Rivian R1T Refresh (Gen 2) Dethrones CyberBeast? 0-60 in 2.5s

[DRKTruck]

4 biggest shortcomings of the new Rivians:

Limited to 250kW charging
(CyberTruck can do 350kW)

No Steer by Wire

No Self Driving (coming to CyberTruck next month!)

Not bullet resistant!

As for purported 0-60 time of <2.5secs, MotorTrend achieved 2.5 with all Terrain tires on CyberBeast…getting it under 2.5 with sport tires is a given.

Nice try but no cigar Rivianites!?

exactly. And in interviews motor trend said if they out on street tires like the Rivian, they’d likely shave another few seconds.
2.5 with this CT tires is amazing.
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/...tion-series-electric-truck-first-test-review/

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[SentinelOne]

we need some good tire options with 130mph speed rating and appropriate load rating....I want summer / street perf setup and an off-road / winter setup...

 

[SteelMyHeart]

Don't do it BeastForce1! The other CTs in my town are AWD, they all feel bad about theirs after seeing my Beast. It's worth the wait, unless you want to join the full-of-regret club. The Rivian Quad will just make that club feel even worse in 2025.

If you need a hold over truck, buy a Lariat (better than AWD IMO). If you want the best, you're on the right track.

Ultimate regret is spending an extra 20k to not have the fastest truck and get a light bar that is not street legal. If the bias of awd owners is to get truck earlier to have eyeballs on them, the beast bias is I gotta have the fastest truck ever yet many beast orders haven't been fulfilled yet and it is already surpassed.

 

[Cybertruck2024]

Ultimate regret is spending an extra 20k to not have the fastest truck and get a light bar that is not street legal. If the bias of awd owners is to get truck earlier to have eyeballs on them, the beast bias is I gotta have the fastest truck ever yet many beast orders haven't been fulfilled yet and it is already surpassed.

Or the AWD owners could've bought an even better product in 2022 and not waited two years for a downgrade? We can play this game all day.

 

[HaulingAss]

I feel like a lot of people are splitting hairs here on insignificant things like tenths of a second or a few more miles range (when that comes with fewer fast DC chargers).

If you're going to compare trucks, then treat them like trucks. With real estate it's "location, location, location". With trucks it's "the bed, the bed, the bed". And the small bed of the Rivian excludes it from my consideration. Along with the bed goes cargo capacity and towing capability. I don't know what the cargo capacity of the Rivian is, but with the big battery it's a good bet it's not great. However, if you can live with the tiny bed, then the cargo capacity is probably sufficient.

What I see when I compare these two trucks is that Tesla totally negated the advantages of the smaller form factor of the Rivians by giving Cybertruck Steer-by-wire and four wheel steering. It really does make the bigger truck perform like a much smaller truck in confined spaces. So you get real truck hauling capacity with the nimbleness of a smaller ute. This has never been done, and, no, GM's Quadrasteer doesn't count because the synergy of the rear steering with the quick turning of steer-by-wire is what makes it so nimble. Quadrasteer alone only got them half-way there.

Fun fact, when GM first released the Quadrasteer it was a $7,000 option. Then they reduced it to $5,600 when it wasn't selling, and eventually all the way down to around $1,000. Of course, those prices are in dollars from 20 years ago. Even though it was offered on four Chevy/GMC models, they produced less than 20K vehicles with Quadrasteer over the three model years it was offered. That means Tesla will surpass them in the first full year of Cybertruck sales.

 

[mongo]

and get a light bar that is not street legal

No roof mounted light bar is street legal (unless on a really short vehicle). Maximum height for headlights is 54 inches.
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/subtitle-B/chapter-V/part-571/subpart-B/section-571.108

 

[RoboTaxi]

I’ll take the armored truck that handles like a sports car any day over one that might be faster. I’m still waiting for one of you crazy internet folks to remove the steel shell and add a carbon fiber body to the CT.

 

[jditom]

While we don't have all the specs, configurations and prices yet. It can be assumed based on the current Quad motor, that the new Quad motor will only do 2.4s 0-60 on sticky summer only tires. The Tri-motor does it on A/T tires, and will probably do it faster on summer tires. Not defending or dismissing. Just trying to compare apples to apples.

I mean, its still batshit fast any way you slice it and congrats to Rivian. I do really hope they're no longer loosing money on every truck sold after this update. So they can survive long term.

Ive been saying that over and over. 2.6 on the street with AT tires. Dethrone on paper until we do a quality drag race side by side with the same tires for those who give a shit. I love Rivian and I also think there owners are tools.
I hope they make it but they are not really making there version 2 that much cheaper to build.

 

[Arctic_White]

You should have bought the Dual Motor, like I did, you would probably already be driving it around.

I'm not sure what you want Tesla to tell you, there is more demand than supply, and the demand landscape is constantly changing (so it's difficult for Tesla to predict how many will convert reservations to actual orders).

I think the take rate is rising, as the positive experiences of real people taking delivery start to drown out the initial negativity about stupid things like lack of FSD, lack of off-road capability, sharp corners, fingerprints, weak brakes, panel gaps, etc. etc. etc.

If the truck was over-priced crap, you would already have one! As it is, you have to wait your turn.

Bingo.

And the Cybertruck isn't even available for sale in Canda yet. For those that don't know, Canada buyers more Cybertruck per capita than in the States.

I suspect that if you were to place a reservation today, you would be lucky to get one in 2026.

 

[SentinelOne]

I’ll take the armored truck that handles like a sports car any day over one that might be faster. I’m still waiting for one of you crazy internet folks to remove the steel shell and add a carbon fiber body to the CT.

CF Shell would be awesome!

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