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I have had a number of drivers taking photos of CT almost side swiped a number of times
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I thought so at first but I think its just the way the video plays back sometimes. click "play" several times in a row and you will see speed stays consistent and its the video playback thats making it look otherwise at times
Do you speak for OP?
I thought so at first but I think its just the way the video plays back sometimes. click "play" several times in a row and you will see speed stays consistent and its the video playback thats making it look otherwise at times
I would still like to hear it from OP. When I see video clips cut so short like this one I get a bit skeptical. what happened 30 seconds before this?
 

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Do you speak for OP?

I would still like to hear it from OP. When I see video clips cut so short like this one I get a bit skeptical. what happened 30 seconds before this?
It doesn’t matter if he sped up or not. He kept in his lane. The other driver should’ve looked and signaled that he/she was merging over. It’s the other person’s fault for sure.
 

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Do you speak for OP?

I would still like to hear it from OP. When I see video clips cut so short like this one I get a bit skeptical. what happened 30 seconds before this?
Regardless what happened before this individual either on accident or on purpose side swiped him. Clear as day.
 

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Agree. But think I would have been able to avoid contact from either vehicle. It usually takes two people not paying attention or insisting on their right of way or raging or something.
 


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Seems like they did it on purpose - they didn't make contact and move back over, they hit you and kept pushing!

Ironic, if you had just stayed in your lane, you'd have done a perfect pit maneuver on their little van and sent them sideways/rolling. You may have saved their stupid lives.
 

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Recently my wife and I were returning from a series of car shows and got sideswiped on the highway.

The other driver was passing us on the right, seemed to be speeding excessively, appeared to be in our lane when he was behind us and may have been following us for some time. We cant say if he was aggressive, under the influence or distracted, but hit us HARD!

Originally we thought it was a ā€œhit and runā€ as the other driver left the seen without a word. Turned out to be a local resident who was quickly interviewed then released from a parking lot. He is claiming it’s our fault and has filed a claim. The video seems to show otherwise.

Anyone else had problems?

I’m guessing we need a good lawyer familiar with Kansas. Thoughts, recommendations? Anything would be greatly appreciated…we are very shaken and car shows are over.

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Glad nobody was hurt, the van was lucky that they did not pit maneuver themselves!
 

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I always wonder about whether the driver has a valid license and insurance. Here in California it seems you can get away with it. Back in the UK, if you got caught driving without a license or insurance, the cops towed your vehicle away and crushed it. I can only hope one day they will do something similar here.
 

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Looks like you accelerated hard at the last second. Did you?
Yes, it's clear the OP punched the accelerator of the Cyberbeast about two seconds before impact.

I'm unsure of the legal ramifications, but the evidence is clear. The video provides two undeniable clues;

1) The speed of the striped lane marker accelerates markedly about one second into the video. Unless the lane line stripes changed spacing on that section of road, the Cyberbeast suddenly accelerated.

2) One can observe the attitude of the car on the suspension by paying attention to the attitude of the camera (because the camera is rigidly attached to the windshield, which is attached rigidly to the chassis of the Cyberbeast). The chassis is suspended above the road by the suspension which rises in the front under sudden acceleration, it's the opposite of brake dive. As the passing car rolls by the Cyberbeast, you can see the nose of the Cyberbeast suddenly rise. The most obvious reference point to use to observe this is the horizontal level of the top of the concrete divider wall (where it falls on the left side of the video frame). Because this level suddenly lowers in the video frame, we can deduce with 100% reliability that the attitude of the Cybertruck chassis suddenly became more nose high.

What else could have caused this besides a sudden burst of the awesome acceleration of the Cyberbeast? Sure, if the two rear air suspension units suddenly lost pressure, the nose of the Cyberbeast would jerk upwards and might imitate a sudden acceleration. But that would not explain #1 (above). And the OP did not mention that his rear suspension suddenly failed moments before impact.

