CyberTruck low sale numbers

[Ziggy Stardust]

I get many of your posts and yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder so they say. My better half loves the Maverick we have. It has more bells and such then we ever had and for only 33K. Ford hit it right on this one in my opinion.

Jimbobb23 I truly was open to a EV truck and understand the batteries would bring up the price some but the CT is just to big for many of us that "Would" consider going to a fully EV truck. Like others have said in prior posts Tesla is missing a opportunity to build a 3/4 size CT or SUV. They have the knowledge but just do not seem interested and it is getting less on driver vehicles as the months go by.

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[hemiarch]

This is not a bash on the CyberTruck specs or such but why in my opinion the CT just does not sell like Tesla hoped for.

The CT was brought out to much fanfare and with a just under $40K price for a single motor. It looked like a nice mid priced vehicle at the time with some really nice features included. But what actually came out a few years later was more of a high end priced vehicle that was missing what I think are basic high end touches. Which turned it into a niche product and still is to this day.

So here is a short list of what I think.

The sound system from what I read and you all mention is very good and high quality.

Range was not what was promoted.

The interior is lower grade plastic in many places and just does not seem like a $80-100K+ vehicle

The also cut corners on build as shown by the recalls for the Cantrails and other items that were not put on right in the first place.

Quality control was lacking for the first year or so and many of you had issues with wipers, wind noise, doors, panels not lining up and still happens to this day on some new trucks.

Even some of the extra nice touches had issues like the Tonneau cover leaking water from rain more than it should.

What would be the final production truck was not tested enough if at all in the field like it should have been. Many of the issues coming in colder weather, rain, and even some general usability issues would have been caught and hopefully corrected. Fixing those issues would have made a better product and better sales.

This is just a small list and there is more as I have read from your posts like the PCS issue that costs alot to replace if not warrantied.

I know some of these issues have been corrected now by the 3rd year of production but the damage is done. The CT has several nice features like steer by wire and good towing. But there is also on the other end areas where it just does not seem like a $80-100K vehicle like some of the interior plastic, wind and door noise, window noise issues for some.

In conclusion it is now set to be a niche product. It will never sell even close to what was envisioned to be. To many of you that is fine but that is not what Tesla wanted it to be. Even Elon said the CT may be a downfall for Tesla many years ago.

@Ziggy Stardust , if I didn’t know you I’d call this a troll post. For some people you may not be restating the obvious but for most of us you most certainly are.
But in the interest of discussion , yes. It’s a much lower volume car than expected or elonized but there is also the matter of perceived value that if anything impacts you positively. The CT has been shipping since 2024 yes?
I defy you to find an example without a salvage title for sale for under $70k. If you do, please post it because I know quite a few people are looking for it.
now ignore all the clever FSD and foundation smoke screen antics and consider that a new AWD is 80k.”lower grade plastics” , cantrail recalls; PCS issues, flying lightbars and all.
Compare this to a 2024 f150 lightning.
So, lower volume than expected, yes. Failure? I would argue not by any sane definition.
I’m not selling mine for anything else on the market and I call that a success. Like everything expensive it’s niche to start with.

 

[CyberGus]

Let's not forget and ignore ICE propaganda. Facebook and social media ads targeting Tesla on every chance possible, these tactics prey on the average consumer, and like most consumers they absorb this and run with it.

Right. Long before the Cybertruck reveal, there was a significant campaign underway to sully EVs in general ("ELECTRIC VEHICLES WILL BURN DOWN YOUR HOUSE!!! THERE'S NOWHERE TO CHARGE AND IT TAKES 8 HOURS EVERY 100 MILES!!!")

 

[hemiarch]

Right. Long before the Cybertruck reveal, there was a significant campaign underway to sully EVs in general ("ELECTRIC VEHICLES WILL BURN DOWN YOUR HOUSE!!!" THERE'S NOWHERE TO CHARGE AND IT TAKES 8 HOURS EVERY 100 MILES!!!")

Right. Except it was also at the heart of one of the most incredible product sentiment phase shifts I can think of in history.
the source of the propaganda used to be people who now wear red hats.
and now?

 

[SlegMD]

Correcting basic information has been a blast…

You mean it’s a truck? A 6 foot bed?!

Wait what, you can charge at home, while you sleep?!

Doesn’t that thing cost like, 200k?

 

[CyberGus]

Range anxiety isn't unique to the CT, it's one of the most common factors people cite when buying any BEV, mostly if they've never owned one before. But for people buying what is also a utility vehicle that can tow, it's a genuine concern.

I don't grasp "Range Anxiety" anymore. I can understand the fear of being stuck with no way to charge, but that's really not a thing anymore with the vast DCFC network (although there's obviously some charge-deserts that still need addressing).

If my range drops to 100mi because I'm towing, then I'll stop every 100mi to charge. So what?

 

[CyberGus]

Right. Except it was also at the heart of one of the most incredible product sentiment phase shifts I can think of in history.
the source of the propaganda used to be people who now wear red hats.
and now?

EV owners went from "tree huggers" to "billionaire huggers"

I'm good either way

 

[hemiarch]

EV owners went from "tree huggers" to "billionaire huggers"

I'm good either way

Yep. Just more hugs for you.
things we know about Gus.
1. A tree
2. A billionaire

 

[Loudness]

I don't grasp "Range Anxiety" anymore. I can understand the fear of being stuck with no way to charge, but that's really not a thing anymore with the vast DCFC network (although there's obviously some charge-deserts that still need addressing).

