How often do you use FSD?

[buymenow00]

I started using FSD with v11 on my previous Model Y Performance. That seems like eons ago, and the improvements have really significantly changed the experience. I'm now using FSD v13.2.5 on my Cybertruck and I would say that I'm using it on at least 80% of my drives, but for drives > 20 miles it's probably about 95% of the time. Still have some issues with HOV lane use, proper lane choice, and I wish it would set up for freeway exits before we're < 1 mile away...but otherwise I've finally reached a point where my trust level has spiked upwards and I can relax more while the car drives itself. Thinking back to v11, supervising FSD was still a bit nerve-wracking with phantom braking, construction zone death wishes, and poor speed modulation. That's all gone now and I feel that Level 4 autonomy is right around the corner! Bravo Tesla!

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[Crissa]

No one believed that. Even unsupervised wouldn't sell en masse for $100k.

While I think no one reasonable should have understood that as nothing but hyperbole...

...there's always that guy who didn't. Don't underestimate the vast supply of gullibility when talking about millions of people. Law of massive numbers means the unlikely is inevitable.

-Crissa

 

[Black306]

In speaking with a Tesla rep during a recent service center visit, I learned that FSD can be bought at any time after purchasing a Cybertruck. With an $8k price tag, it definitely adds lot to the final price of the vehicle. How often do you use FSD? 1-10, mostly never to every time you drive.

Autopilot seems to work just fine for the use case of keeping one's lane and reducing driving fatigue on the highway. Wondering what the community's thoughts were.

On a scale of 1 (mostly never) to 10 (every time you drive), 0 (didn't buy FSD for any of my Teslas and turn it off when a free trial pops up).

 

[Gritted Cybe]

On a scale of 1 (mostly never) to 10 (every time you drive), 0 (didn't buy FSD for any of my Teslas and turn it off when a free trial pops up).

The truck really is just so easy to drive..

 

[L3it3R]

Daily, most drives. I am probably 90%+ at this point.

 

[HaulingAss]

Maybe. There's some that believe FSD will be added for free to Teslas.

There are some that believe the Earth is flat.

The take rate is still really low on FSD, despite the improvements and while that will change with unsupervised (whenever that comes) there's a price point where it will price most out. That could be $10k or maybe even as high as $20k.

My point was that the current value of FSD is not what is relevant. It is about the only option you can buy on a vehicle that will appreciate greatly (because currently it still needs a human driver present).

For the foreseeable future the subscription is the best deal.

You can't see the obvious future that when FSD doesn't need supervision it will not be only $99/month?

The $99/month is priced for the current capabilities (because Tesla knows they can raise it to match the capabilities it has in the future).

The $8k for purchase includes a premium beyond what its value is in the current form (because you won't have to pay more once it's autonomous). In the short-term the subscription is the best deal (but I disagree it's the "best deal" in the forseeable future if one has a multi-year perspective on their purchase). Because the $8K purchase option is the only option that is not subject to re-pricing. And the re-pricing will not be inconsequential, it will reflect the profundity of having a vehicle that you can summon from across town, from the airport, etc. That's not going to come for a measly $8K. People who didn't buy it now will be screaming bloody murder (as if they didn't understand the situation).

 

[HaulingAss]

unless you have more money than you know what to do with, subscribe to FSD. It can be turned off for a while if you find yourself not using it as much.

If you purchase outright and the truck gets totaled, you are SOL.

Not if you insure it for replacement value.

 

[jameskk]

If you own the car for 5 years, you are paying $133 per month for FSD.

If you own it for less than that, you are paying the equivalent of a higher monthly payment.

Those crazy enough to finance FSD with the vehicles are paying even more.

Again, I've bought it previously, but it's not the best financial decision and hasn't been since launch.

That logic only works as long as the monthly subscription is $99 per month. I think it is reasonable to consider Tesla may raise the price once it reaches a higher level of autonomy, or even if it gets significantly better. I think we are already at that point, and I am not the only one. Several FSD haters that I've followed on YouTube for many years are now singing its praises.

