and flashes ‘stop’ as I pull into my garage, thinking in incorrectly that there is an obstacle. Never did that before.

FSD14 has only been out a short time, but I don’t think the decision to prevent the driver from setting maximum speed is going to age well. I don’t like it all. I’m hoping for an update that corrects this decision. Maybe a option to “manually set max speed” like ManMax in addition to MadMax.

Tesla sales are hurting. My primary reason to own a Tesla is the ability for the vehicle to self drive in neighborhoods and local drives, which most manufacturers do not offer. It seems Tesla has effectively withdrawn that ability from their cars and trucks. I do not think this decision is going to help sell Teslas. I hope the devs come to their senses and it’s a temporary decision.

 

[AZCYBER]

I've got news for you.

If you want FSD that will always go exactly 9 mph over, you are out of luck for the rest of your life. The technology adapts to existing conditions taking into account the weather, the traffic movements and placement around you in real time.

It's self-driving because you are no longer making the decisions. If you want to make the decisions you will need to drive it yourself.

Think of it this way: Actual autonomous driving will be many times safer than human drivers, in part because it's intelligent and doesn't base speeds and paths on personal preferences, but on what works. That means the technology actually has intelligence and it won't take kindly to backseat drivers, not anymore than you do. FSD is disrespecting backseat drivers more and more every iteration. At first it wanted all the help it could get, a little nudge of the accelerator telling it was OK to proceed, etc. But the more developed it becomes, the more it will tell you to stop trying to drive the car, it knows what it's doing.

That's why these things are being gradually removed, they are becoming more baked into the operation of the system, based on actual knowledge of risk present. If you want to drive, then drive the car yourself!

I disagree. The smokies will be writing a lot of tickets. FSD doesn't make the laws. I got stopped for 62 in a 55 TODAY, in standard mode. Look like I'll need Chill in Pinal County, AZ.

 

[Dvldogg05]

I disagree. The smokies will be writing a lot of tickets. FSD doesn't make the laws. I got stopped for 62 in a 55 TODAY, in standard mode. Look like I'll need Chill in Pinal County, AZ.

This is the problem i see coming

 

[AZCYBER]

Mad Max can be way over +12 fwiw.

In a 55 limit, I get +7 in standard.

 

[AZCYBER]

So i have updated the fsd but now cannot figure out how to determine the speed.

Also what do you do when the truck does not recognize the actual speed limit? So many times it is showing the speed limit of 40mph but it is 55mph

You can't set the max speed, only the mode. I don't like it!

 

[hemiarch]

I disagree. The smokies will be writing a lot of tickets. FSD doesn't make the laws. I got stopped for 62 in a 55 TODAY, in standard mode. Look like I'll need Chill in Pinal County, AZ.

Man. The Arizona cops are rough sometimes. @CT_AZ_4x4 is an attorney and told me the new favorite is ticketing cloud plates in the HOV lane with only a driver so watch out.

 

[georgek43]

The offset is irrelevant with FSD. It's just for your speed limit warning.

I find this interesting, AI5 is delayed, so AI4 Is tasked with autonomous driving a la FSD14- “puts the burden of solving Unsupervised FSD firmly on the hardware currently shipping in millions of customer vehicles.” I guess we’re a test bed.

https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/3...mid-2027-cybercab-will-launch-on-ai4-hardware

I disagree. The smokies will be writing a lot of tickets. FSD doesn't make the laws. I got stopped for 62 in a 55 TODAY, in standard mode. Look like I'll need Chill in Pinal County, AZ.

i do not think anyone is asking for an FSD that only goes 9mph over the posted limit. The point is the maximum speed- of course the FSD must adjust to weather, road conditions and traffic. BUT the driver MUST be able to set the maximum speed or safety will be seriously compromised, the government is going to get rich off fines, the insurance rates will skyrocket, and people are going to get hurt.

FSD13 was near perfect. To date my experience with FSD14 is disappointing, frustrating and a significant downgrade from previous self driving. I hope it gets fixed soon.

 

[georgek43]

In a 55 limit, I get +7 in standard.

Most jurisdictions allow 10% over. We could set that in FSD13. We need it back.

 

[jeniferkey]

As it is now, FSD14 is dangerous, drives illegally fast and instead of increasing FSD use, it’s going to decrease it. I can no longer use FSD on 90% of my local drives

I had similar issues a couple of years ago when FSD stopped using the radar in my Model 3. I did have the luxury of rolling back to no FSD and did. In that case without radar the car would stop at oncoming headlights, tar marks and other false positives. My husband refused to ride in the car if I used FSD because it was unsafe. I think current FSD will improve again, but it seems wrong to roll it out half baked.

 

[golflyer]

Is anyone else also having the wiper go all the time now with fsd14? Mine makes a swipe at least once every couple of minutes.

 

[Thunderstrike44]

The offset is irrelevant with FSD. It's just for your speed limit warning.

Well that's dumb.... Well then what others are posting here is off I think. My "Hurry" mode is 10 mph above the posted read speed. Standard is 5 mph above, and Chill is the speed Limit exactly. Sloth mode is the Speed Limit also for me, not sure what it does different?
I also agree Tesla Maps on what the speed is are terrible. Way over 50% the FSD has a wrong speed on the screen and then depending on mode exceeds that. Not Ideal......

 

[SCTesla]

Well that's dumb.... Well then what others are posting here is off I think. My "Hurry" mode is 10 mph above the posted read speed. Standard is 5 mph above, and Chill is the speed Limit exactly. Sloth mode is the Speed Limit also for me, not sure what it does different?
I also agree Tesla Maps on what the speed is are terrible. Way over 50% the FSD has a wrong speed on the screen and then depending on mode exceeds that. Not Ideal......

The profiles indicate how aggressive they will be in respect to the flow of traffic and road conditions. Standard can go over the limit by a few miles depending on the flow of traffic, sloth will not. Hurry will even go the limit depending on traffic or road conditions.

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