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as the OP on Reddit answered, he checked behind the wheels and spotted a motor behind both axels. That's why it should be dual motor
And of course that makes it real :)
 

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Dual motor pic.
Tesla Cybertruck Dual Motor CT out there in Lonoke! IMG_2070
 

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as the OP on Reddit answered, he checked behind the wheels and spotted a motor behind both axels. That's why it should be dual motor
Aren’t there 4 axles on a Cybertruck?
 
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"On cars and trucks, several senses of the word axle occur in casual usage, referring to the shaft itself, its housing, or simply any transverse pair of wheels. Strictly speaking, a shaft that rotates with the wheel, being either bolted or splined in fixed relation to it, is called an axle or axle shaft. However, in looser usage, an entire assembly including the surrounding axle housing (typically a casting) is also called an axle.

An even broader (somewhat figurative) sense of the word refers to every pair of parallel wheels on opposite sides of a vehicle, regardless of their mechanical connection to each other and to the vehicle frame or body. Thus, transverse pairs of wheels in an independent suspension may be called an axle in some contexts. This very loose definition of "axle" is often used in assessing toll roads or vehicle taxes, and is taken as a rough proxy for the overall weight-bearing capacity of a vehicle, and its potential for causing wear or damage to roadway surfaces."

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If the toll people choose to refer to it as a 2-axle vehicle is not important to me. What is important to me is whether or not the shaft going to a wheel is sharing a motor with another wheel. On the CT I see an axle (or a shaft and CV joints) going to each wheel. Whether that shaft is driven by its own motor or to a shared motor is the question. I am assuming that in a tri-motor trim there will be 2 axle/shafts going to one gearbox and one motor, at one end, and two axle/shafts going to 2 gearboxes and 2 motors at the other end. You clearly have another way of looking at it and that is fine.
 

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I find it's easier to call them what they are: "driveshafts".
That's what you call them on independent suspension setups like the Teslas have, and CT.
There are no "axles" on a non-driven independent suspension, but as Cybergus pointed out, some people call a whole independent suspension assembly an "axle".

An axle can be driven and not driven, whereas a driveshaft is only driven. It's in the name.

The other variation to bring in here is if CT has longitudinally mounted dual motor assemblies on each end instead of transverse mounted motors. That would be good for larger suspension setups like the CT, as it will give them more room for longer wishbones, which in turn gives them more travel, and more height adjustable range. (it's all about keeping the CV joint angle low)

If so even someone familiar with the already available motor assemblies could easily mistake a dual motor setup as a single motor, because they are only looking at one side of the assembly, say behind the axle line, whilst there is another motor hidden in front of it.
 

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Went through crash and this was all the damage? (Photo taken from the Reddit thread)

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So many people are going to start getting scratches on the stainless and crying online about it.
 


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I find it's easier to call them what they are: "driveshafts".
That's what you call them on independent suspension setups like the Teslas have, and CT.
There are no "axles" on a non-driven independent suspension, but as Cybergus pointed out, some people call a whole independent suspension assembly an "axle".

An axle can be driven and not driven, whereas a driveshaft is only driven. It's in the name.

The other variation to bring in here is if CT has longitudinally mounted dual motor assemblies on each end instead of transverse mounted motors. That would be good for larger suspension setups like the CT, as it will give them more room for longer wishbones, which in turn gives them more travel, and more height adjustable range. (it's all about keeping the CV joint angle low)

If so even someone familiar with the already available motor assemblies could easily mistake a dual motor setup as a single motor, because they are only looking at one side of the assembly, say behind the axle line, whilst there is another motor hidden in front of it.
And for 95% of people they will look at the drive assembly and not be able to correctly label any of the parts- see first image. The main visual difference for the dual motor axle seems to be the symmetry as seen in the second image vs the single motor axle- 3rd image. There is a post on here with a person saying they can tell that one of the crash test models was a single motor, but there is no way you can tell with how covered up the undercarriage and wheel wells are.

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I'm guessing the covered hubcaps are tri-motor and the smaller wheels are the dual motor.
 

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Pop quiz: how many motors in this Tesla drivetrain?

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What about this one?

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...or this one?

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I think it's fairly obvious from the photos, but a casual inspection of a covered underside may not be determinative.

If the front wheels have driveshafts then there's obviously at least 2 motors, but it may be difficult to tell if an axle has 1 motor or two.
Each or your photos show only one motor each. The top is the rear cradle of what could be the early single motor Model S. No way to tell if the front end had another motor or not. What some may see as a second motor, is the inverter for that motor (left side of the photo, right side of the vehicle).

The Plaid rear cradle looks somewhat similar, but the inverters are each attached to the front of the motor housings. At a glance they look a bit like the early rear drivetrain, but instead of the motor on the left and inverter on the right, both are motor housings and each have their own gearbox mated together (but separate) between. The driveshafts will emerge from near the center of the vehicle on both the tri-motor and dual motor CybetTrucks. With aero underpanels installed, it may be very hard to tell a dual from a tri.
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