 

[SCTesla]

You can't see the obvious future that when FSD doesn't need supervision it will not be only $99/month?

Unsupervised FSD is still at least a year away, some believe much longer than that....so paying $99 per month vs. $130+ (if someone doesn't plan to keep the vehicle for longer than 5 years, which is a large percentage of the population). Is a good financial decision.

We don't know what the future holds. If there will be FSD Supervised vs. Unsupervised and different pricing. If purchases of FSD now include Unsupervised, if HW4 will be able to achieve FSD.

It's all a gamble, but to say it's the safest financial decision to just subscribe because it's cheaper now vs. buying, especially factoring in the unknowns is like saying it is safer to invest in a 401k instead of buying Bitcoin right now...sure Bitcoin could shoot up to $1 million per coin, like people predict, but it's more of a risk and not a financially responsible.

 

[3PinkyToes]

I use it daily for my commute to work her in the Springs, only 15 miles but it chose a different route then I normally took and it has become a much better trip because of that (Union to Austin Bluffs to Oro Blanco vs Union to Academy then to work.). I literally pull out of the garage onto the street hit FSD and just chill until the parking lot at work, absolutely love it.

When I do travel on Academy It has absolutely zero issues with all the roadwork on Academy right now, even the detour that crosses into the other lanes for a stretch.

It has driven my wife and I to Denver a dozen times to see our daughter with no interventions and she lives downtown in the city. It parks in front of her house with no issues like a human.

We took it to Bailey to see some friends and it handled all the mountain roads in Deer Creek Valley with no issues, no interventions.

FSD still cannot handle drive-thrus, so I just take over and honestly prefer it that way.

Left turns across multiple lanes with a median are now no longer scary (specifically Research left onto Voyager).

Parking is still to slow for me so I generally just let FSD get us to the destination and I park if it is a large parking lot.

I drive in "Chill" personally but FSD is set to "hurry" and it feels the most human and natural. I really appreciate how it will swap lanes and overtake the "Driving Mrs. Daisy's" when needed.

I look forward to the day of "Fully Autonomous" when my wife and I can watch Netflix while Logrus drives us to Denver.

Just my $0.02.

 

[dalton108]

You don't now, right?

We don't even know if HW3 can do unsupervised (Tesla doesn't either and has stated this)...nor do we know if AI4 can.

There's still a pretty long road before unsupervised, anywhere. It could be sometime in 2026 or it could be 2030.



Why would I take Elon at his word, especially when it comes to FSD? He once said FSD prices will only rise, buy now it's the cheapest it will ever be...then dropped dramatically.

You are correct. Definitely not now.

 

[dalton108]

unless you have more money than you know what to do with, subscribe to FSD. It can be turned off for a while if you find yourself not using it as much.

If you purchase outright and the truck gets totaled, you are SOL.

Agree!

 

[dalton108]

No one believed he would sell it at that, but if he thinks it’s worth that, and gets it approved to run unsupervised , the price will go back up to at least $15k.

If Tesla would allow you to have it locked to your account, and not the vehicle, it would lock people into the Tesla “garden” this would be great for users and Tesla, especially when electric cars start making cars that can compete with Tesla.

I really don’t understand why they haven’t done that.

 

[mark555055c]

In speaking with a Tesla rep during a recent service center visit, I learned that FSD can be bought at any time after purchasing a Cybertruck. With an $8k price tag, it definitely adds lot to the final price of the vehicle. How often do you use FSD? 1-10, mostly never to every time you drive.

Autopilot seems to work just fine for the use case of keeping one's lane and reducing driving fatigue on the highway. Wondering what the community's thoughts were.

10. I engage FSD in my driveway and disengage when i get to the parking lot at my destination, and then the opposite on the way home. So, for 99.9% of my driving, FSD is engaged.

 

[Gritted Cybe]

10. I engage FSD in my driveway and disengage when i get to the parking lot at my destination, and then the opposite on the way home. So, for 99.9% of my driving, FSD is engaged.

Seems worth it!

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