350 mile range Quad Motor rumored to be 1st trim launched

[Mini2nut]

My hunch is that Tesla engineers found diminishing returns adding a 4th motor and they stuck with the original Tri Motor setup. No other Tesla vehicle in their portfolio has 4 motors, not even the Semi.

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[HaulingAss]

If Tesla "must assert their dominance" via motor count, then shouldn't they have five motors since no one else has five?

Yippeee! That means Cybertruck will have a fully powered spare tire!

 

[Cyberostachu]

I'm actually not really up on that. Tesla has historically used all or nearly all of its battery pack, whereas its competitors seem to keep more of it in reserve.
I believe that is because Tesla's robust batteries can be worked hard and do not deteriorate (much?) if used to the last electron, while other OEMs provide a cushion because they anticipate reduced battery life and performance if they use the entire battery. So, when you run a Taycan out of range, there is still, say, 10kWh of the battery that you cannot use that has not discharged.
This all got a lot fuzzier when the Model 3/Y came out, because rather than expressly calling out a 65kWh, 85kWh battery size, they just went to Short Range and Long Range, and then they added different battery chemistries. So, you'd buy a "265 mile range" car, not a car with a specific battery size. Hard to know if the full battery was being used if you don't even know what the full battery size is.
Recently there has been a lot of debate about Tesla's EPA range claims. Some have theorized that Tesla's range shown in the UI is less than the EPA range so that you have an "emergency reserve" if you try to stretch your Tesla past "0 Miles Remaining". So in that case, is it unused battery or "off menu secret reserve battery capacity?"
But bottom line is, I do not know if or at what % Tesla keeps part of its batteries in reserve. (Note that I am neither a chemist nor an engineer, so this was all more of a layman's interpretation of what I hear and read).

I've always been anxious about my range. In my prior texts, I mentioned I talked to the service managers a few times in my area and I gave up. I even demanded to see if my battery is a mistake but they showed me 72 kwh pack. As I mentioned also, I could only get 3.5 mi per kwh. If you multiply 3.5 72 = 252. In order to attain 330 mi range, you should get 4.5+ mi per kwh ro get 330 mi and that's impossible. I wonder if I drove 30 mph in a 75 mph speed limit if I'd get that. Surely I won't do it. I get annoyed when some people say they got even 350 mi for their model 3 because it's just a dream/nightmare for mine. I wonder if their roads are as flat as a glass table top, driving 25 mph, no AC, no wind factor. It's like a miracle compared to mine. Maybe I should sell this car before I'll reside in a mental asylum. Now, I really love the CT but then I became skeptical if I'm getting the same deal for the range - my luck.
Just unloading my frustration. As I mentioned before I drive 90 miles to the big city near me. After 3 or 4 stops around the city, I'm so anxious if I could get home okay and that's less than 200 miles round trip.

 

[Baldey]

Just unloading my frustration. As I mentioned before I drive 90 miles to the big city near me. After 3 or 4 stops around the city, I'm so anxious if I could get home okay and that's less than 200 miles round trip.

Get the Plugshare app, and check your stomping grounds for level 2 chargers nearby. I was gonna say i've always had places to charge at work, but maybe that's just my industry and i also noticed you are retired.. But you'd be surprised at how many non-tesla chargers there are! I'd bet you could sip an hour or two inbetween these stops to ease your anxiety by 30-60 miles..

My SR M3 gets 220mi on a full charge, and i drive 55mi round trip to work + a few miles for food. but i leave at 4am when there is no traffic, and average over 100 mph on a good day. So my efficiency is below 50% in the mornings (and ~90% sitting in traffic averaging 30-40 at 2pm), i charge for 100mi every day at the office over 4hrs for free

 

[Cyberostachu]

Get the Plugshare app, and check your stomping grounds for level 2 chargers nearby. I was gonna say i've always had places to charge at work, but maybe that's just my industry and i also noticed you are retired.. But you'd be surprised at how many non-tesla chargers there are! I'd bet you could sip an hour or two inbetween these stops to ease your anxiety by 30-60 miles..

