“Crawl Control” for the Cybertruck?

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I love the enthusiasm here, but most of the proposed ideas are DOA. There's no way that Mr. "Input is Error" will give you sophisticated controls.

I like "Puppy Mode" tho

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At most, Cybertruck will FOB PUREvision for “Follow Me” mode. Tesla will not surrender to iPhone walking a Cybertruck, ‘cuz optics. And FOB Follow Me sure makes going thru locked gates a piece of cake, feeding hay to critters in winter and beats walking back after dropping a tractor off at the neighbors’ cross the road.
That would be famtastic but solves a different problem. I’m thinking about rock crawling and getting out to make sure your tires are pointing exactly right to get over a feature without getting high centered or losing a tire in a hole.

Follow mode would be awesome.

I heard recently talk about FSD navigating to GOS coordinates even if they are off map. This would be amazing too.
 

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That would be famtastic but solves a different problem. I’m thinking about rock crawling and getting out to make sure your tires are pointing exactly right to get over a feature without getting high centered or losing a tire in a hole.

Follow mode would be awesome.

I heard recently talk about FSD navigating to GOS coordinates even if they are off map. This would be amazing too.
Why not approach obstacle negotiation using PUREvision? Its technology on-board free, as in free beer. Actually, you bought it for just such a party!

Add underside peekaboo view cams, let Tesla do its magic inside the cockpit; the monitor projects route, labels obstacles and Tesla Safety First avoids putting its customers down in-front of the vehicle, placing driver and vehicle both at-risk.

This is the kind of .rev candidate to further Cybertrucks’ lead where the competition can’t keep up.
 

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I love the enthusiasm here, but most of the proposed ideas are DOA. There's no way that Mr. "Input is Error" will give you sophisticated controls.

I like "Puppy Mode" tho

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Does puppy mode turn on the cabin monitor cam and let you speak to your puppy.
 

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heard recently talk about FSD navigating to GOS coordinates even if they are off map. This would be amazing too.
GOS? Civilian? Like drone?

It‘s inevitable, by extension for .mil. Once Tesla achieves FSD, it has .mil knocking at its door, saving the necessity of putting men and women in harms way driving supply trucks in-convoy.

That’s Tesla scale economies, it can meet.
 


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GOS? Civilian? Like drone?

It‘s inevitable, by extension for .mil. Once Tesla achieves FSD, it has .mil knocking at its door, saving the necessity of putting men and women in harms way driving supply trucks in-convoy.

That’s Tesla scale economies, it can meet.
Shhh. Don't say that too loud. There aren't enough batteries to go around if the defense production act takes all they like off the top.

Let Tesla continue to be "snubbed" by the administration and let only those automakers that were bailed out by the government divert their production to the government. Allow Tesla to remain civilian focused.
 
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Why not approach obstacle negotiation using PUREvision? Its technology on-board free, as in free beer. Actually, you bought it for just such a party!

Add underside peekaboo view cams, let Tesla do its magic inside the cockpit; the monitor projects route, labels obstacles and Tesla Safety First avoids putting its customers down in-front of the vehicle, placing driver and vehicle both at-risk.

This is the kind of .rev candidate to further Cybertrucks’ lead where the competition can’t keep up.
Is it possible to integrate "underside peekaboo view cams" into the vehicle control system? Adding new views to PUREvision likely requires an extensive reworking of the entire navigation stack. It is a very big job compared to just piping steering brake and throttle values into the existing system.

Adding wheelwell cams would be marginally helpful to rock crawling, but it fails to capture the "big picture" of the situation which you get from a walkaround "outside in" view. You might get a sufficient big picture view by combining other "inside out" views with the wheelwell cams, but we would need to see that product to judge its success. I don't think it would be of sufficient interest to the general public to pay for integration of 4 more cams into PUREvision. It makes more sense as an add on Tesla or aftermarket option that just adds a 4 wheel view to the display screen.

Tesla's navigation magic is not oriented toward the very small but very consequential movements that make rock crawling possible. Autonomous rock crawling is a completely different problem than driving on highways. That work has not yet been undertaken by Tesla as far as I know. It has been undertaken by several other entities, but as it has military interest, NDAs, government grants, and export restrictions may interfere with open efforts.
 
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Export restrictions are attached to dual-use technologies. SteveJobs famously redesigned his CUBE computer into a pizza box form factor. It was a remarkable pivot requiring electrical component ”squishing” to fit inside a pizza sized takeout box. Set for worldwide distribution the USA slapped a foreign export ”munitions” restriction. NeXT had engineered the power supplies so powerful, so small that in the wrong hands the computer wasn’t a threat - the power supply could discharge a briefcase munition.

Tesla technologies are not .mil restricted or subject to export controls unless it slaps one of EM’s high voltage capacitors on a Roadster.

