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Gasoline is also quite flammable. Old timers recall when homes had 'Attached garages' because early adoption of gas powered cars was a fire concern.

Hence the garage was a separate structure from the house- in the early adoption of cars.
I know. That was kind if my point. All modern cars on the road today use volatile chemistry for fuel. 😉
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As vehicles get safer and safer, people survive collisions that would have previously been fatal. That's great if it happens on the highway in rush hour but not as useful if you're passed out drunk and hit a wall at 2am so hard that you mangle a Cybertruck. That was a fatal accident, fueled by bad choices.
 

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This lawsuit is a complete joke. Do you know how many people who rode in my CT used the emergency door release instead of the button to open the door? I actually lost count. I‘m shocked my glass has broken yet from people doing this.
 

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I don't think any remediation is necessary - the existing latch, as others have stated, is actually more intuitive than the push-button. However, if you really want a fool-proof (and I do mean "fool" proof) solution, I think making the mechanical latch double-acting would be ideal. Pull up partially for the electronic release and harder/further to engage the mechanical release. Then the emergency release is the same as the normal release so noone will forget in a panic.
Lucid does this with their cars. As ingenious as this is, I sort of like the approach Tesla has. Keeping both way separate. Honestly, if I didn’t see a video for Lucid showing this I would have never known. Keeping it separate it’s pretty self explanatory.
 

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Reading the defective design claims in the lawsuit is kind of silly.

"Battery cell chemistry used is hyper volatile and susceptible to thermal runaway"

Come on.... We gonna start suing gasoline powered car manufacturers too? Since they also use a hyper volatile chemistry that is prone to thermal runaway? :rolleyes:
Real? sure anyone can file a lawsuit, if you want attention, mention Elon Musk or President Trump. Who would believe for a second that vehicles are built without meeting the law? (And common sense).
 


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This lawsuit is a complete joke. Do you know how many people who rode in my CT used the emergency door release instead of the button to open the door? I actually lost count.
You know how many people have used the emergency door release in my CT? None. Ahhh, the joy of anecdotal data.

There are numerous examples of people getting "stuck" in a Tesla after an accident. I'd agree that people should RTFM, but that doesn't mean Tesla can't take steps to improve. (I don't think it makes them liable in this case, however.)

I‘m shocked my glass has broken yet from people doing this.
After enough people did break the glass, Tesla added a sensor to the emergency release that triggers the window to lower (assuming the vehicle has power, and the door was not violently thrust open too quickly).
 

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This lawsuit is a complete joke. Do you know how many people who rode in my CT used the emergency door release instead of the button to open the door? I actually lost count. I‘m shocked my glass has broken yet from people doing this.
Your glass will never break, the software was changed to lower the window to prevent damage to the weatherstripping when you open the emergency latch, not the glass.
The Cybertruck is the safest vehicle on the road.
 
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Lucid does this with their cars. As ingenious as this is, I sort of like the approach Tesla has. Keeping both way separate. Honestly, if I didn’t see a video for Lucid showing this I would have never known. Keeping it separate it’s pretty self explanatory.
The beauty of the Lucid approach is you don't have to know. Most people, when in a panic will naturally pull harder if the first attempt does not open the door.
 

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Baytown is in Texas. The story is real but the lawsuit is bogus. The toxicology report showed alcohol and cocaine. The crash happened at 2 am. It targets the Whisky Barn for over-serving (there might be something to that claim but people need to stop blaming others for their family members stupid mistakes). It also targets Tesla, claiming that the Cybertruck doors won't open without power (which is false). As far as I can tell, there is no evidence he even tried to get out (he was too wasted to stay on a straight road, probably passed out). Tesla will probably not pay a dime on this one but that doesn't stop the media from acting like the Cybertruck is dangerous when it's actually safer than the millions of legacy trucks on the road.
 

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Your glass will never break, the software was changed to lower the window to prevent damage to the weatherstripping when you open the emergency latch, not the glass.
The weatherstripping is an issue, but you will be buying a new window if you open/close a door with the window in the fully raised position. It will hit the cantrail.

That's why the Service Guide instructs you to lower all the windows and/or place an obstruction in the door jamb when disconnecting power.
 


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Your glass will never break, the software was changed to lower the window to prevent damage to the weatherstripping when you open the emergency latch, not the glass.
The Cybertruck is the safest vehicle on the road.
My wife’s new MY has a replacement driver window because when the 12-v battery dies, the window doesn't go down. You can force open the door using the backup release but the glass will break when shut again. Tesla also had to replace her door trim.
 

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The beauty of the Lucid approach is you don't have to know. Most people, when in a panic will naturally pull harder if the first attempt does not open the door.
After reading your post, I have to agree with your assessment.
 

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My wife’s new MY has a replacement driver window because when the 12-v battery dies, the window doesn't go down. You can force open the door using the backup release but the glass will break when shut again. Tesla also had to replace her door trim.
It is hard to make electrical things work with no electricity. I did try to open my wife's model Y without the window going down and it didn't break, but I forgot how I got it to close, it still isn't broken though, must be how it is adjusted.
 

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Baytown is in Texas. The story is real but the lawsuit is bogus. The toxicology report showed alcohol and cocaine. The crash happened at 2 am. It targets the Whisky Barn for over-serving (there might be something to that claim but people need to stop blaming others for their family members stupid mistakes). It also targets Tesla, claiming that the Cybertruck doors won't open without power (which is false). As far as I can tell, there is no evidence he even tried to get out (he was too wasted to stay on a straight road, probably passed out). Tesla will probably not pay a dime on this one but that doesn't stop the media from acting like the Cybertruck is dangerous when it's actually safer than the millions of legacy trucks on the road.
Totally agree with you. The lawsuit feels way over the top, especially when the toxicology report has both alcohol and cocaine. It’s not just blaming the bar or Tesla when personal responsibility clearly comes into play. If anything, people should be talking more about prevention. I looked at Intoxalock reviews recently and saw tons of folks recommending it as a reliable way to prevent drunk driving. I guess it's a lot more practical than pointing fingers in court.
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