Be careful selling your Cybertruck! Tesla found sale listings, cancelled my other reservations and I may be blacklisted

[SlegMD]

I like Teslas style…. They just changed the locks and tossed the shit in the driveway. Hahaha. Not a word. Power move. My style.

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[malinecentral]

i think he meant SuperCharge not Service Center ..

Tesla has routinely removed supercharging privileges from cars in the past

Either way. All very interesting. We’ll see. They did say I was welcome for service. I have 2 other Teslas.

 

[cgladue]

Either way. All very interesting. We’ll see. They did say I was welcome for service. I have 2 other Teslas.

i agree i dont think they can refuse you the right to fix your vehicle. especially if you live in a state that has Right to Repair (obviously). but they can deny you supercharging, and to ever sell you a car or merchandise again in the future. if they dont enforce it then its basically condoning it.

 

[CTInProcess]

I am not saying you are wrong but it would be interesting if Tesla decided they wouldn’t service an in warranty vehicle because I was banned. I think the government would step in at that point.

Tesla can ban you from their Supercharger Network.

You are welcome to use EA however….


At the time of banning Supercharging and fast charging from salvage-titled vehicles, Tesla asserted it was doing so for safety purposes.

“Tesla reserves the right to deactivate Supercharging capability on any vehicle we believe would be unsafe,” it said. “If a vehicle is found to have been modified to enable Supercharging and/or fast-charging through third parties, Tesla may take legal action and seek compensation.”

Of course, they can always come up with something else.

 

[Gigahorse]

I like Teslas style…. They just changed the locks and tossed the shit in the driveway. Hahaha. Not a word. Power move. My style.

Just wish they would do it to the people moving a large volume of trucks, resellers and auction hoses selling 4-5 a day with no issue it seems.

 

[Outdoors]

Illegal does not only mean criminal, contract law is still law.

Nah I think ya wrong. See ya later.

 

[HaulingAss]

I guess you go to legacy dealers for your future vehicles, some around here think that’s worse than death….

Well that's being a bit hyperbolic, don't you think?

I've lost any desire to own/drive ICE vehicles so my only option would be to pick an EV from the second tier EV makers like Kia, Volvo, Porsche, Ford, VW, etc. Not a very happy thought.

The dealership experience is only part of the problem. I hate crappy software and demand good driving dynamics. An F-150 Lightning would be a serious downer compared to the Cybertruck. Not as bad as death, but I want to have maximum enjoyment while I'm alive.

 

[HaulingAss]

Wait. I thought Tesla wouldn't do anything. All the internet lawyers say it is nothing to worry about.
You took delivery, then sold?

They caught him advertising it before he took delivery. So that doesn't even involve their lawyer's time, they just say "nope" and it's a done deal.

Probably all the Internet lawyers will make up a silly legal interpretation that it's somehow restraint of free trade or something equally ridiculous.

To those people I say, "Go ahead, try to sue Tesla for restraint of free trade when they toss your Cybertruck Reservations in the circular file! Be sure to let us know how that works out for ya'!

 

[Outdoors]

They caught him advertising it before he took delivery. So that doesn't even involve their lawyer's time, they just say "nope" and it's a done deal.

Probably all the Internet lawyers will make up a silly legal interpretation that it's somehow restraint of free trade or something equally ridiculous.

To those people I say, "Go ahead, try to sue Tesla for restraint of free trade when they toss your Cybertruck Reservations in the circular file! Be sure to let us know how that works out for ya'!

No took delivery. Hasn't sold yet. They caught his post is the way I read it. "Haven't sold yet"

If I haven't bought something would I say I haven't sold it yet? Also said cancel of other reservations. A reseller?

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...ut-there-tesla-found-me-out.13196/post-260330

 

[malinecentral]

No took delivery. Hasn't sold yet. They caught his post is the way I read it.

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...ut-there-tesla-found-me-out.13196/post-260330

Correct. Took delivery. Had two more reservations. They cancelled those and refunded. Said if I ever try to place an order again it will not be refunded.

I have not sold anything. I listed it on multiple sites to feel it out.

 

[malinecentral]

So you took delivery of one Cybertruck and listed it. Then Tesla LP reached out letting you know they canceled your other reservations?
Did you list it with the full VIN number, and what platform did you list it on?

Surprised to hear they are doing anything after so many went to auctions without a blip.

Also asking price if you don't mind sharing?

I think they got me on CarGurus but who knows. Yes, VIN was listed. I listed it for a ridiculous number because I thought it was funny. $242,069.

 

[JBee]

Correct. Took delivery. Had two more reservations. They cancelled those and refunded. Said if I ever try to place an order again it will not be refunded.

I have not sold anything. I listed it on multiple sites to feel it out.

So essentially nothing has happened except that they have cancelled your other CT pre-orders, and you still have your Cybertruck?

Seems fair enough, but did you give them a reason why you are selling, or did you just want to know how much you can get for it? Listing the VIN was your downfall as that connected the dots.

There's more than one reason to ask for a sale: did you get the opportunity to test drive the vehicle and see if it met your expectations and needs? Is it faulty or deficient in any way? Does it fit in your garage and you can't park it on the street, do the seats hurt your back (Teslas fixed headrests are annoying for me at 6'6), is it too small to fit your miniature pony etc etc. Or have your circumstances changed, did your wife leave with your kids because she thinks its just too ugly?

This might not be enough justification by Teslas internal standards, but because they never specifically stipulated what's justified in the clause, nearly anything could be used as a reason, and should make them honour their promise to purchase it back, or let you resell it.

If they don't make an offer to purchase it back, then they should let you sell it, although apparently even this is not clear either in the clause. At a minimum they would have to justify why not and if they do actually make an offer you can still say no, and even tell them that it is clearly under market value.

The point is, maybe it would be a good idea to request to resell from them anyway, because it doesn't perform as expected, or change of circumstances etc, so you have that on record as well whatever potentially comes next.

BTW That you posted it for sale is not the same thing as actually selling it, seeing you still have it. Anyone can put up an add if they have a vehicle for sale, but that of itself doesn't obligate them to actually sell and transfer it. So technically I doubt they would be desperate enough to take it any further, because they would have to prove damage in some way.

What should be concerning here though is that a diligent little worker bee is actually doing background checks of what customers are trying to resell them. So simply, if you want avoid the hassle, at least ask them first if you do put it up for sale.

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Now before anyone shoots me down for "helping a flipper", from my position I can't tell what the OPs position is, hence the questions. But at the same time I think it's important to see if both sides are acting reasonable, and if Tesla really believes this clause is in the right and to their advantage in any way, and what it thinks the rights of a buyer are at all.

But to be clear this situation does not YET have anything to do with the resell clause, rather its Tesla just enacting its right to cancel further orders as it outlined it would in the pre-order conditions already. If they refunded the money I don't know how you would go about correcting that, and either way that would be a tough ask for a low reward.

 

[malinecentral]

So essentially nothing has happened except that they have cancelled your other CT pre-orders, and you still have your Cybertruck?

Based on the wording I may be blacklisted. It’s unclear to me if that is for a new CT only or any Tesla.

 

[jookyone]

I know a guy whose Nigerian prince neighbor messed up his CT transaction and is looking for one to buy.

 

[JBee]

Based on the wording I may be blacklisted. It’s unclear to me if that is for a new CT only or any Tesla.

Technically, this is their true power without you having much say in the matter, to
simply denying you the right to order. Well the positive bit is that the value of the Cybertruck just went up for you seeing you are now supply constrained.

But his also highlights another reason to not need the resell clause at all, seeing that nobody will be getting more than one Cybertruck at a time, it's only a once off flip if you do.

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