MKBHD review Ferrari Luce

[devdrone6]

The hits keep coming!

I don’t see a BAW though

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[Cybertruck2024]

They should only show it from the front, it looks pretty good at that angle. From the side it is not a great look.

Hard to be too critical without driving, but it better feel amazing at that price.

 

[Gaximus]

He didn’t say it like he was kissing their ass, he kind of had a “this a weird way of doing it” way of saying I’ve never seen this before and he was referring to it having two vertical wipers.

 

[Gaximus]

The lack of physical connection is not a merit though. I would absolutely prefer a vehicle with even a backup physical shaft connecting wheels. We have already seen examples of the steering going floppy because of some fault. I’ve been too long in the technology space to trust pure computers and electronics over a physical connection.

Physical connection is not steer by wire and doesn’t allow for variable ratio steering which is what makes it great. CT already has a backup system.

 

[vandytom]

I don’t see a BAW though

Yea I’ve been calling all frost blue on Tesla Reddit Duce lol

 

[vandytom]

He didn’t say it like he was kissing their ass, he kind of had a “this a weird way of doing it” way of saying I’ve never seen this before and he was referring to it having two vertical wipers.

He didn’t give any hint to CyberTruck whatsoever. Zero excuse. He OWNED ONE. Also never clarify the double wipers. He was trying not to piss me off Ferrari. That’s ass kissing.

 

[Gaximus]

He didn’t give any hint to CyberTruck whatsoever. Zero excuse. He OWNED ONE. Also never clarify the double wipers. He was trying not to piss me off Ferrari. That’s ass kissing.

I thought the same thing when I heard him say it, like dude cybertruck has it, and you had one. But I didn’t feel like he was giving the design praise. It felt like it was giving it some shade. To be fair. The single vertical wiper is a bad design, Elon hated it, it was just the only solution, that’s why the prototype didn’t have it.

 

[Setok]

Physical connection is not steer by wire and doesn’t allow for variable ratio steering which is what makes it great. CT already has a backup system.

CT does not have a physical backup system.

I know that steer by wire allows variable ratio steering. I would easily give that up for a physical connection.

(Remembering that rear wheel steer can still be done with steer by wire in that case)

 

[Gaximus]

CT does not have a physical backup system.

I know that steer by wire allows variable ratio steering. I would easily give that up for a physical connection.

(Remembering that rear wheel steer can still be done with steer by wire in that case)

No I didn’t say it has physical backup system. It has a backup redundancy system. It has had 0 incidents so far with a failure or the steering system.
i would give up rear wheel steering before giving up the variable steering. I’d give up my CT before giving up the SBW, that is what make the CT the best vehicle to drive, remove that and it’ll feel like driving any other car on the road.

 

[HaulingAss]

I know that steer by wire allows variable ratio steering. I would easily give that up for a physical connection.

How many miles of experience do you have in any vehicle with variable steering ratio and no physical connection?

 

[VAF84]

This is pretty funny. I'm an ex-Ferrari owner and spend a lot of time on their forums. It's already a tough crowd when it comes to any EV, and it's been a rage fest, borderline riot, for the first 24hrs after the unveil.

As a CT fan, ironically, after cooling off and letting my incredulity die down, I used the CT as an example to give the car a chance. The CT design is just as polarizing as the Luce, but at least for me, the sales pitch for the CT is its capability and technology more than looks. I advocated for giving it a chance until the driving impression videos come out. Maybe this turns out to be the first EV to capture the visceral ICE driving experience. If it fails at that though, it's DOA.

Check out the interview with the designers, it's actually a good listen.

Cleo Abram's interview with Jony Ive and Flavio Manzony

 

[Gaximus]

They should only show it from the front, it looks pretty good at that angle. From the side it is not a great look.

Hard to be too critical without driving, but it better feel amazing at that price.

Cars need to be beautiful, it’s not just function over form. A great car should have both. And at that price it should be beautiful.

There are some cars I don’t, like the Porsche, I can see the beauty in it though, I can see how and why it’s beautiful, and why they are considered beautiful cars, but personally I don’t like the style. But this does not have beauty, it’s a compromise, to have range and fit a heavy thick battery. Just like the Mustang Mach E, this thing shouldnt be allowed to have the name it carries. And I’m not even a Ferrari fan.

 

[Setok]

No I didn’t say it has physical backup system. It has a backup redundancy system. It has had 0 incidents so far with a failure or the steering system.
i would give up rear wheel steering before giving up the variable steering. I’d give up my CT before giving up the SBW, that is what make the CT the best vehicle to drive, remove that and it’ll feel like driving any other car on the road.

Just recently an incident was reported where steering went.

The steering went limp on the Wheelin’ Diesel truck, making it tricky to remove. I realise that was quite drastic stuff, but it shows it can happen when electric systems go down.

 

[Setok]

How many miles of experience do you have in any vehicle with variable steering ratio and no physical connection?

Zero

 

[TruckDaddy]

Predicting 80% depreciation after 2 years.

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