FSD 13.2 DOA

[Bobo_LaDouche]

Dear Tesla, in the spirit of hoping there are meaningful improvements, I have some suggestions since FSD 13.2. Note that I very much like the FSD in my model 3.

1. Cybertruck still does not drive in the center of the lane. This causes safety complications, particularly when passing large trucks. [Is this because the front camera is not in the center? How about an adjustment? 8" would be fine.] Also, the vehicle hugs the outside of the lane in turns, scaring surrounding drivers, and me. How about some calculus for these curves, rather than bouncing from lane edge to lane edge?

2. CT still can not stay safely on the road, and has repeatedly driven me into the shoulder at highway speeds. This is well documented, as you certainly see. This is more prevalent when the wind blows, but regardless, the vehicle needs to travel within the lanes properly to be safe. Other instances of "missing the road" include not turning at a right hand turn of the road recently, and plowing me head-on into a snow bank and curb. This technically is a vehicle accident - head on! - but I averted damage by using the brakes. The car has driven this particular road many times correctly before 13.2.

3. The "auto-on" feature for the windshield wiper will only make sense when the wiper functions properly. It is not necessary for it to turn on and off every 2 minutes in a dry desert climate. Could we have an OFF feature please?"

4. Velocity controls are appalling. The "percentage" variance is part of the problem, a big part. Please return to the +/- mph option. Also, less information is on the screen now, as the velocity specified by the driver is not shown continuously as it was previously. Less information is worse in my opinion, and seriously depreciates the value of FSD.

5. If I could also make a small ask - how about a volume control for the BUZZERS? I already use "Joe Mode", but that is still 65 or 70 decibels and irritating. I do know how to drive, so NO CHIMES or SOFT CHIMES would be more appropriate, please. Volume control would be best, with better range.

6. Also regarding range - could we dampen the tail-gating function (follow distance)? Even on the widest setting, the close distance is considered tail-gaiting where I live. Could we triple or quadruple the distance we can follow? I understand that people in big cities drive closer, but elsewhere, driving like that is very bad behavior and begets ill-will for those that do. There is no need to alienate the non-Tesla driving community.

7. The feature to auto-close the mirrors is very nice, but has lost its accuracy and thus become less useful. Not sure why, but it has.

8. The "home" feature still can not find my home, but rather drives to my neighbors house. Could we have a fix for the errant database that does this?

9. Auto-park is awesome! The truck did stop moving before slamming into the pillar, with a full 4" to spare Backing straight in would have been easier, and I was curious to see how it would perform with a crazy-s back-in, but it did stop when it failed. Awesome!

We know all of you FSD engineers have your hands full, and we appreciate the effort and work. These are just my sincere comments that would make driving less troublesome.

Thank you.

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[nico007]

You must have a different car. I just did Oakland to Venice beach door to door with only one intervention to reverse the car in the supercharger stall.
Absolutely flawless, alternating between Agressive and Chill with 40% speed offset.

 

[CTInProcess]

Im going to chalk this up as User Error again. The CT is the best vehicle to ever use FSD period.

 

[dalton108]

Dear Tesla, in the spirit of hoping there are meaningful improvements, I have some suggestions since FSD 13.2. Note that I very much like the FSD in my model 3.

1. Cybertruck still does not drive in the center of the lane. This causes safety complications, particularly when passing large trucks. [Is this because the front camera is not in the center? How about an adjustment? 8" would be fine.] Also, the vehicle hugs the outside of the lane in turns, scaring surrounding drivers, and me. How about some calculus for these curves, rather than bouncing from lane edge to lane edge?

2. CT still can not stay safely on the road, and has repeatedly driven me into the shoulder at highway speeds. This is well documented, as you certainly see. This is more prevalent when the wind blows, but regardless, the vehicle needs to travel within the lanes properly to be safe. Other instances of "missing the road" include not turning at a right hand turn of the road recently, and plowing me head-on into a snow bank and curb. This technically is a vehicle accident - head on! - but I averted damage by using the brakes. The car has driven this particular road many times correctly before 13.2.

3. The "auto-on" feature for the windshield wiper will only make sense when the wiper functions properly. It is not necessary for it to turn on and off every 2 minutes in a dry desert climate. Could we have an OFF feature please?"

4. Velocity controls are appalling. The "percentage" variance is part of the problem, a big part. Please return to the +/- mph option. Also, less information is on the screen now, as the velocity specified by the driver is not shown continuously as it was previously. Less information is worse in my opinion, and seriously depreciates the value of FSD.

5. If I could also make a small ask - how about a volume control for the BUZZERS? I already use "Joe Mode", but that is still 65 or 70 decibels and irritating. I do know how to drive, so NO CHIMES or SOFT CHIMES would be more appropriate, please. Volume control would be best, with better range.