My SR M3 gets 220mi on a full charge, and i drive 55mi round trip to work + a few miles for food. but i leave at 4am when there is no traffic, and average over 100 mph on a good day. So my efficiency is below 50% in the mornings (and ~90% sitting in traffic averaging 30-40 at 2pm), i charge for 100mi every day at the office over 4hrs for free

I am retired and although I have time to supercharge first before going back home, it takes more time to supercharge instead of just going straight home when my business is done. I have a charger at home. What bothers me is ideally, since my m3 is rated 330 miles fully charged, there's no business for me adding charge when I'm only driving 200 miles round trip. And, I tried not to sudden accelerate but I cannot avoid driving 80 mph because other cars are flying 85 to 90 miles an hour. I want to at least keep up with allowable speed limit.
I'm sure other guys are tired of reading about my complaint but I am too. Hoping one of the readers could give me the perfect advice I can apply in my future CT.

 

[Crissa]

Wow, that is a humongous difference, I had no idea it was that great.

Motorcycles are not very aerodynamic ^-^;

If you’re trying to get somewhere in a reasonable amount of time that’s not a very realistic option.

No, it's dumb not to take advantage of being fully charged in the morning when you take off. Or getting fully charged when you stop to eat or do an activity you were going to do anyhow. That's why the Rivian network is dropping Level 2s at trail heads.

Because then you literally used zero time to charge!

...and average over 100 mph on a good day.

Average? Over? What's your peak speed? O-o Autobahn?

-Crissa

 

[Crissa]

Some have theorized that Tesla's range shown in the UI is less than the EPA range so that you have an "emergency reserve" if you try to stretch your Tesla past "0 Miles Remaining". So in that case, is it unused battery or "off menu secret reserve battery capacity?"
But bottom line is, I do not know if or at what % Tesla keeps part of its batteries in reserve. (Note that I am neither a chemist nor an engineer, so this was all more of a layman's interpretation of what I hear and read).

Back when Tesla had a PR department, they reached out to some guys testing range - I don't remember which magazine they were doing it for, something not fly-by-night to tell them that 0% is just 0% so that users never run out of energy before reaching 0, that there's still some afterwards. So they re-ran the tests, running the Tesla until it went to 0 and got basically the same as the EPA.

Because that's how the EPA designs the efficiency rules. Not until the gas gauge says zero. Until the vehicle stops running.

So when compared that way, Tesla consistently comes out in the top if you use those rules.

-Crissa

 

[Kaz109]

If it doesn’t have 500mi range then I’ll just keep my Raptor . They was the selling point for my reservation back in Nov 2019

 

[Crissa]

No other Tesla vehicle in their portfolio has 4 motors, not even the Semi.

...No other Tesla vehicle is aimed at a offroad market, or has additive (vs friction) traction control except for launch. The rock-climbing or offroad surfaces having the pair up front can do things that a single one can't do.

Will that little addition be important enough? Well, numbers sell products, not practical performance.

-Crissa

 

[TBONO]

Motorcycles are not very aerodynamic ^-^;


No, it's dumb not to take advantage of being fully charged in the morning when you take off. Or getting fully charged when you stop to eat or do an activity you were going to do anyhow. That's why the Rivian network is dropping Level 2s at trail heads.

Because then you literally used zero time to charge!


Average? Over? What's your peak speed? O-o Autobahn?

-Crissa

It sounds like you’ve not spent any time doing commuting, or road tripping of any distance in an Tesla or electric car. You make it sound like they’re super chargers and level twos just around everywhere you want them — doesn’t work that way

 

[Baldey]

Average? Over? What's your peak speed? O-o Autobahn?

-Crissa

127, that was my record. just a deserted 8 lane highway I've passed a few cops since then and have slowed down a little lol, but i still don't really check my speed unless i'm behind someone or going over 100.

getting a high average is easy since i live and work right off the highway, and its a straight 22 miles on the biggest one through Denver.

 

[Crissa]

It sounds like you’ve not spent any time doing commuting, or road tripping of any distance in an Tesla or electric car. You make it sound like they’re super chargers and level twos just around everywhere you want them — doesn’t work that way

It sounds like you haven't bothered to search the map.

We need more, not just one or two in a town center but a dozen. So many it doesn't matter if some are ICEd.

But they are practically everywhere, and it's stupid not to use them to skip a Supercharger stop.

-Crissa

 

[Baldey]

Average? Over? What's your peak speed? O-o Autobahn?

-Crissa

Can you tell where i passed the cop?

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