Dealing with FSD and Pay attention to the road

[motleytwins]

OK, so let me start by saying that I love my CB. FSD latest version is awesome. and I have done over 12k miles so far, some of them on long 1500-mile round trips with FSD (mostly on)

However, attention monitoring is driving me nuts.

If I change the temperature....Pay attention....
If I change volume....pay attention...
if I change media..... pay attention...
If I look for closest coffee location on destinations..... pay attention...
If I get gum out of my center console... looking forward almost all of the time.... Pay attention...
If I sneeze ..... yep...sneeze... pay attention....
even if I am looking straight out of the front window.... I can get.... pay attention...

I then have to disengage FSD manually (and I report it) just to make sure I don't get a strike

I have cleaned the internal camera to make sure its not that.

Is this what you are all experiencing as well... seems even more sensitive since last update.... and these are all things i am doing while still being responsible looking at the road, like i would in any car....

Couldn’t agree more! I love my CT, but the constant warnings to Pay Attention are like driving with your parent in the car! It definitely got worse with the latest update (v.13.2.2) and now flashes blue on the screen when I’m pressing the accelerator while on FSD! It sucks much of the enjoyment out of FSD!

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[Dmayo305]

OK, so let me start by saying that I love my CB. FSD latest version is awesome. and I have done over 12k miles so far, some of them on long 1500-mile round trips with FSD (mostly on)

However, attention monitoring is driving me nuts.

If I change the temperature....Pay attention....
If I change volume....pay attention...
if I change media..... pay attention...
If I look for closest coffee location on destinations..... pay attention...
If I get gum out of my center console... looking forward almost all of the time.... Pay attention...
If I sneeze ..... yep...sneeze... pay attention....
even if I am looking straight out of the front window.... I can get.... pay attention...

I then have to disengage FSD manually (and I report it) just to make sure I don't get a strike

I have cleaned the internal camera to make sure its not that.

Is this what you are all experiencing as well... seems even more sensitive since last update.... and these are all things i am doing while still being responsible looking at the road, like i would in any car....

Yes! It drives me absolutely crazy. And I'm convinced it's a passive aggressive way to give the finger to lawmakers. I wish we could just get a basic autopilot again. My 2014 MS with AP1 was the best AP experience I have had. There was a time period where I could get on the highway and it would drive me all the way to my exit without a single nudge (and no cabin camera to spy on my face). Then some yahoo posted a video of himself sleeping around the same time another Tesla crashed into an emergency vehicle... Then I got a nudge ever 2 seconds, even when I was holding the wheel.
Hopefully we can get away from "supervised" soon.

 

[rudedawg78]

OK, so let me start by saying that I love my CB. FSD latest version is awesome. and I have done over 12k miles so far, some of them on long 1500-mile round trips with FSD (mostly on)

However, attention monitoring is driving me nuts.

If I change the temperature....Pay attention....
If I change volume....pay attention...
if I change media..... pay attention...
If I look for closest coffee location on destinations..... pay attention...
If I get gum out of my center console... looking forward almost all of the time.... Pay attention...
If I sneeze ..... yep...sneeze... pay attention....
even if I am looking straight out of the front window.... I can get.... pay attention...

I then have to disengage FSD manually (and I report it) just to make sure I don't get a strike

I have cleaned the internal camera to make sure its not that.

Is this what you are all experiencing as well... seems even more sensitive since last update.... and these are all things i am doing while still being responsible looking at the road, like i would in any car....

In my opinion your attention monitoring system is overly sensitive. I have done all of what you did, without a warning...even in dense traffic. ?‍

 

[REM]

No always true. FSD kept telling me to pay attention when I was completely locked on the road with my eyes and head facing forward. I had to disengage and leave a comment.

What's your posture? Are you sitting with your hands in/near your lap? I used to get "device/phone use detected" when I was just sitting at rest and monitoring the roadway.

I can see how the attention algorithm would assume I had a phone buried in my lap since a ton of people use their phone that way. Seemed to have been fixed in the latest update though.

 

[Dmayo305]

Only problem i have is when i’m trying to fuss with navigation… the trip navigation i find to be a real pita. This is really only because I’m trying to test FSD to my daily destination AROUND construction routes. The zooming in and out when I just want to see what route it Is taking in a specific rough spot is nuts.