If my range drops to 100mi because I'm towing, then I'll stop every 100mi to charge. So what?

I agree with you, now that I've owned a Tesla. Before that? I really had no idea how extensive the charging networks are now. The problem isn't the charging infrastructure itself, it's the ignorance of the infrastructure to the general public. It's a frequently cited concern of potential new BEV buyers.

 

[AlDente]

Most of the 1M+ reservations failed to convert to sales for 3 main reasons:

1. Price
2. Price
And
3. Price

Did you mention price?

 

[TyPope]

I get many of your posts and yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder so they say. My better half loves the Maverick we have. It has more bells and such then we ever had and for only 33K. Ford hit it right on this one in my opinion.

Jimbobb23 I truly was open to a EV truck and understand the batteries would bring up the price some but the CT is just to big for many of us that "Would" consider going to a fully EV truck. Like others have said in prior posts Tesla is missing a opportunity to build a 3/4 size CT or SUV. They have the knowledge but just do not seem interested and it is getting less on driver vehicles as the months go by.

I keep hearing the size of the CT is too big. Have you compared it to, say, an F-150 of similar people capacity? My CT is smaller in every dimention except Bed size than my previous F-150 (and all of my F-250/350/450s). It IS larger than the Maverick we traded in. We loved the Maverick and it was actually roomy inside for 4. But, I had waited long enough and my wife was on her 2nd MY. So, Mavy had to be traded in. Still miss you, Mavy. Little truck doing big truck stuff!

 

[CyberGus]

I keep hearing the size of the CT is too big. Have you compared it to, say, an F-150 of similar people capacity?

I think some are laboring under the mistaken impression that a 20% smaller Cybertruck would be 20% cheaper.

 

[YDR37]

There's a small market for $80k+ trucks and even smaller for BEV trucks.

Tesla's BEV truck was not a market hit -- but neither was any other BEV truck. The interesting thing is that different manufacturers are reacting to this development in completely different ways:

Rivian: BEV trucks don't sell, because EV customers prefer the SUV design. So let's make BEV SUVs instead.

Ford: BEV trucks don't sell, because the range is too low. So let's make an EREV truck instead.

Slate: BEV trucks don't sell, because they are too expensive. So let's make a BEV truck that's really cheap instead.

Tesla: BEV trucks don't sell, and it has nothing to do with design or range or price. It's because people are tired of driving around with a steering wheel and pedals. So let's make a fully autonomous Cybercab instead.

 

[ςyb3®tЯμ¢kℓ|gh†n!ng]

This is not a bash on the CyberTruck specs or such but why in my opinion the CT just does not sell like Tesla hoped for.

The CT was brought out to much fanfare and with a just under $40K price for a single motor. It looked like a nice mid priced vehicle at the time with some really nice features included. But what actually came out a few years later was more of a high end priced vehicle that was missing what I think are basic high end touches. Which turned it into a niche product and still is to this day.

So here is a short list of what I think.

The sound system from what I read and you all mention is very good and high quality.

Range was not what was promoted.

The interior is lower grade plastic in many places and just does not seem like a $80-100K+ vehicle

The also cut corners on build as shown by the recalls for the Cantrails and other items that were not put on right in the first place.

Quality control was lacking for the first year or so and many of you had issues with wipers, wind noise, doors, panels not lining up and still happens to this day on some new trucks.

Even some of the extra nice touches had issues like the Tonneau cover leaking water from rain more than it should.

What would be the final production truck was not tested enough if at all in the field like it should have been. Many of the issues coming in colder weather, rain, and even some general usability issues would have been caught and hopefully corrected. Fixing those issues would have made a better product and better sales.

This is just a small list and there is more as I have read from your posts like the PCS issue that costs alot to replace if not warrantied.

I know some of these issues have been corrected now by the 3rd year of production but the damage is done. The CT has several nice features like steer by wire and good towing. But there is also on the other end areas where it just does not seem like a $80-100K vehicle like some of the interior plastic, wind and door noise, window noise issues for some.

In conclusion it is now set to be a niche product. It will never sell even close to what was envisioned to be. To many of you that is fine but that is not what Tesla wanted it to be. Even Elon said the CT may be a downfall for Tesla many years ago.

It's all about the money and Elon knows it. The political stuff didn't help sales much either.
That being set aside, he only has only one thing on his mind. Multi-Planet civilization. The learnings on the cybertruck (drive by wire, high voltage efficiencies, stainless steel body manufacturing) were all for space travel. Sending driverless trucks to other plants to move cargo? Drive by wire helped with that. The stainless steel body should work in space. The high voltage helps with production efficiencies and charging. The software for tuning for different terrains will also help. This is likely why he is keeping the cybertruck in production.

 

[Freddy07]

All this online stuff has really made people care about sales figures for a car. Bottom line: if you like it, buy it. If you hate it, don't. Basing my purchasing decisions on things that have no effect on me is silly. If we all started basing our purchases on the behaviors of CEOs and billionaires, we wouldn't be able to buy anything.

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