Cybertruck “Slow boiling Frog” moment

[HaulingAss]

Long enough to fall in love with how it drives, although far too short also. Their demos are heavily controlled. They don’t let you do anything with it, even highway, at all.

So, why do you claim the Cybertruck is a ridiculous mess, what do you know after one short test-drive that those of us who are enjoying it every day don't know? C'mon, spill the beans!

Or are you just jealous seeing those of us driving around in Cybertrucks when you already pulled the trigger on a Rivian?

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[SwampNut]

Or are you just jealous seeing those of us driving around in Cybertrucks when you already pulled the trigger on a Rivian?

Yup, that’s it.

 

[Coagulation]

Long enough to fall in love with how it drives, although far too short also. Their demos are heavily controlled. They don’t let you do anything with it, even highway, at all.

Driving it really put the underscore and exclamation point on the shitty build quality. If the demo is that bad...damn!! So yes, go drive it. You will both laugh and cry.

I know you are just here trolling, but… did you like the truck for your own use cases or not?

 

[SwampNut]

I know you are just here trolling, but

Not true.

did you like the truck for your own use cases or not?

I truly don’t know. The comment I made about my wife divorcing me is pretty accurate, she hates it so much (didn’t drive it). The demo drives are way too restrictive and useful only to be impressed with some features, but I’d never consider owning it without more time. I felt manipulated and controlled to not see certain things.

The fit and finish everywhere, inside and out, is so clownishly horrible and ridiculous. I also wouldn’t consider it without working and tested AP. That’s one of two critical benefits for Tesla and it’s missing.

Once I saw what was actually being delivered I cancelled the reservations and traded our M3LR for the Rivian. I suspect that I’ll be perpetually looking at options since the self driving is so awful in the Rivian. But the quality, finish, and comfort beat our BMW. The CT interior is like a Yugo in comparison.

 

[Ljhughes8]

I...wut...?? English?

I didn't comment on how well it drove, which was absolutely fantastic.

You drove a bad one I got to hit a cone track. Some misspelled words.

 

[SwampNut]

So it drove really well and it was a bad one? Interesting take, but ok.

 

[captn_flatty]

Having been driving my Dual Motor for the last 4+ months through everything from Interstate to mountain goat trails, and everything inbetween, I would have to say Elon and team delivered far more than what I originally envisioned.

From my position, having actually used the truck extensively, you appear gullible to misinformation, like a person who is poorly equipped to sort fact from fiction. I mean, talking about glass cracking left and right, panels that cut the skin, prices out of this world, etc.

To put things into perspective, if I had paid $100K+ for an F-150 King Ranch, Platinum or Raptor with all the fixings, including an unprotected painted bed, no motorized tonneau cover, a body subject to rusting tacked onto a regular steel ladder frame, a stereo that just sounds wrong and can't go loud without massive distortion, lower payload and towing specs, and awkward manuevering in tight spaces with a body that gets damaged if you look at it wrong, and that drinks gas like a drunken sailor, I would feel ripped off. Like the gullible sucker who thought he was playing it safe by following the ignorant masses. That's what over-priced is, driving down the road realizing that you paid a huge sum of money for last centuries technology, a truck that is just a dolled-up version of a cheap, low-tech truck.

As it is, I'm blown away by the toughness, value, driving dynamics and off-road caqpability Tesla was able to incorporate into one vehicle. It's far better than I ever dreamed a real truck could be. It's really a $150K truck but Tesla doesn't want to relegate it to a low-volume halo product, like the Raptor R. If you haven't lived with one day in and day out, using it for real truck purposes, driven it thousands of miles, then you might not have any idea what I'm talking about.

Ty HaulingAss!
My thoughts exactly! I went from an f-150 Platinum to the Dual motor CT and never looked back. I shopped the Lightning as I was getting tired of waiting for the CT and at a cost of over $100K and not many places to charge it and dealing with the other things mentioned above, I am glad I waited. I even chuckle as I walk away from my CT, it locks itself and farts!

 

[eferrer_gil]

After 6K miles driven, moving furniture long distances, driving my family comfortably everywhere and seeing the smiles it puts on people’s faces when you drive by.