This!!! I think we won't see full self driving until the navigation gets better. A can't remember which thread, but someone recommended a feature to teach the navi a user's preferred route. That would be awesome, because it gets the routing to or from my house wrong Every.Single.Time.

 

[sdip2k1]

I couldnt agree more, it's barely worth using anymore with how annoying the nudges are.

Why is basic autopilot not available? Tesla said it was included and no mention of it still being a work in progress, ridiculous.

 

[Dmayo305]

In my opinion your attention monitoring system is overly sensitive. I have done all of what you did, without a warning...even in dense traffic. ?‍

Do you frequently wear sunglasses? That's the only way I can get it to cut me some slack. I'm half tempted to use my wife's blue blocker glasses to see if it confuses the camera at night.

 

[dalton108]

I think a lot of folks have noticed it being significantly more sensitive in the last two or so builds. I have as well. I’ve never had a disengagement for not paying attention and on the latest version I have two strikes.

Completely unprecedented for me so there’s no question that it’s more sensitive to what it considers distracted driving. The last one I got is because the car was routing me in a different direction that I wanted to be going and I simply trying to fix the route in real time.

I still had one eye on the road and was fully aware of everything going on. They’ll get it dialed in better.

 

[Tecyber1]

Yep! It’s annoying as hell! Reach for something, adjust something in the screen. Ha!

 

[jeniferkey]

I’m still used to keeping one hand on the steering wheel for torque as needed from previous versions, so I usually have my hand hanging off the wheel which seems to give me more leeway on looking for stuff or working through things on the screen. I’ve only had one forced disengage in the past month and I think it had to do with the road and not my driving. I agree with hands off the wheel it does give notice of distracted driving a bit more quickly now. For me it’s still tons better than the forced hand on the wheel at all times of a year ago.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

OK, so let me start by saying that I love my CB. FSD latest version is awesome. and I have done over 12k miles so far, some of them on long 1500-mile round trips with FSD (mostly on)

However, attention monitoring is driving me nuts.

If I change the temperature....Pay attention....
If I change volume....pay attention...
if I change media..... pay attention...
If I look for closest coffee location on destinations..... pay attention...
If I get gum out of my center console... looking forward almost all of the time.... Pay attention...
If I sneeze ..... yep...sneeze... pay attention....
even if I am looking straight out of the front window.... I can get.... pay attention...

I then have to disengage FSD manually (and I report it) just to make sure I don't get a strike

I have cleaned the internal camera to make sure its not that.

Is this what you are all experiencing as well... seems even more sensitive since last update.... and these are all things i am doing while still being responsible looking at the road, like i would in any car....

I have done most of those things (not the gum) and never got a ‘pay attention’ warning unless I took too long. You are just slow. I did get a couple of interesting warnings returning to the Bay Area after a road trip last week. I was watching the road and had my hands on the wheel but I was daydreaming (both times) when I got the warnings. How do they do that :^}

 

[BritInSoCal]

No always true. FSD kept telling me to pay attention when I was completely locked on the road with my eyes and head facing forward. I had to disengage and leave a comment.

Exactly! I’m staring straight through the windscreen and it tells me to pay attention (silently). Then I get a strike and no more FSD for that trip.
Most times I notice the blue on the screen, but sometimes I’m paying attention to the road and not the screen.
I’ve had to disengage numerous times to prevent a strike out, and I do leave a comment and have the privacy settings to use my video. Hopefully they’ll fix it.
I’ve tried with and without glasses/sunglasses. Also I’ve found with the latest release it’s going in and out of eye monitoring mode throughout a trip.
Looking forward to the unsupervised version

 

[dLux]

I then have to disengage FSD manually (and I report it) just to make sure I don't get a strike

I don't think that helps, does it? It should count the number of notices per drive (from Park to Park), not per FSD activation.

 

[Cyber Man]

I don't think that helps, does it? It should count the number of notices per drive (from Park to Park), not per FSD activation.

If you don’t engage it again till you park, you won’t get a strike. I have done this a few times to avoid getting a strike. Lately I have started disengaging FSD if I have to quickly change the navigation or search something on the screen. I have started using voice commands more. I think voice commanding is the way to go to be fully hands free!

 

[REM]

I was watching the road and had my hands on the wheel but I was daydreaming (both times) when I got the warnings. How do they do that :^}

The cameras are sensitive enough to track your pupils to a highly accurate degree.

No other OEM has bothered to gather this data, so here we are. Tesla is a decade ahead because they understand what big data and AI can do.

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