The undeniable conclusion is that the OP suddenly accelerated strongly right before the over-taking car changed back into the fast lane. Certainly, the other driver failed to account for a sudden acceleration and had unacceptably low situational awareness. This kind of lackadaisical driving is all too common on our roadways. I'm not trying to excuse it, not at all, but with great power comes great responsibility. I've known this in the 6 years I've been driving a Model 3 Performance. I know it can seemingly warp time and space and surprise other drivers. Which is why, before I floor it, I pay extra attention to other cars on the road, to appraise whether I could surprise a sleepy or distracted driver by being somewhere they didn't expect me to be.

The OP made a poor choice to add a sudden burst of power, it may have even been more of an emotional reaction than a conscious decision. But that doesn't excuse it.

To be clear, from a legal perspective I'm not certain where the legal liability lies, or how it is divided up. But from a practical, common-sense perspective, both drivers share responsibility, both drivers exhibited extremely poor judgement and extremely poor situational awareness. This kind of accident was entirely avoidable, by either party. It should have never happened.
 

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Yes, it's clear the OP punched the accelerator of the Cyberbeast about two seconds before impact.

I'm unsure of the legal ramifications, but the evidence is clear. The video provides two undeniable clues;

1) The speed of the striped lane marker accelerates markedly about one second into the video. Unless the lane line stripes changed spacing on that section of road, the Cyberbeast suddenly accelerated.

2) One can observe the attitude of the car on the suspension by paying attention to the attitude of the camera (because the camera is rigidly attached to the windshield, which is attached rigidly to the chassis of the Cyberbeast). The chassis is suspended above the road by the suspension which rises in the front under sudden acceleration, it's the opposite of brake dive. As the passing car rolls by the Cyberbeast, you can see the nose of the Cyberbeast suddenly rise. The most obvious reference point to use to observe this is the horizontal level of the top of the concrete divider wall (where it falls on the left side of the video frame). Because this level suddenly lowers in the video frame, we can deduce with 100% reliability that the attitude of the Cybertruck chassis suddenly became more nose high.

What else could have caused this besides a sudden burst of the awesome acceleration of the Cyberbeast? Sure, if the two rear air suspension units suddenly lost pressure, the nose of the Cyberbeast would jerk upwards and might imitate a sudden acceleration. But that would not explain #1 (above). And the OP did not mention that his rear suspension suddenly failed moments before impact.

The undeniable conclusion is that the OP suddenly accelerated strongly right before the over-taking car changed back into the fast lane. Certainly, the other driver failed to account for a sudden acceleration and had unacceptably low situational awareness. This kind of lackadaisical driving is all too common on our roadways. I'm not trying to excuse it, not at all, but with great power comes great responsibility. I've known this in the 6 years I've been driving a Model 3 Performance. I know it can seemingly warp time and space and surprise other drivers. Which is why, before I floor it, I pay extra attention to other cars on the road, to appraise whether I could surprise a sleepy or distracted driver by being somewhere they didn't expect me to be.

The OP made a poor choice to add a sudden burst of power, it may have even been more of an emotional reaction than a conscious decision. But that doesn't excuse it.

To be clear, from a legal perspective I'm not certain where the legal liability lies, or how it is divided up. But from a practical, common-sense perspective, both drivers share responsibility, both drivers exhibited extremely poor judgement and extremely poor situational awareness. This kind of accident was entirely avoidable, by either party. It should have never happened.
Good observation.
The passing car barely exited the repeater camera field of view. That point is around 3 feet of overlap. Passing car changed lanes before ever developing clearance.
 


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Since no response from the OP about suddenly floored the accelerator (not letting the van to pass and change lane?) or not, I just "assume" he did.

If so, a good lawyer will request a longer video to process the case.

And then I guess 50/50 incident.

Just my $0.02.
 

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Yes, it's clear the OP punched the accelerator of the Cyberbeast about two seconds before impact.

I'm unsure of the legal ramifications, but the evidence is clear. The video provides two undeniable clues;

1) The speed of the striped lane marker accelerates markedly about one second into the video. Unless the lane line stripes changed spacing on that section of road, the Cyberbeast suddenly accelerated.