6. Also regarding range - could we dampen the tail-gating function (follow distance)? Even on the widest setting, the close distance is considered tail-gaiting where I live. Could we triple or quadruple the distance we can follow? I understand that people in big cities drive closer, but elsewhere, driving like that is very bad behavior and begets ill-will for those that do. There is no need to alienate the non-Tesla driving community.

7. The feature to auto-close the mirrors is very nice, but has lost its accuracy and thus become less useful. Not sure why, but it has.

8. The "home" feature still can not find my home, but rather drives to my neighbors house. Could we have a fix for the errant database that does this?

9. Auto-park is awesome! The truck did stop moving before slamming into the pillar, with a full 4" to spare Backing straight in would have been easier, and I was curious to see how it would perform with a crazy-s back-in, but it did stop when it failed. Awesome!

We know all of you FSD engineers have your hands full, and we appreciate the effort and work. These are just my sincere comments that would make driving less troublesome.

Thank you.

Dear Tesla (I have no idea why I’m addressing you here like this makes sense for Customer Support but, OK):

I think this guy might be talking about Blues Cruise or something. None of this comports with my reality.

Thank you.

 

[countryboy]

1. Cybertruck still does not drive in the center of the lane.

100% agree still an issue, but it IS better than v12 on the backroads, not crossing yellow like it used to. But just did 900 miles on a busy 2-lane highway and it was riding the double yellow on the reflectors, had to disengage to avoid oncoming traffic. Other times it rode the shoulder for no apparent reason.

3. The "auto-on" feature for the windshield wiper

Standard Tesla wiper logic, at least we can turn it off now, moving on...

4. Velocity controls are appalling.

Totally agree. Stupid to hide max speed and ignore it on all levels. Stupid +40% suggestion, almost got a ticket! Stupid concepts all around. I want the old "try to go Max unless there's a reason not to" logic please. And what about MINIMIZE LANE CHANGES! sometimes I just want to follow in the right lane...

5. If I could also make a small ask - how about a volume control for the BUZZERS?

YES PLEASE

6. Also regarding range - could we dampen the tail-gating function (follow distance)?

I have the opposite problem but agree this should be more selectable and not tied directly to the chill/standard/hurry setting.

8. The "home" feature still can not find my home, but rather drives to my neighbors house. Could we have a fix for the errant database that does this?

Ignore address #. Set a pin. Mark it as your home.

9. Auto-park is awesome!

I have found it slow, tedious, uncentered, and not in far enough to reach charger.. but neat trick.

Thank you.

No, thank YOU.

 

[CTSoFL]

Dear Tesla, in the spirit of hoping there are meaningful improvements, I have some suggestions since FSD 13.2. Note that I very much like the FSD in my model 3.

1. Cybertruck still does not drive in the center of the lane. This causes safety complications, particularly when passing large trucks. [Is this because the front camera is not in the center? How about an adjustment? 8" would be fine.] Also, the vehicle hugs the outside of the lane in turns, scaring surrounding drivers, and me. How about some calculus for these curves, rather than bouncing from lane edge to lane edge?

2. CT still can not stay safely on the road, and has repeatedly driven me into the shoulder at highway speeds. This is well documented, as you certainly see. This is more prevalent when the wind blows, but regardless, the vehicle needs to travel within the lanes properly to be safe. Other instances of "missing the road" include not turning at a right hand turn of the road recently, and plowing me head-on into a snow bank and curb. This technically is a vehicle accident - head on! - but I averted damage by using the brakes. The car has driven this particular road many times correctly before 13.2.

3. The "auto-on" feature for the windshield wiper will only make sense when the wiper functions properly. It is not necessary for it to turn on and off every 2 minutes in a dry desert climate. Could we have an OFF feature please?"

4. Velocity controls are appalling. The "percentage" variance is part of the problem, a big part. Please return to the +/- mph option. Also, less information is on the screen now, as the velocity specified by the driver is not shown continuously as it was previously. Less information is worse in my opinion, and seriously depreciates the value of FSD.

5. If I could also make a small ask - how about a volume control for the BUZZERS? I already use "Joe Mode", but that is still 65 or 70 decibels and irritating. I do know how to drive, so NO CHIMES or SOFT CHIMES would be more appropriate, please. Volume control would be best, with better range.

6. Also regarding range - could we dampen the tail-gating function (follow distance)? Even on the widest setting, the close distance is considered tail-gaiting where I live. Could we triple or quadruple the distance we can follow? I understand that people in big cities drive closer, but elsewhere, driving like that is very bad behavior and begets ill-will for those that do. There is no need to alienate the non-Tesla driving community.

7. The feature to auto-close the mirrors is very nice, but has lost its accuracy and thus become less useful. Not sure why, but it has.