Count me in as one of the ones that reserved day 1 and still feel that very happy with what was delivered.

most of the things that catch people’s attention I have not experienced; no cracked glass, finger chopping frunks, the finger print issue is not an issue and I have not wrapped.

Can it improve?, of course!, but that is true for every single car / truck / bike / plane / bicycle out there. Here is my list:
1. A secondary camera for when you are hauling with the tailgate down
2. A step in access for the tail gate, I really was wishing for the integrated ramp shown in the prototype
3. Rethink the rear view mirror inside the cabin. It’s just a decoration right now.

some of the members of this forum have made amazing modifications to address these items so far.

if you end up owning it, hope you enjoy as much as I do.

 

[MisterChilidog]

Does anybody else feel like a new design of the Cybertruck is a “slow boil” of a frog? The initial vision is a large truck with a stainless steel body bent in right places and a unicast that transfers the load from the frame to the body of the truck. It looks massive, impressive, and cyber… Glass is able to withstand rocks, sides the bullets and it seats 6. Moreover, it is going to be so cheap to produce and the range will kick such an ass(500 miles), that it will be a game changer and disruptive for existing truck market. New Cybertruck is the aluminum cast with the raw unambiguous stainless steel plate panels that are thin, unbend, cut the skin, fastened to aluminum cast, smaller truck in size, standard glass that cracks left and right based on feedback, price tag out of this world and nothing but problems. I am a die hard fan for Tesla but I am feeling like something is just wrong between what I have being waiting for 5 years and what is offered. Does anybody else realizing what is happening? Or we are just ready to jump on any grenade as long as it say “Cybertruck” in Tesla’s font on it?

I've tallied 10k miles on mine, so far. The glass has already proven itself stronger than what I had on previous cars. The stainless, while a fingerprint magnet, has proven every bit as tough as promised. I'm on vacation, right now, at Glacier National Park, and yesterday, I drove Going To The Sun in both directions, averaging 284 wh/mile... That's pacing for almost 500 miles of range (I bought the dual motor AWD). I'm tempted to complain about the price, but four years of near-record inflation make it hard for me to defend that gripe, especially considering 4-wheel steering, 48v low voltage architecture and steer-by-wire were not part of the original announcement. The ride quality has utterly blown my mind... Like, to the point where I don't want to drive anything else.

I'm not going to suggest that anyone else shouldn't feel like the deal has been altered. If you're not seeing the product you want, maybe it's not. Maybe you're looking for something else. As for me, I watched the changes in design, as they were revealed, and I was met by the same final price tag and feature-set everyone else was, and I chose to take the plunge. I'm still waiting on FSD, but I already feel like I got more than my money's worth. So, for me, this transaction delivered a BIG value, and I'd feel uncomfortable NOT recommending the Cybertruck to other prospective buyers. For those who've legitimately had negative experiences, I feel bad they didn't get my experience, and I understand why they're withholding their recommendations. Doesn't affect my assessment - it's a winner... Maybe just not the winner we originally thought we would get.

 

[HaulingAss]

After 6K miles driven, moving furniture long distances, driving my family comfortably everywhere and seeing the smiles it puts on people’s faces when you drive by.

Count me in as one of the ones that reserved day 1 and still feel that very happy with what was delivered.

most of the things that catch people’s attention I have not experienced; no cracked glass, finger chopping frunks, the finger print issue is not an issue and I have not wrapped.

Can it improve?, of course!, but that is true for every single car / truck / bike / plane / bicycle out there. Here is my list:
1. A secondary camera for when you are hauling with the tailgate down
2. A step in access for the tail gate, I really was wishing for the integrated ramp shown in the prototype
3. Rethink the rear view mirror inside the cabin. It’s just a decoration right now.

some of the members of this forum have made amazing modifications to address these items so far.

if you end up owning it, hope you enjoy as much as I do.

Pro user tip for step up bed access:

Stand adjacent to the tailgate button looking rearward. Put your left palm just inside of the tailgate button, fingers inside the bed, and step with your left foot onto the bumper (just aft of the wheel arch) with your toes pointing mostly rearward. As you step up rotate your body counter-clockwise and put your right foot on the tailgate. Voila! You are standing in the bed!

