Brake Malfunction; hit light pole

[DIYDharma]

Weighing in here - there was another owner who took his CT up a concrete ledge and destroyed some landscaping at some fancy Hollywood hotel. Did anyone determine the root cause of that? Wondering if it was the same - the guy tried the brakes but it failed?

There was speculation about the driver/owner being intoxicated but nothing conclusive. Not sure what logs/data was sent to Tesla to analyze.

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[tcmccormick]

Weighing in here - there was another owner who took his CT up a concrete ledge and destroyed some landscaping at some fancy Hollywood hotel. Did anyone determine the root cause of that? Wondering if it was the same - the guy tried the brakes but it failed?

There was speculation about the driver/owner being intoxicated but nothing conclusive. Not sure what logs/data was sent to Tesla to analyze.

It is strange if you think about all the other new vehicles that get released from other manufactures and all the minor fender benders that those many vehicles are involved in and for the vast majority no one raises an eyebrow or posts anything about those. If any Tesla is involved in anything it's breaking news.

 

[Beyond]

It is strange if you think about all the other new vehicles that get released from other manufactures and all the minor fender benders that those many vehicles are involved in and for the vast majority no one raises an eyebrow or posts anything about those. If any Tesla is involved in anything it's breaking news.

True, media bias and clicks. All new vehicles have an extraordinary number of accidents in the first days/weeks of their lives. Owners unfamiliar with the controls, trying out all the new features, setting radio stations and media, testing performance, unfamiliarity with the way the vehicle handles, admiring the shiny new interior, etc. etc.

 

[DIYDharma]

True, media bias and clicks. All new vehicles have an extraordinary number of accidents in the first days/weeks of their lives. Owners unfamiliar with the controls, trying out all the new features, setting radio stations and media, testing performance, unfamiliarity with the way the vehicle handles, admiring the shiny new interior, etc. etc.

Agree with you guys about people not familiar with the vehicle. A friend of mine went from a Corolla to a 530i and was not aware of the mirror tilt-down feature when in reverse. He did not even know such a feature existed. He was backing while looking at the mirror and hit a fire hydrant. Was probably operator error, or the feature, or both.

I drove a Tesla for the first time last week - a 2024 Model Y. Letting go off the accelerator pedal caused regen to kick in and I just lunged forward. Kind of reminded me when I was learning how to drive a stick. This is so different from ICE. I called up Tesla to see if the regen can be reduced, and they told me this feature no longer exists in 2024 3/Y. This makes it difficult to go between ICE and the new 3/Y.

 

[BannedByTMC]

This makes it difficult to go between ICE and the new 3/Y.

I got used to it fairly quickly and don't have an issue switching between my Tacoma and my 3.

 

[Crissa]

I got used to it fairly quickly and don't have an issue switching between my Tacoma and my 3.

Yeah, when I rode an Energica - they use the same paradigm, but it's a liter-bike style motorcycle - I was pretty well attuned to it by the time I turned around to go back to the dealer.

Tho I did have to stop and fiddle with the controls before I left their parking lot. It was set too sensitive for me.

-Crissa

 

[Snlass]

Claiming that lack of regen caused him to jump the curb and hit a light pole, he is just trying to blame someone else for his bad driving, had to be going pretty damn fast to not be able to navigate a normal left turn at an intersection. Had to go across multiple lanes and up over the curb to hit that pole. No matter how great the car is it cannot overcome bad driving and the laws of physics. He was just going way to fast to make the turn, regardless of brakes regen or anything else.

 

[cbrtrckrsrvd112219]

im in love with the truck still even with this problem, im down for them to give me a new truck.

so was it right turn or left turn?
what direction did light pole was running on intersection?
I guess diagram would help to remove confusion

 

[kingq]

Many times, esp. for drivers so used to traditional non-ev cars, it's a human error. You might have thought you pressed the brake, but it's actually the accelerator pedal. Releasing the accel pedal slows down the vehicle, which makes you think it's the brake pedal by your brain with the cars you've driven so many years.

I think Tesla data would show that you stepped on the wrong pedal, or you had your auto-pilot on. The auto-pilot doesn't work very well at stop signs, signal lights, or making turns.

 

[kdn]

A diagram would help explain why the light pole was on the opposite side of the truck that was hit. But ya speed probably has a lot to do with it. Speed is the cause of most accidents/incidents

 

[tcmccormick]

I got used to it fairly quickly and don't have an issue switching between my Tacoma and my 3.

Agree. First time I drove a Tesla it was weird, but adapted very quickly and easily. I have not had any issue switching between regen and ICE. Once I got the hang of regen I much prefer and it feels strange going back.

 

[BannedByTMC]

Claiming that lack of regen caused him to jump the curb and hit a light pole, he is just trying to blame someone else for his bad driving,

Except that's not what he described:

I was driving like usual and when coming into a turn releasing the accelerator but the speed wasnt reducing... so i pressed the brake... but it didnt engage.... until it was too late and i hit a signal light pole, also airbags didnt deploy.

He didn't say the car accelerated when he hit the brake, which is what would have happened if he actually hit the accelerator. What he subsequently described was increased brake pedal effort with weak braking response, which is exactly what would happen if the power brake boost system failed. Some people are trying so hard to create some scenario where components didn't fail when the described event fits those parameters rather well. Reduced regen fails to slow the vehicle as expected then when brakes were applied the response was also not what was expected. Ever hear the saying “When you hear hoofbeats, don't look for zebras,”?

 

[FutureTruck]

Except that's not what he described:

He didn't say the car accelerated when he hit the brake, which is what would have happened if he actually hit the accelerator. What he subsequently described was increased brake pedal effort with weak braking response, which is exactly what would happen if the power brake boost system failed. Some people are trying so hard to create some scenario where components didn't fail when the described event fits those parameters rather well. Reduced regen fails to slow the vehicle as expected then when brakes were applied the response was also not what was expected. Ever hear the saying “When you hear hoofbeats, don't look for zebras,”?

Will be interesting if the original poster updates this. Assuming it was not false information posted by a Tesla short-seller it is a pretty serious issue.

 

[kpanda17]

Will be interesting if the original poster updates this. Assuming it was not false information posted by a Tesla short-seller it is a pretty serious issue.

if a short seller, actually a criminal mind attempting to manipulate the market
it'll catch up to them one day

 

[FutureTruck]

Yup, does not seem to be the case here so hope we get an update

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