8. The "home" feature still can not find my home, but rather drives to my neighbors house. Could we have a fix for the errant database that does this?

9. Auto-park is awesome! The truck did stop moving before slamming into the pillar, with a full 4" to spare Backing straight in would have been easier, and I was curious to see how it would perform with a crazy-s back-in, but it did stop when it failed. Awesome!

We know all of you FSD engineers have your hands full, and we appreciate the effort and work. These are just my sincere comments that would make driving less troublesome.

Thank you.

you must be fun at parties.

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[Guylouis]

Mount a GoPro and post the video. This will help

 

[CTInProcess]

I see a lot of short sellers here

 

[Crissa]

Dear Tesla, in the spirit of hoping there are meaningful improvements, I have some suggestions since FSD 13.2. Note that I very much like the FSD in my model 3.

1. Cybertruck still does not drive in the center of the lane. This causes safety complications, particularly when passing large trucks. [Is this because the front camera is not in the center? How about an adjustment? 8" would be fine.] Also, the vehicle hugs the outside of the lane in turns, scaring surrounding drivers, and me. How about some calculus for these curves, rather than bouncing from lane edge to lane edge?

2. CT still can not stay safely on the road, and has repeatedly driven me into the shoulder at highway speeds. This is well documented, as you certainly see. This is more prevalent when the wind blows, but regardless, the vehicle needs to travel within the lanes properly to be safe. Other instances of "missing the road" include not turning at a right hand turn of the road recently, and plowing me head-on into a snow bank and curb. This technically is a vehicle accident - head on! - but I averted damage by using the brakes. The car has driven this particular road many times correctly before 13.2.

3. The "auto-on" feature for the windshield wiper will only make sense when the wiper functions properly. It is not necessary for it to turn on and off every 2 minutes in a dry desert climate. Could we have an OFF feature please?"

4. Velocity controls are appalling. The "percentage" variance is part of the problem, a big part. Please return to the +/- mph option. Also, less information is on the screen now, as the velocity specified by the driver is not shown continuously as it was previously. Less information is worse in my opinion, and seriously depreciates the value of FSD.

5. If I could also make a small ask - how about a volume control for the BUZZERS? I already use "Joe Mode", but that is still 65 or 70 decibels and irritating. I do know how to drive, so NO CHIMES or SOFT CHIMES would be more appropriate, please. Volume control would be best, with better range.

6. Also regarding range - could we dampen the tail-gating function (follow distance)? Even on the widest setting, the close distance is considered tail-gaiting where I live. Could we triple or quadruple the distance we can follow? I understand that people in big cities drive closer, but elsewhere, driving like that is very bad behavior and begets ill-will for those that do. There is no need to alienate the non-Tesla driving community.

7. The feature to auto-close the mirrors is very nice, but has lost its accuracy and thus become less useful. Not sure why, but it has.

8. The "home" feature still can not find my home, but rather drives to my neighbors house. Could we have a fix for the errant database that does this?

9. Auto-park is awesome! The truck did stop moving before slamming into the pillar, with a full 4" to spare Backing straight in would have been easier, and I was curious to see how it would perform with a crazy-s back-in, but it did stop when it failed. Awesome!

We know all of you FSD engineers have your hands full, and we appreciate the effort and work. These are just my sincere comments that would make driving less troublesome.

Thank you.

1. Are you sure you have 13.2?
2. See #1
3. Turning off the auto wiper would mean you could turn it off when it couldn't see. Should it just disable auto wiper and never blink and possibly be blind?
4. It's FSD, not cruise control.
5. This probably reasonable, but also, how does it know you're listing to its attempts at communicating?
6. The distance is a number of seconds behind the other vehicle and it's less accurate the further back it is. But this is a good suggestion to work on.

It's a work in progress. It's supposed to be.

-Crissa

 

[TeX19]

How about this one? I'm driving I-75 FL to GA. Occasionally there's a sign following the 70 MPH speed limit sign that says 40MPH minimum. It now shows 40MPH on the screen. FSD interprets this as THE SPEED LIMIT and promptly slows down from 75 -80 whatever the bulk is traveling. I intervene immediately so as not to get kissed in the rear and re-engage FSD. Interesting, driving back GA to FL, this did not happen.
And yes, hugging the outside lane line on a curve is unnerving. I see the cars passing me are hugging the shoulder. BTW, I want to control lane changes. Is there no way to turn off auto lane change? What happened to following distance adjustments? I'm in chill mode and feel like I'm tailgating just prior to auto lane change.

 

[Speedr]

Reboot and re-calibrate your cameras.

Made a difference for me. V13.2.1 has been VERY good for me in Florida so far.

