If you want an BEV truck quickly, Rivian is the way to go.

[Mini2nut]

I just read that Rivian is assembling 2 R1T‘s per day for a total of 56 R1T trucks so far. They are all going to Rivian employees.

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[ProfessorRon]

If you are still "Thinking" about getting a Cybertruck, it's likely you won't be able to get one for another 4+ years. You can buy the Rivian now and enjoy it for 4 years, then sell it and buy the Cybertruck. Best of both worlds. Assuming you have the cash to drop $85k on a Rivian, take a bath on selling it used, then drop another $70k on a Cybertruck.

Retirement is over-rated.

But I hear they are taking about 75 hours to build 1 Rivian. I tried to verify that but can’t find any info quantity per day. But even at 1 per day and 30,000 preorders, it will be decade before you get one.

 

[Ogre]

But I hear they are taking about 75 hours to build 1 Rivian. I tried to verify that but can’t find any info quantity per day. But even at 1 per day and 30,000 preorders, it will be deca before you get one.

Yep. I just mentioned a couple posts up how the top post has aged pretty poorly.

Seems entirely possible Tesla will produce more trucks in 2022 than Rivian. It’ll be a sort of tortoise and hare race with the outcome determined purely based on how quickly Tesla manages to get production online. If Tesla pulls a rabbit out of a hat and manages to start production in September 2022, they might just beat both Rivian and Ford.

I can make a few more rabbit references if you’d like, I’m hare every night ’til Tuesday.

 

[Mini2nut]

It’s all about exposing a business to financial risk. Large companies focus on this constantly.

I think it’s a smart business move by Rivian leadership to help minimize risk by slowly ramping up production and having all of the initial trucks go to employees, early investors, etc. Selling the first production run to the public with a serious defect would be devastating to Rivian.

 

[Deleted member 4261]

OK. So apparently some Rivians (at least 1 of them) are now getting delivered.





Interestingly, it seems the first Rivian truck went to the company CEO:
First Production Rivian R1T Rolls Off Assembly Line (insideevs.com)

I wonder if Elon will get the very first production model CT. He already drives the prototype.

I hope Sandy gets it, at least then the rest of us get the chance to explore it while he pulls it apart.

 

[FutureBoy]

I hope Sandy gets it, at least then the rest of us get the chance to explore it while he pulls it apart.

Which do you think will take longer? Rivian building out 1 R1T or Sandy tearing apart 1 R1T?

 

[Ogre]

It’s all about exposing a business to financial risk. Large companies focus on this constantly.

I think it’s a smart business move by Rivian leadership to help minimize risk by slowly ramping up production and having all of the initial trucks go to employees, early investors, etc. Selling the first production run to the public with a serious defect would be devastating to Rivian.

This is essentially beta production. They aren’t manufacturing, they are developing the manufacturing process. Tesla calls it building the machine that builds the machines.

At this scale, it’s not manufacturing, they are building prototypes. These are the million dollar trucks Musk talked about not wanting to produce.

 

[Deleted member 4261]

Which do you think will take longer? Rivian building out 1 R1T or Sandy tearing apart 1 R1T?

It’s late here, I was referring to the quote of Elon getting the first CT off the production line.

 

[Ogre]

Which do you think will take longer? Rivian building out 1 R1T or Sandy tearing apart 1 R1T?

Which do you think Sandy will get first, the Rivian or the Cybertruck?

How early did he order the Rivian?

 

[Quicksilver]

I can make a few more rabbit references if you’d like, I’m hare every night ’til Tuesday.

Hare today......gone tomorrow.
I'll see myself out.

 

[electricAK]

Selling the first production run to the public with a serious defect would be devastating to Rivian.

This is what would worry me about buying a Rivian now, and planning to sell it later. Look at what happened to the Chevy Bolt....they've lost all value due a major defect.

This is Rivian's first ever production vehicle and there are probably going to be issues. The truck looks amazing, but the price is steep and I just don't think they are going to age well. Partly due to the hub motors, and partly due to Rivian's lack of infrastructure/experience. They plan to build 3500 charging stations in the next few years...but if they get caught up in production hell that network may be delayed. Lots of unknowns with this company. They still have a steep road ahead and they will be competing with Tesla.

 

[Mini2nut]

The R1T doesn't use hub motors.

 

[Ogre]

…but if they get caught up in production hell that network may be delayed. Lots of unknowns with this company. They still have a steep road ahead and they will be competing with Tesla.

At 1 truck/ day, they are already in production gosh-darn-it. Another couple weeks and they will be knee deep in production heck. If they can’t get a couple hundred/ week out by end of the year they will be well and truly in production hell.

 

[rr6013]

This is what would worry me about buying a Rivian now, and planning to sell it later. Look at what happened to the Chevy Bolt....they've lost all value due a major defect.

This is Rivian's first ever production vehicle and there are probably going to be issues. The truck looks amazing, but the price is steep and I just don't think they are going to age well. Partly due to the hub motors, and partly due to Rivian's lack of infrastructure/experience. They plan to build 3500 charging stations in the next few years...but if they get caught up in production hell that network may be delayed. Lots of unknowns with this company. They still have a steep road ahead and they will be competing with Tesla.

Rivian R1T’s have already traversed road you’ll never - from Ushuaia AR tip of Tierra del Fuego to AK via Pan Americana Carreta. R1T shakedown cruise should be well and truly over for the Gremlins and bugs.
First editions typically have attention to detail and extras later omitted as production expertise streamlines assembly. I’ve enjoyed more than one first edition whose goodies were gone the next model year.
Would I jump on a first edition? You bet’cha!
Will R1T age well? Absolutely! $7/gal. gasoline is already being pumped in California desert, $5/gal. gas for cityslickers. Rats jumping ship won’t hold a candle to the mass exodus out of big SUV’s. You hate your EV? A wannabe EV owner is chomping at the bit for yours used AND he’ll pay more than you bought new!
I’m Tesla buyer. Tesla is unmatched in reputation, quality, efficiency and resale. Cybertruck is the closest match to longterm requirements.

 

[electricAK]

The R1T doesn't use hub motors.

You're right. I was confusing Rivian with Lordstown I think. Rivian is apparently using four in board motors with a drive shaft to each wheel.

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