Apologies. I failed to frame PUREvision as strictly in-camera technology. And FSD as Tesla secret sauce analyzing camera feeds, stitching pano’s, labeling and AR plotting a “yellow brick road” for driver manual steer inputs. A kinda drive-x-monitor follow the yellow dots analog system AR by FSD.

I’m 100% onboard for wet ware in the control loop. When Tesla teaches otherwise, then I’ll be 100% autonomous “all human input is error”. Everything I envision starts with human ends with human. Thus the peekaboo camera shifts FSD AI chips(2) from road to off road when crawl mode is engaged. CRAWL mode providing slo-throttle modulation, Suspension 16”Lock(SUSLOCK), STEER bias’ 60/40 adjust from front to rear wheels integrated with steering inputs, BALANCE fine tune power distribution front to rear, MAP selector for motor Torque profiles, REGEN motor braking strength = YOKE thumb button manual engage and scroll wheel adjust.

Integrate that package into a “crawl mode” with peekaboo cams undercarriage and Cybertruck has something for it offroad community cohort.

Cybertruck learns to crawl with humans behind the wheel THEN autonomy can innovate some ”no hands” love potion #9. That’s what I had intended to communicate with PUREvision cams underside.

Beyond hard scrabble mountain trail, I agree boulder fields need eyes-on outside but Tesla will never substitute for a SPOTTER for LoneDangers running solo.
 

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Shhh. Don't say that too loud. There aren't enough batteries to go around if the defense production act takes all they like off the top.
But what about deep pockets to make battery terafactories duplicating Giga Austin?

-Crissa
 

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But what about deep pockets to make battery terafactories duplicating Giga Austin?

-Crissa
Deep pockets can only accelerate development so fast. There are hard limits like the number of people and equipment which can physically occupy a space at one time.
Mining, refining, transportation of raw materials, production of finished batteries have to be done serially, in that order and each takes time. Building the production lines is being done in parallel with stepping up material deliveries. Until Austin is fully online and demonstrating a successful mass production method free of scaling issues, there is nothing to copy.

I'm sure new real estate is being sought for terafactories. How appropriate would it be for them to be collocated with the mining/refining concern to save on transport. Terra = earth, Tera = trillion scale.
The worlds deepest pockets are already engaged on this problem. This is what full speed ahead looks like.
 


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I want full digital remote for rock crawling. So I can get out and see exactly where things are and make fine controls while outside of the vehicle and can see the hazards I’m going over.
The remote would be nice to let my wife or son think they are driving. I guarantee they will never ask to drive again.
 

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The worlds deepest pockets are already engaged on this problem. This is what full speed ahead looks like.
There are more than a few deep pockets not involved. The US government is barely stretching its legs when it comes to batteries.

-Crissa
 

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GOS? Civilian? Like drone?

It‘s inevitable, by extension for .mil. Once Tesla achieves FSD, it has .mil knocking at its door, saving the necessity of putting men and women in harms way driving supply trucks in-convoy.

That’s Tesla scale economies, it can meet.
Been mostly posting via phone lately so sometimes finer details get lost. GPS.
 

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Is it possible to integrate "underside peekaboo view cams" into the vehicle control system? Adding new views to PUREvision likely requires an extensive reworking of the entire navigation stack. It is a very big job compared to just piping steering brake and throttle values into the existing system.

Adding wheelwell cams would be marginally helpful to rock crawling, but it fails to capture the "big picture" of the situation which you get from a walkaround "outside in" view. You might get a sufficient big picture view by combining other "inside out" views with the wheelwell cams, but we would need to see that product to judge its success. I don't think it would be of sufficient interest to the general public to pay for integration of 4 more cams into PUREvision. It makes more sense as an add on Tesla or aftermarket option that just adds a 4 wheel view to the display screen.

Tesla's navigation magic is not oriented toward the very small but very consequential movements that make rock crawling possible. Autonomous rock crawling is a completely different problem than driving on highways. That work has not yet been undertaken by Tesla as far as I know. It has been undertaken by several other entities, but as it has military interest, NDAs, government grants, and export restrictions may interfere with open efforts.
There might be a viable compromise. As it is, Tesla is using the cameras to measure very accurately where everything around it is. And it has trained the NN to have object permanence so that things like pedestrians that walk behind a bus can be expected to re-appear again at some point from the other side of the bus.

So, as the truck is rock crawling, it could theoretically keep track of all the rocks/dips/hazard locations and show them on the screen for you even if there were no underside cameras. Tesla vehicles are very precise about their surroundings already. But the CT is getting the upgraded hardware which will be quite a bit more powerful. So to some extent, it just becomes a computation detail. It may not be perfect, and if a rock/log/etc shifts, it may not stay accurate. But generally you might be able to get a pretty accurate view.
 

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When talking about FSD, I'm hearing these words more and more :

Magic, Deciding
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