Cybertruck Highway Range Test (Dual-Motor AWD) -- Run Until Battery Empty (by Out Of Spec)

[Bartman]

It would be much more helpful if Tesla provided the EPA range estimate as well as a more real world estimate (could also just be labeled cold/hard range) since many lay people assume that they will get the full EPA range, when they won't.

The euro cycle test seems to provide range numbers that are a lot more realistic.

My personal opinion is that EPA range test in the US is designed to make EVs look better than they are in real world driving to push faster adoption by consumers.

However, I'm already on my 2nd Tesla so I've just learned to live with it.

Realistically the sweet spot is going to be when an EV truck like the CT can deliver 500 miles of claimed EPA range on a full charge because that means that in the 2nd or 3rd year of owning the vehicle, the owner can actually get a couple of hundred highway miles when towing a trailer.... or for the many truck owners who do regularly take their trucks longer distances and don't want to be hassled with stopping for an hour long charging session, if that's even an option.

Charging once every three hours won't be a big deal for some people but it will be a very big deal for others.

Good news is you can easily put a gas or diesel generator in the vault and you'll never be totally stranded.

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[HaulingAss]

My personal opinion is that EPA range test in the US is designed to make EVs look better than they are in real world driving to push faster adoption by consumers.

Take off the tin-foil hat. The EPA numbers for gas cars are not realistic either, particularly if there are cross-winds, low temperatures and higher speeds involved.

But we have three Tesla Model 3's with a combined mileage of 200,000 real-world miles, that all have lifetime efficiency numbers better than their EPA ratings.

It's important to understand that no testing proceedure can accurately reflect everyone's actual consumption due to differing driving environments.

 

[Bartman]

Good news is you can easily put a gas or diesel generator in the vault and you'll never be totally stranded.

Think of it like a Hybrid!

 

[Bartman]

Take off the tin-foil hat. The EPA numbers for gas cars are not realistic either, particularly if there are cross-winds, low temperatures and higher speeds involved.

But we have three Tesla Model 3's with a combined mileage of 200,000 real-world miles, that all have lifetime efficiency numbers better than their EPA ratings.

It's important to understand that no testing proceedure can accurately reflect everyone's actual consumption due to differing driving environments.

Only Tesla we've owned that got close to what they said it was rated at, was our early M3 Long Range. We got about 300 real miles on a full charge, when we needed it. Probably because we didn't have a second motor sucking out all the extra juice. I loved that car!

 

[HaulingAss]

Only Tesla we've owned that got close to what they said it was rated at, was our early M3 Long Range. We got about 300 real miles on a full charge, when we needed it. Probably because we didn't have a second motor sucking out all the extra juice. I loved that car!

The most under-rated Tesla ever! That's why we have three Long-Range Model 3's, all going on 6 years old. Two RWD and one AWD Performance with Long-Range Wheels and tires. Odometers read approx. 94K, 72K and 29K. All perfectly reliable and very cheap to own. Quick too.

 

[VDR]

This is TERRIBLE news. That is awful range.

That is going from 100% to 0% and all you get is 254 miles of range?

If you go from 90% to 20% what are going to be able to travel? 200 miles.

So disappointing.

70% SOC is less than 180 miles under the same conditions.

People come here to learn more accurate information, not to get decieved by people pushing the fantasy that a Rivian will return its EPA combined rating under these same conditions.

How much better do you think the CT would do in warmer temps.
As speeds increase it only gets worse for the CT compared to the Rivian

 

[RedCoast]

Have to say as much as Iove the cybertruck and will definitely still be taking delivery his range is really poor when compared to standard ICE pickup trucks.

For an F150 ICE for example 23 gallon tank will get you 400-500 miles easily and if you get the 36 gallon tank you will get 770 miles or more.

This does't matter for me as much as i will be driving mine on an island that is only 50 miles long so it will be very difficult to use the whole range in any given trip unless i intend to top and tail the island 3 times in a day.

Still I hope that they quickly improve the range of the truck over the coming years as they ramp up production.

 

[intimidator]

70% SOC is less than 180 miles under the same conditions.

180 miles? Yikes.

When reserving the 500 mile range variant Cybertruck in November 2019, I would have never guessed over 4 years later we would be talking under 200 miles for a typical charger to charger trip. Grrrrr.

 

[CyberTW]

Whoa. Let's not start calling people "liars." I am assuming you are saying that the Rivian data is inaccurate? It is true that this Rivian test was done in warmer weather

The Rivian on 20" AT Tires had an EPA Rated range of 289 https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=46312&#tab1

70 mph Range Test yeilded 289 miles https://insideevs.com/news/574637/rivian-r1t-70mph-range-test/

At elevation and warm. Kyle specifically called that out

 

[Bankercobb]

Tesla does not "over-state range", it's just your misunderstanding of what EPA range represents. The EPA ranges are derived from controlled testing under very specific conditions. All manufacturers have the same rules to follow.

If a manufacturer lacks engineers with an understanding of EPA test protocols, I would run, not walk, away from all their products. It ain't rocket science.

People say the darndest things!

My bmw i7 and ioniq 6 both achieve the advertised range. None of my 4 teslas from 3, 3P, YLR, and SPlaid have gotten over 70%

 

[Bankercobb]

Take off the tin-foil hat. The EPA numbers for gas cars are not realistic either, particularly if there are cross-winds, low temperatures and higher speeds involved.

But we have three Tesla Model 3's with a combined mileage of 200,000 real-world miles, that all have lifetime efficiency numbers better than their EPA ratings.

It's important to understand that no testing proceedure can accurately reflect everyone's actual consumption due to differing driving environments.

Lmao, I've always achieved epa mpg on my past ice

 

[canyoncarver]

Take off the tin-foil hat. The EPA numbers for gas cars are not realistic either, particularly if there are cross-winds, low temperatures and higher speeds involved.

But we have three Tesla Model 3's with a combined mileage of 200,000 real-world miles, that all have lifetime efficiency numbers better than their EPA ratings.

It's important to understand that no testing proceedure can accurately reflect everyone's actual consumption due to differing driving environments.

Why do you have to be so insulting to people?

The reality is that refueling a truck with a 30 gallon gas tank and a 300 mile REAL WORLD driving range when towing takes 5 minutes.

You can also pull through any of the hundreds of thousands of gas stations that are literally everywhere even in the most off the beaten path parts of the country.

Compare that to going to a supercharger, disconnecting your trailer, pulling in, charging for 45 minutes, pulling out, re-connecting your trailer... nightmare.

I think EVs are great, but they are not for everyone and a 250 mile range on 100% charge on a brand new battery when not towing anything is not going to work for a lot of people who use their trucks as actual trucks.

 

[CyberGus]

It is rational to expect 70% of the rated range when using only 70% of the battery capacity.

 

[madquadbiker]

Good news is you can easily put a gas or diesel generator in the vault and you'll never be totally stranded.

Will it fit inside the bed storage area, obviously remove the bung for the exhaust

 

[madquadbiker]

Have to say as much as Iove the cybertruck and will definitely still be taking delivery his range is really poor when compared to standard ICE pickup trucks.

For an F150 ICE for example 23 gallon tank will get you 400-500 miles easily and if you get the 36 gallon tank you will get 770 miles or more.

This does't matter for me as much as i will be driving mine on an island that is only 50 miles long so it will be very difficult to use the whole range in any given trip unless i intend to top and tail the island 3 times in a day.

Still I hope that they quickly improve the range of the truck over the coming years as they ramp up production.

So boat mode will be important

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