2) One can observe the attitude of the car on the suspension by paying attention to the attitude of the camera (because the camera is rigidly attached to the windshield, which is attached rigidly to the chassis of the Cyberbeast). The chassis is suspended above the road by the suspension which rises in the front under sudden acceleration, it's the opposite of brake dive. As the passing car rolls by the Cyberbeast, you can see the nose of the Cyberbeast suddenly rise. The most obvious reference point to use to observe this is the horizontal level of the top of the concrete divider wall (where it falls on the left side of the video frame). Because this level suddenly lowers in the video frame, we can deduce with 100% reliability that the attitude of the Cybertruck chassis suddenly became more nose high.

What else could have caused this besides a sudden burst of the awesome acceleration of the Cyberbeast? Sure, if the two rear air suspension units suddenly lost pressure, the nose of the Cyberbeast would jerk upwards and might imitate a sudden acceleration. But that would not explain #1 (above). And the OP did not mention that his rear suspension suddenly failed moments before impact.

The undeniable conclusion is that the OP suddenly accelerated strongly right before the over-taking car changed back into the fast lane. Certainly, the other driver failed to account for a sudden acceleration and had unacceptably low situational awareness. This kind of lackadaisical driving is all too common on our roadways. I'm not trying to excuse it, not at all, but with great power comes great responsibility. I've known this in the 6 years I've been driving a Model 3 Performance. I know it can seemingly warp time and space and surprise other drivers. Which is why, before I floor it, I pay extra attention to other cars on the road, to appraise whether I could surprise a sleepy or distracted driver by being somewhere they didn't expect me to be.

The OP made a poor choice to add a sudden burst of power, it may have even been more of an emotional reaction than a conscious decision. But that doesn't excuse it.

To be clear, from a legal perspective I'm not certain where the legal liability lies, or how it is divided up. But from a practical, common-sense perspective, both drivers share responsibility, both drivers exhibited extremely poor judgement and extremely poor situational awareness. This kind of accident was entirely avoidable, by either party. It should have never happened.
Well said.
 

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Since the vehicle is so new and (if) the accident was not your fault, you definitely need to go after the other party for diminished value. You will probably need to use a 3rd party (most insurance companies either won't or don't do a good job with diminished value claims). Be sure to find a good (local) resource that will work to get you fair compensation.
 

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Recently my wife and I were returning from a series of car shows and got sideswiped on the highway.

The other driver was passing us on the right, seemed to be speeding excessively, appeared to be in our lane when he was behind us and may have been following us for some time. We cant say if he was aggressive, under the influence or distracted, but hit us HARD!

Originally we thought it was a ā€œhit and runā€ as the other driver left the seen without a word. Turned out to be a local resident who was quickly interviewed then released from a parking lot. He is claiming it’s our fault and has filed a claim. The video seems to show otherwise.

Anyone else had problems?

I’m guessing we need a good lawyer familiar with Kansas. Thoughts, recommendations? Anything would be greatly appreciated…we are very shaken and car shows are over.

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We had a similar situation in California while towing our Ford Explorer behind our RV. A knucklehead was merging onto the freeway and sideswiped our tow vehicle and we didn’t even know it. He then proceeded to pull up on my driver side and motioned for me to pull off the road. He came up to the driver’s window and started cussing and telling me it was my fault that my white car hit him. I told him there was no one in the car and he seemed surprised. We then pulled into well lit parking lot and called the police. I had a dash cam in my RV that caught the whole thing from the front showing him merging and the damage was self-explanatory with the damage to his left front quarter panel and wheel and my right side passenger side doors. It was an open and shut case as far as the insurance company was concerned. As it turns out we had the same company, USAA. What a knucklehead! Had he kept driving, we’d have never known what happened to our Explorer, but because he tried to blame me, karma came back to bite him in the a__!

With your video, it should be an open and shut case for your insurance company. Good luck!
 

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Do you speak for OP?

I would still like to hear it from OP. When I see video clips cut so short like this one I get a bit skeptical. what happened 30 seconds before this?
I don't speak for anyone but myself. I was referring to what I saw in the same video you saw where you asked the question " Looks like you accelerated hard at the last second. Did you? " Based on the video, that was not the case.

as for the rest of the video, before and after....yes, I agree that would add additional context.
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