Appeal for FSD transfer? Anyone press this hard @ delivery?

[wheatbread]

Probably more so than you are to be honest, but yes. I'd like to hear you elaborate.

I see you mentioned using grok to another user earlier, heed your own advice and get caught up.

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[EXPTREVER]

yeah, I'm not reading all of that since every single one of those cases are materially different. you seem to think Tesla should have open, unlimited access incentive programs that bend to your personal will.

I'm just pointing out that that is indeed not "bad customer service". You are being manipulative.

furthermore, you are making a great point of why Tesla has said over the years that they will eventually stop private selling to individuals. You are the individual in mind.

no, it's not. let's not start off with a false premise. Tesla offers incentives, and they have no moral or business duty to run them indefinitely nor are they obligated to bend the rules of the program for individuals.

@engeler1 Unfortunately I don't think there is anything you can do but I 100% agree with you it's horrendous customer service. I totally understand that tesla can get rid of all incentives whenever they want and I have no problem with that. But the issue is they offer an incentive which makes you pull the trigger on purchasing one of their vehicles, but then they don't deliver the vehicle in a timely manner for a host of different reasons and instead of honoring the deal they subject you to the current incentives if any at delivery. Personally I think they should lock in the incentives for an agreed upon amount of time so you have time to take delivery. Or make it very clear up front when the incentive is going to expire so you can decide on taking delivery of a vehicle currently available or risk it with a new one. Not sure where the hostility towards you is coming from with these other people.

 

[REM]

I see you mentioned using grok to another user earlier, heed your own advice and get caught up.

to the mute list, you go

 

[wheatbread]

to the mute list, you go

Must’ve struck a nerve

 

[REM]

@engeler1 Unfortunately I don't think there is anything you can do but I 100% agree with you it's horrendous customer service. I totally understand that tesla can get rid of all incentives whenever they want and I have no problem with that. But the issue is they offer an incentive which makes you pull the trigger on purchasing one of their vehicles, but then they don't deliver the vehicle in a timely manner for a host of different reasons and instead of honoring the deal they subject you to the current incentives if any at delivery. Personally I think they should lock in the incentives for an agreed upon amount of time so you have time to take delivery. Or make it very clear up front when the incentive is going to expire so you can decide on taking delivery of a vehicle currently available or risk it with a new one. Not sure where the hostility towards you is coming from with these other people.

Why? so that Tesla can get sued again by militant shareholders? because this would mean they are beholden to the customers deciding when incentive programs should end.

The bottom line is that people seem to think Tesla actually owes them favors lmao. absurd. If the incentive they wanted wasn't available at the time the MPA came around, they could have easily just said no thanks I'll just choose to not purchase at this time.

These are the same type of people who walk into restaurants with a chip on their shoulder and treat the staff there like they are personal slaves.

 

[wheatbread]

@engeler1 Unfortunately I don't think there is anything you can do but I 100% agree with you it's horrendous customer service. I totally understand that tesla can get rid of all incentives whenever they want and I have no problem with that. But the issue is they offer an incentive which makes you pull the trigger on purchasing one of their vehicles, but then they don't deliver the vehicle in a timely manner for a host of different reasons and instead of honoring the deal they subject you to the current incentives if any at delivery. Personally I think they should lock in the incentives for an agreed upon amount of time so you have time to take delivery. Or make it very clear up front when the incentive is going to expire so you can decide on taking delivery of a vehicle currently available or risk it with a new one. Not sure where the hostility towards you is coming from with these other people.

Guy compares a trillion dollar company to a min wage waiter. Thats not brand loyalty, thats brand worshipping.

 

[EXPTREVER]

Guy compares a trillion dollar company to a min wage waiter. Thats not brand loyalty, thats brand worshipping.

Yea I’m unsure of his irritation toward the customers here. I don’t think we are saying Tesla shouldn’t remove incentives or even that they don’t have the right to remove it without notice. I think what’s being said here is it would be a better experience as a customer if Tesla Provided end dates for some of their incentive programs. Similar to when they said FSD transfer was ending and you had to take delivery by March 31st. This actually made me change my order and get one that was available immediately but I had to drive 7 hours to get it. But at least I was given that opportunity. Sometimes they remove incentives with no warning and that’s the part that’s bad customer service in my opinion.

 

[Mini2nut]

With a backlog of CT orders well into 2027 Tesla has zero incentive to offer FSD transfers.

The truck is undergoing a resurgence in popularity thanks to the $59 peasant trim. Factoring in inflation it's roughly $5k less expensive than the $49,900 Dual Motor price revealed in late 2019.

 

[carsly]

While I agree with the OP that Tesla should honor the terms in force at the time the agreement was signed, a reservation is not an order and an order is not a purchase.

The only one of the three that matters is the last one, the purchase agreement. If terms improved in your favor from the time you placed a reservation would you still honor the original terms on principle? Even when it costs you more money?

no, of course you wouldn't. You'd push to get the terms amended to what's current or cancel the old order and place a new order at the new terms. So why hold Tesla to a different standard that one you'd hold yourself to?

 

[carsly]

With a backlog of CT orders well into 2027 Tesla has zero incentive to offer FSD transfers.

The truck is undergoing a resurgence in popularity thanks to the $59 peasant trim. Factoring in inflation it's roughly $5k less expensive than the $49,900 Dual Motor price revealed in late 2019.

and that trim should likely go up to $74k next year from $69k currently due to continued inflation. Everyone took price stability for granted - until both parties started running up record deficits (effectively printing dollars that were not backed by a commensurate growth in GDP) which fueled inflation. The only rational path is bringing Federal and State spending back in line - no deficits - and start paying down the debt.

 

[Mini2nut]

Agreed. We will be hitting $40T soon.

 

[Pops]

The only rational path is bringing Federal and State spending back in line - no deficits - and start paying down the debt.

That isnt going to happen. The only way out of this debt hole is reducing spending AND huge growth at the same time.

Hopefully AI and Robotics completely upend the capitalist market and are the harbinger of some new form of socialist market. Thats what a lot of people are predicting, including Elon. I doubt anyone over 30 years old will see it happen.

 

[Outdoors]

Well the last move was as many have said. A long line of moves that are less than stellar from a customer service perspective. Goodwill is earned and spent by companies. Some use more than others. Some take that goodwill for granted.

Yet they are customer service moves. Legal protects all those statements via terms & conditions. That is just the way it is. A calculation of spending of goodwill. Very simple. Yet it isn't always. In good times it is easy as to spend it. Or someone wakes up from a Ketamine trip then the fun goes away.

 

[REM]

Agreed. We will be hitting $40T soon.

I hope everyone knows the 'powers that be' are coordinating a controlled detonation of ALL fiat currencies in favor of ushering in CBDCs along with social credit scores.

prepare accordingly.

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