 

[Philly Burbs]

1. and 2. Agreed, frightened by running over the sewer grate 6" from the curb when no center line is present and 6" off the center line when it is present. Can we set our offset in 1' incriments?

3. Auto on is too sensitive, wiper goes on when traveling under an overpass on a sunny day.

5. Volume controls please

10. FSD blinded by super bright lights at night. Has it happened to you?
I got a ding on my FSD record when I did not grab the wheel fast enough going over a rise at the same time an oncoming car hit me with the brights on. I could see by lowering my eyes but obviously the camera could not se my eyes.

11. Larger or expandable rear view camera picture on the screen. I have to wear bifocals to see the rear view camera, needs to be at least as large as a normal rear view mirror.

12. Turn signal camera moves to lane view beside you , great when in traffic, not so great when stopped.

 

[Bobo_LaDouche]

10. FSD blinded by super bright lights at night. Has it happened to you?
I got a ding on my FSD record when I did not grab the wheel fast enough going over a rise at the same time an oncoming car hit me with the brights on. I could see by lowering my eyes but obviously the camera could not se my eyes.

Interesting observation on "super bright lights at night". This might be why my CT drove straight off the road and into a snowbank. I was only moving 15 mph and the road curved right, but the vehicle plowed straight ahead, just when the lights reflected back from the snow, and everything became super bright.

**Everyone should aware that I have rebooted the car and that I keep my cameras clean and calibrated.

 

[igs]

Dear Tesla, in the spirit of hoping there are meaningful improvements, I have some suggestions since FSD 13.2. Note that I very much like the FSD in my model 3.

1. Cybertruck still does not drive in the center of the lane. This causes safety complications, particularly when passing large trucks. [Is this because the front camera is not in the center? How about an adjustment? 8" would be fine.] Also, the vehicle hugs the outside of the lane in turns, scaring surrounding drivers, and me. How about some calculus for these curves, rather than bouncing from lane edge to lane edge?

2. CT still can not stay safely on the road, and has repeatedly driven me into the shoulder at highway speeds. This is well documented, as you certainly see. This is more prevalent when the wind blows, but regardless, the vehicle needs to travel within the lanes properly to be safe. Other instances of "missing the road" include not turning at a right hand turn of the road recently, and plowing me head-on into a snow bank and curb. This technically is a vehicle accident - head on! - but I averted damage by using the brakes. The car has driven this particular road many times correctly before 13.2.

3. The "auto-on" feature for the windshield wiper will only make sense when the wiper functions properly. It is not necessary for it to turn on and off every 2 minutes in a dry desert climate. Could we have an OFF feature please?"

4. Velocity controls are appalling. The "percentage" variance is part of the problem, a big part. Please return to the +/- mph option. Also, less information is on the screen now, as the velocity specified by the driver is not shown continuously as it was previously. Less information is worse in my opinion, and seriously depreciates the value of FSD.

5. If I could also make a small ask - how about a volume control for the BUZZERS? I already use "Joe Mode", but that is still 65 or 70 decibels and irritating. I do know how to drive, so NO CHIMES or SOFT CHIMES would be more appropriate, please. Volume control would be best, with better range.

6. Also regarding range - could we dampen the tail-gating function (follow distance)? Even on the widest setting, the close distance is considered tail-gaiting where I live. Could we triple or quadruple the distance we can follow? I understand that people in big cities drive closer, but elsewhere, driving like that is very bad behavior and begets ill-will for those that do. There is no need to alienate the non-Tesla driving community.

7. The feature to auto-close the mirrors is very nice, but has lost its accuracy and thus become less useful. Not sure why, but it has.

8. The "home" feature still can not find my home, but rather drives to my neighbors house. Could we have a fix for the errant database that does this?

9. Auto-park is awesome! The truck did stop moving before slamming into the pillar, with a full 4" to spare Backing straight in would have been easier, and I was curious to see how it would perform with a crazy-s back-in, but it did stop when it failed. Awesome!

We know all of you FSD engineers have your hands full, and we appreciate the effort and work. These are just my sincere comments that would make driving less troublesome.

Thank you.

Every release is a step backward. One step forward, two steps back, net result is one step backward.

Occasionally you will get a leap forward, like v12.5, but then it's back to going backward. Net result is FSD just treading water and going nowhere.

 

[Bobo_LaDouche]

I seriously believe it will move forward and become good. I just want to provide an opinion for how to make it better. Others seem to have identified the same issues; maybe this will change some priorities -- stay in the lane, let the human have better control of velocity, and put some common sense into the wiper and buzzers. Lane changes and follow distances probably will not improve until the distance of intelligence increases, meaning that, as long as the vehicle only sees 100 yards or so, it can't be too intelligent regarding some of these obstacles. But this will probably improve too, eventually.

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