In normal height suspension mode, this is an easy step for adults of average size and average physical condition to make, it requires very little actual strength or flexibility. In entry mode it's good for short adults or those having below average leg strength. If you have something heavy in your arms, put it on the tailgate first. This works well on both sides of the truck, the move is just a mirror image.

The same foot step (one on either side) can be used to reach boxes, duffle bags, backpacks, tools, building materials, almost anything, in almost any portion of the bed, without climbing all the way into the bed. Just face forward, put your outside hand on the bed rail, step with the toes of your inside foot pointing forward 45 degrees, just aft of the wheel arch. I can reach stuff in the bed even easier than in my 2010 F-150 4x4 (because the F-150 has no step on the side of the bed).

A number of people made a big deal about lack of bed access, but it's a complete non-issue compared to any other full-sized truck like the Silverado or F-150.

Every time I use my Cybertruck for truck things I discover how much easier it is to get stuff done compared to all other trucks I've used. Of course, I've never had a truck with a "man step" and a fold-out handle.

Now, where can I find a bed mounted, 6-axis, 48V, 1/2 ton robotic arm with a Bluetooth controller that can reach the ground and stows tightly on one side of the bed?

 

[HaulingAss]

The fit and finish everywhere, inside and out, is so clownishly horrible and ridiculous. I also wouldn’t consider it without working and tested AP. That’s one of two critical benefits for Tesla and it’s missing.

Are you really calling all Cybertrucks a "ridiculous mess" because we are waiting for FSD to be delivered (other brands don't even have an option that is as capable as FSD) and because the Cybertruck you allegedly test drove had horrible and ridiculously bad fit and finish, at least according to your standards?

It sounds like you are either unaware, or completely ignoring, that most buyers are getting delivered Cybertrucks that require no cosmetic re-working or only a minor adjustment here or there? The vast majority of us are tickled pink with how nice the Cybertuck is, even the minority of us who had Tesla make minor cosmetic adjustments.

And you are a Rivian owner? They are very nice EVs, but they have a much higher rate of warranty repairs, and for more serious things than minor fit/finish issues, although there is some of that too. Your complaints sound more like sour grapes, now that you don't have one, and your wife wouldn't let you buy one anyway. If you wanted to stay married, you had no choice. I can see who wears the pants in your household!

I would feel sorry for you, if only you weren't dealing with this in such a bitter manner that reflects poorly on you. It makes no sense.

 

[SwampNut]

Are you really calling all Cybertrucks a "ridiculous mess" because we are waiting for FSD

At no time have I said anything about FSD.

at least according to your standards?

Industry standards. Global standards.

Your complaints sound more like sour grapes

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[HaulingAss]

At no time have I said anything about FSD.



Industry standards. Global standards.



HILARIOUS!

Well, that was a poor job of editing my reply in order to avoid responding to the actual points I was making. I used "FSD" as a proxy for all ADAS, like AutoPilot, which you did use to make your case (and you knew exactly what I meant).

I can only conclude that your evasiveness is more evidence that I'm hitting the nail on the head. Sour grapes.

 

[SwampNut]

I can only conclude that your evasiveness

Answering what you actually typed is evasive?

is more evidence

There was never any evidence. I would very well change trucks tomorrow if it seemed like the right thing to do. I'm just telling why I *did* go the other way. As I said many times already, I expect to be continually shopping for years as all this unfolds. Maybe muskrat will pull his head out.

 

[SwampNut]

Meanwhile, these facts generate the same fanboi reaction over on the Rivian forums...


I think there's no reason to own a non-Tesla unless you really need a truck (and the CT is currently a general mess as well as overpriced). R1S vs truck is dumb, it would be more against an X, no?

Tesla is far more capable and safer with actually advanced ADAS and Autopilot.

Rivian is more luxurious and better fitted than the CT.

Which is your priority? I want my Autopilot back, but need a truck.

Aside from that there is charging, which may or may not be an issue in some areas. *WE* have been heavily impacted by the inability to use certain Superchargers where we travel. I've been told this isn't an issue in some places. I can't verify that.

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